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Call me boring or old school but I like my 1 point PAT, work hard for those 6 points and its nice to relax a get a easy 1 after it, but as in life all things change and I'm sure at some point the PAT will become a distant memory...Sammy
 
Al/Brad/George/Sammy:

I see both sides of it. I do think that it will change the game more than people think. It reminds me of the suggestion from a few years ago when they thought about giving field goals different points depending on distance, it sounds good in theory but not so much in practice.
 
I think getting rid of extra points is ridiculous. If you want to make the extra point less automatic, and encourage teams to go for 2 more often, how about move the line of scrimmage for kicking the extra point back to the 27 yard line (making the extra point equivalent in distance to a 45 yard field goal, certainly not a gimme) but keep the line of scrimmage if the offense remains on the field for a two point conversation where it is? It certainly makes more sense than taking kicking out of a game called "football.":rolleyes2:
 
I think getting rid of extra points is ridiculous. If you want to make the extra point less automatic, and encourage teams to go for 2 more often, how about move the line of scrimmage for kicking the extra point back to the 27 yard line (making the extra point equivalent in distance to a 45 yard field goal, certainly not a gimme) but keep the line of scrimmage if the offense remains on the field for a two point conversation where it is? It certainly makes more sense than taking kicking out of a game called "football.":rolleyes2:

Louis:

Great 'point' and idea.

Apologies for leaving you off of my initial request, I meant to include you.
 
I think it's idiotic; do away with field goal attempts and kick offs too while your at it and eliminate place kickers altogether.

How about no more punting, you have to go for it everytime, now you can eliminate punters too.

The fantasy geeks win again.

My sentiments exactly. Why are they trying to change the game every year? The league used to be run by football men. It's now run by corporate marketing people. If the media complain about something, then change the game we have to look out for our image. Look what they did to the Pro Bowl. I know the Pro Bowl was a joke but what they did to it now is ridiculous. At least it had some sense of dignity, AFC vs. NFC. Now it's a complete farce. If I was a player, I wouldn't take part in it.
 
The Commissioner was interviewed on NFL Network about this and discussed the plan I mentioned. It's going to happen and makes sense, not to mention removing possibly of injury. I think Gronkowski was hurt on a PAT. Belichek wants it and his word carries weight.
 
I've said it before, but if the NFL were interested in reducing injuries they would ban artificial turf and limit the number of regular season games to 14 again (not to mention the ridiculous number of preseason games). Instead they want to increase the number of games played for the TV money. This extra point business has little to do with injuries. Just a way to speed the game up. At the very least, they need to kick the extra points in the 4th Quarter.
 
Of course it's all about money and they're trying to maximize it. That is why they're trying to reduce the injuries. They don't want the exposure and liability that comes from litigation; the Court has rejected their settlement with the players. No, they don't have any love for the players, just the bottom line.
 
The weather guys are looking at their long range forecast and are saying that a major snow storm may be moving through here on Super Bowl weekend. If that's the case, Broncos will be toast.
 
The weather guys are looking at their long range forecast and are saying that a major snow storm may be moving through here on Super Bowl weekend. If that's the case, Broncos will be toast.

I heard there will be no tailgating at the game, parking will be extremely limited due to security reasons.

Seriously?

If the Patriots had made it, my girlfriend had four tickets lined up for myself and three of my friends, the stadium is about four hours from here, would have driven down, tailgated, seen the game and drove back.

Since they didn't make it, so much for that plan, but even if they did, so much for that plan.
 
What I had heard a couple of weeks ago is a portion of the parking lot (which is terrible to begin with) will not be available -- security, tv trucks, etc. -- and that they really want people to take mass transit. I can't imagine there would be too much 'gating if it's snowing {eek3}

If the weather holds true, this could be a big disaster and maybe the last time we see the SB in a cold site again.

Moreover, the fans who will be there, for the most part, won't be the fans of the teams. Won't be the same. Put it back to one of team sites. Small chance of that.
 
First of all, who cares if the weather is bad? Some of the greatest championships in history were played in terrible weather, like the Ice Bowl, or the Sneaker Game. Second, weather predictions now for a week from Sunday have about the same likelihood of accuracy as my prediction for the who will win the best actor Oscar 5 years from now. Based on the weather over the past 5 years, there is just as much chance of the weather being clear and between 40 and 50 degrees Super Bowl Sunday as there is it being cold and snowy, probably more, when you think of how few snow storms we have anymore, and how many 50 degree days we've had in January and February over the past 5 years. I'll worry about the weather Super Bowl Sunday on the Saturday night before it or the morning of, when I am getting ready to make a prediction on the game. I will be watching it from a nice warm fire house, or sports bar (depending on which friends I go out with), and, as most if not all of us will be watching it on TV, lets enjoy a Super Bowl favoring a bad weather team rather than a dome team for once.:rolleyes2:
 
