NFL Season 2016-17 (2 Viewers)

Rodgers has been one of the hotest quarterbacks lately and it showed today. He hit Jordy Nelson on what can best be described as a desperation heave that set up the winning FG. They couldn't have had a better Sunday as both Lions and Vikings lost. They've gotten hot at the right time.

My son says I've turned into a fake Packers and Bears fan. There's something about the old NFL Central.

A friend of mine, who is a fellow Jets fan, made a pilgrimage to Lambeau a few years ago and says it was an incredible experience. I've tried talking my son into it but no soap. I may just have to do it myself.

Yesterday was perfect NFL Central football weather, -5 below. Would have been to be there but glad I was able to watch it on TV.
 
...As to the Ravens yesterday, I don't know what else to say other than a game of horseshoes anyone? You may need to retrieve the lucky shoe from the Ravens. They had the game in hand and I truly believe had Philly kicked the extra point and put it in OT, they had momentum. Unbelievable finish.

TD

Amen to that, Tom! I don't know why Pederson went for 2. I think they were 4 for 5 in 2-point conversion attempts, including a successful conversion earlier in the game. But it made no sense in that context, less than half a minute, with the chance of an extra quarter to play.

Wentz' interception didn't help, either. Take away that play, and you take a touchdown back from Baltimore.

The Iggles are just not good enough this season. The best we fans can hope for, for the rest of the season, is that they play some role as spoilers, but even that's a stretch. The Philly Fan looks ahead to next season.....
 
Cross "not being able to win in Denver" off the list for now, total domination from start to finish, specifically on defense, they surrendered a measly 3 points and forced three turnovers on the way to a division clinching 16-3 win.

The defense is peaking at the right time.........................win the last two games and lock down the #1 seed and go from there.

That's 8 strait AFC East titles; they Dolphins, Jets and Bills may be the march of the tomato cans, but the Patriots are the first team in NFL history to win their division 8 strait times.

And isn't it true that in that match-up, the home team had won the previous 7 games? Kind of an interesting stat, but also interesting to note that streaks end eventually, too.
 
I just saw that the point spread on next week's Patriots Jets game is the biggest the point spread has been in three years, 16.5 points.

Another game I'm interested in has the Redskins -3.5 against the Bears. Bears have covered the last five games. I actually they can beat the Skins. The Bears have faced some tough competition lately and have been very competitive. With a little luck they could have beaten GB yesterday. Barkley, who has been impressive at times, had 3 picks yesterday and a fumble, but Bears still had a chance at the end.

Vikings at Packers: Packers, -7.

Giants at Eagles: Giants, -3. I think Eagles can win this, considering the rivalry.

Ravens at Steeler: Steelers, -4.5.

Lions at Cowboys: Cowboys, -7.

Lastly, 49ers at Rams: Rams, -3. I think SF has a chance but my son is convinced they're going 1-15.
 
Stafford and Tate may put up 400 yards against Dallas next week...they can't stop any decent QB's passing game...Dallas will not cover -7 against them any more than they could cover the 7 point spread against TB...it will be a shoot out...high scoring game...
 
You may be right Mike but I think Dallas will still beat them.
 
Thursday night the Giants have to travel to Philadelphia to play the Eagles, a division rival. In a game between the Giants and Eagles, you can throw their records coming in out the window. Since the 80's, the Giants and Eagles have beaten the snot out of each other, even in years where one wins the Super Bowl, and the other misses the playoffs. For example, in 1990, the 10-0 Giants, on the way to their second Super Bowl title, lost a heart breaker to the Eagles in Philly, when excellent outside linebacker Carl Banks squarely hit the legs of Eagles QB Randall Cunningham, who was knocked into the air, but landed somehow on his feet, and proceeded to throw the game winning touchdown pass. More recently, the Giants blew an enormous 4th Quarter lead to the Eagles, whose punt returner returned a last second punt for a touchdown after initially muffing the punt, knocking the Giants out of the playoffs. To me, this game poses a huge challenge to the Giants, despite the fact that the Eagles are now eliminated from playoff contention. Even if the "good Giants" of Sunday's victory over the Lions (running the ball for over 100 yards, throwing for over 200 yards, 2 TD passes, no turnovers) show up, this will be a hard fought game that the Giants could easily lose. If the "bad Giants" of the Steelers loss show up and turn the ball over multiple times, the Eagles could blow the Giants out. While I am confident I will get a good effort from the defense, I still don't know what to expect from the Giants offense. If the Giants manage to pull this game out, they clinch a playoff berth, but I am more concerned with how they play. Their offense, and particularly Eli, need to play smart, effective football if they have any chance of being a legitimate contender in the playoffs. At this point, that is a hope, not an expectation.
 
Michael and John,

Not only are the Giants going to lose next Sunday, I doubt the Giants will win another game this season. The poor effort against the Steelers showed me this team is fatally flawed, and their schedule down the stretch is brutal.