First of all, who cares if the weather is bad? Some of the greatest championships in history were played in terrible weather, like the Ice Bowl, or the Sneaker Game. Second, weather predictions now for a week from Sunday have about the same likelihood of accuracy as my prediction for the who will win the best actor Oscar 5 years from now. Based on the weather over the past 5 years, there is just as much chance of the weather being clear and between 40 and 50 degrees Super Bowl Sunday as there is it being cold and snowy, probably more, when you think of how few snow storms we have anymore, and how many 50 degree days we've had in January and February over the past 5 years. I'll worry about the weather Super Bowl Sunday on the Saturday night before it or the morning of, when I am getting ready to make a prediction on the game. I will be watching it from a nice warm fire house, or sports bar (depending on which friends I go out with), and, as most if not all of us will be watching it on TV, lets enjoy a Super Bowl favoring a bad weather team rather than a dome team for once.:rolleyes2:

That may be all fine and good but the Super Bowl is basically a corporate event where they just happen to play a game. The Ice Bowl was not the championship game, as a point of clarification (other than for the NFL). Whether we like it or not, those days insofar as the SB is concerned are long gone.

Unfortunately, the NFL takes a long range view and doesn't do short term planning. Apparently, there is already talk of moving the game, as mind boggling as that may seem to be.

As far as the likelihood of it being 40 or 50, weather forecasting is a bit more accurate than that and the likelihood of bad weather is greater than not.
 
I am not a fan of the game being played in horrible weather, but I am also not a fan of moving the date.

They should just play the game and get it over with.
 
A history of NFL championship games played in the NY area, http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/26/s...a-history-with-the-super-bowl.html?ref=sports

A couple of interesting facts of which I was not aware: the Redskins played in Boston before moving to D.C., and in 1944 Al Blozis, a star tackle with the Giants, who was a Lieutenant in the Army, was allowed to play in the championship game, won by the Packers; a few weeks later he was killed in action.

Brad
 
A history of NFL championship games played in the NY area, http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/26/s...a-history-with-the-super-bowl.html?ref=sports

A couple of interesting facts of which I was not aware: the Redskins played in Boston before moving to D.C., and in 1944 Al Blozis, a star tackle with the Giants, who was a Lieutenant in the Army, was allowed to play in the championship game, won by the Packers; a few weeks later he was killed in action.

Brad

I was at two of those championship games (1987 and 2001), and shared a federal clerkship with a gentleman who clerked for Judge Canella, who played for the Giants in the Sneaker Game.

In addition to Al Blozis, the Giants had a rookie end, Jack Lummas, who played in the Championship Game in 1942 against the Bears, then was awarded the Medal of Honor when he was mortally wounded in action on Iwo Jima on March 8, 1945. While already wounded, he attacked and took three enemy strongholds before stepping on a land mine. He famously told the doctor at the aid station, Thomas M. Brown, "Well, doc, the New York Giants lost a mighty good end today." To me, he is the greatest Giant ever.
 
First of all, who cares if the weather is bad? Some of the greatest championships in history were played in terrible weather, like the Ice Bowl, or the Sneaker Game. Second, weather predictions now for a week from Sunday have about the same likelihood of accuracy as my prediction for the who will win the best actor Oscar 5 years from now. Based on the weather over the past 5 years, there is just as much chance of the weather being clear and between 40 and 50 degrees Super Bowl Sunday as there is it being cold and snowy, probably more, when you think of how few snow storms we have anymore, and how many 50 degree days we've had in January and February over the past 5 years. I'll worry about the weather Super Bowl Sunday on the Saturday night before it or the morning of, when I am getting ready to make a prediction on the game. I will be watching it from a nice warm fire house, or sports bar (depending on which friends I go out with), and, as most if not all of us will be watching it on TV, lets enjoy a Super Bowl favoring a bad weather team rather than a dome team for once.:rolleyes2:
I'm all in with Louis, I hope it's cold and snowing during the game, nothing more fun then watching a snow bowl for a change, the Lions/Eagles game this past year was hilarious to watch in a blowing snow storm and being I could care less who wins the weather doesn't make any difference to me, bring on the snow storm!!!!!!!!!...Sammy
 
It is my opinion that Sammy and Louis are showing a remarkable insensitivity towards all the sponsors and especially the poor rich folks who shell out huge amounts of money to attend their one football game of the year. These true fans certainly deserve warm, dry weather in order to enjoy their party experience and the game, in case they happen to glance at the field. The NFL throws this huge celebration precisely so that all these poor rich people can spend their money to enjoy the real NFL experience. Bad weather will simply spoil the whole day. Jeesh! -- Al
 

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