What happened to the fan who predicted this? ^&grin
 
Louis...

you're right not to underestimate Philly...I don't want to play a meaningful game there either...they are way better than their record in my opinion...they play in the toughest division...the East...don't let their record fool you...they have had a very tough schedule...before this season ends...they will play both the Cowboys and your Giants twice this year...hosting us both in the last 2 weeks...

they also played Washington twice...Pittsburgh...Seattle...Minnesota...Detroit...Atlanta...Green Bay...Baltimore and Cincinnati...got to be one of the toughest schedules on the board this year...

Philly is 4-2 at home this year...1-7 on the road...at home they beat some notable teams...Steelers...Vikings and Falcons...

I think the Giants are more comfortable in possible inclement weather than the Cowboys...so I'm not looking forward to traveling there in week 17 for a game that might be very important...I hope Dallas will somehow manage to take care of Detroit this week and wrap up their division and home field advantage throughout...

Carson Wentz has a strong arm...they can put numbers up...and with nothing to lose...would expect them to play wide open with a lot of 4th down territory plays...they have no chance for the playoffs...and would probably love to put a hurting on their division rivals...playing the Giants and the Cowboys might be their Superbowl...

again...I would rather sneak a win over Detroit this week...so it doesn't matter when we go to Philly and then lose and be like Dennis Green saying..."they are who we thought they were"...^&grin...
 
while I despise showboating...from anybody...including the Cowboys Elliott's "feed me" gesture or the Cowboys Michael Irvin's "first down" gestures...not to mention TO's choreographed end zone antics...this one while still annoying...is somehow getting a feel good story attached to it...still don't like it as it cost me a 15 yard penalty...but................................:rolleyes2:

Ezekiel Elliott's jump into red kettle benefits Salvation Army

Dallas Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott's jump into the big Salvation Army red kettle after scoring a touchdown in Sunday night's game versus the Tampa Bay Buccaneers seems to be paying dividends for the charity.

In the roughly 12 1/2 hours after Elliott's jump, until 10:30 a.m. ET on Monday morning, the Salvation Army took in $182,000 in online donations, said Lt. Col. Ron Busroe.

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Jerry: Salvation Army should give Elliott an award
Cowboys owner Jerry Jones was fine with Ezekiel Elliott's post-touchdown hop into a Salvation Army kettle, saying the charitable organization should give the rookie rusher an award.
Busroe said that was a 61 percent increase over a similar time period from Sunday night into Monday last week.

The publicity surrounding the jump into the oversized kettle was worth at least $4 million in equivalent advertising exposure, said Eric Smallwood, president of sponsorship evaluation firm Apex Marketing Group.

"Let's give Zeke credit for that. It is certainly fun," Cowboys owner, president and general manager Jerry Jones said on Monday. "We have those kettles there because we do want the visibility of reminding everybody, certainly at this time of year, how doing the most good is putting a dollar in that red kettle. To have gotten that attention in front of probably 20 million or so people last night for the Salvation Army was just wonderful."

The online donations were a welcome surprise for the Salvation Army; Busroe said through last week that red kettle donations were down 16 percent compared with last year, when donations totaled a record $150 million. Approximately 6 percent of the Salvation Army's red kettle holiday campaign donations come online.

Frigid temperatures in some cities are expected to have an impact on donations in the final days of the year.

"We needed this boost," Busroe said.
 
What happened to the fan who predicted this? ^&grin

His defense won him two games against division leading teams, while his offense managed to not blow these games with turnovers.{sm4} But the Giants could still lose out and miss the playoffs, neither the Eagles nor the Redskins on the road are easy games.
 
while I despise showboating...from anybody...including the Cowboys Elliott's "feed me" gesture or the Cowboys Michael Irvin's "first down" gestures...not to mention TO's choreographed end zone antics...this one while still annoying...is somehow getting a feel good story attached to it...still don't like it as it cost me a 15 yard penalty...but................................:rolleyes2:

Ezekiel Elliott's jump into red kettle benefits Salvation Army

Dallas Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott's jump into the big Salvation Army red kettle after scoring a touchdown in Sunday night's game versus the Tampa Bay Buccaneers seems to be paying dividends for the charity.

In the roughly 12 1/2 hours after Elliott's jump, until 10:30 a.m. ET on Monday morning, the Salvation Army took in $182,000 in online donations, said Lt. Col. Ron Busroe.

EDITOR'S PICKS

Jerry: Salvation Army should give Elliott an award
Cowboys owner Jerry Jones was fine with Ezekiel Elliott's post-touchdown hop into a Salvation Army kettle, saying the charitable organization should give the rookie rusher an award.
Busroe said that was a 61 percent increase over a similar time period from Sunday night into Monday last week.

The publicity surrounding the jump into the oversized kettle was worth at least $4 million in equivalent advertising exposure, said Eric Smallwood, president of sponsorship evaluation firm Apex Marketing Group.

"Let's give Zeke credit for that. It is certainly fun," Cowboys owner, president and general manager Jerry Jones said on Monday. "We have those kettles there because we do want the visibility of reminding everybody, certainly at this time of year, how doing the most good is putting a dollar in that red kettle. To have gotten that attention in front of probably 20 million or so people last night for the Salvation Army was just wonderful."

The online donations were a welcome surprise for the Salvation Army; Busroe said through last week that red kettle donations were down 16 percent compared with last year, when donations totaled a record $150 million. Approximately 6 percent of the Salvation Army's red kettle holiday campaign donations come online.

Frigid temperatures in some cities are expected to have an impact on donations in the final days of the year.

"We needed this boost," Busroe said.

Perhaps the best part of this is the NFL's official website having this is a lead story, under the caption "Ezekiel Elliott's jump into Salvation Army Kettle lands him in the celebration hall of fame." If you are so upset with this conduct, why celebrate it on your website? The NFL did the same thing with the big hits on receivers: fining the defensive players while selling DVD's of their hits on this very same website. The NFL brass are a bunch of hypocrites. Get rid of the excessive celebration penalty, and let players police themselves.
 
His defense won him two games against division leading teams, while his offense managed to not blow these games with turnovers.{sm4} But the Giants could still lose out and miss the playoffs, neither the Eagles nor the Redskins on the road are easy games.

Mr. Optimism!
 
Thursday night the Giants have to travel to Philadelphia to play the Eagles, a division rival. In a game between the Giants and Eagles, you can throw their records coming in out the window. Since the 80's, the Giants and Eagles have beaten the snot out of each other, even in years where one wins the Super Bowl, and the other misses the playoffs. For example, in 1990, the 10-0 Giants, on the way to their second Super Bowl title, lost a heart breaker to the Eagles in Philly, when excellent outside linebacker Carl Banks squarely hit the legs of Eagles QB Randall Cunningham, who was knocked into the air, but landed somehow on his feet, and proceeded to throw the game winning touchdown pass. More recently, the Giants blew an enormous 4th Quarter lead to the Eagles, whose punt returner returned a last second punt for a touchdown after initially muffing the punt, knocking the Giants out of the playoffs. To me, this game poses a huge challenge to the Giants, despite the fact that the Eagles are now eliminated from playoff contention. Even if the "good Giants" of Sunday's victory over the Lions (running the ball for over 100 yards, throwing for over 200 yards, 2 TD passes, no turnovers) show up, this will be a hard fought game that the Giants could easily lose. If the "bad Giants" of the Steelers loss show up and turn the ball over multiple times, the Eagles could blow the Giants out. While I am confident I will get a good effort from the defense, I still don't know what to expect from the Giants offense. If the Giants manage to pull this game out, they clinch a playoff berth, but I am more concerned with how they play. Their offense, and particularly Eli, need to play smart, effective football if they have any chance of being a legitimate contender in the playoffs. At this point, that is a hope, not an expectation.

Louis...

you're right not to underestimate Philly...I don't want to play a meaningful game there either...they are way better than their record in my opinion...they play in the toughest division...the East...don't let their record fool you...they have had a very tough schedule...before this season ends...they will play both the Cowboys and your Giants twice this year...hosting us both in the last 2 weeks...

they also played Washington twice...Pittsburgh...Seattle...Minnesota...Detroit...Atlanta...Green Bay...Baltimore and Cincinnati...got to be one of the toughest schedules on the board this year...

Philly is 4-2 at home this year...1-7 on the road...at home they beat some notable teams...Steelers...Vikings and Falcons...

I think the Giants are more comfortable in possible inclement weather than the Cowboys...so I'm not looking forward to traveling there in week 17 for a game that might be very important...I hope Dallas will somehow manage to take care of Detroit this week and wrap up their division and home field advantage throughout...

Carson Wentz has a strong arm...they can put numbers up...and with nothing to lose...would expect them to play wide open with a lot of 4th down territory plays...they have no chance for the playoffs...and would probably love to put a hurting on their division rivals...playing the Giants and the Cowboys might be their Superbowl...

again...I would rather sneak a win over Detroit this week...so it doesn't matter when we go to Philly and then lose and be like Dennis Green saying..."they are who we thought they were"...^&grin...

It should be an exciting game, but I'm realistic about Wentz. He's thrown too many interceptions since the first four games of the season. He's going to be very good as he gains experience, but I'm not looking for any brilliance in the last two games.

On the other hand, as Louis said, throw the records out the window. The Eagles, Giants and Cowboys always play each other hard, in huge rivalries. And with the Giants, it's also a case of the Philly-NY rivalry, which we also see in baseball. It's like a dogfight. And I'm glad the schedule worked out the way it did, because it means there will be an exciting football game on New Year's Day again.

Prost!
Brad
 
Mr. Optimism!

I'm optimistic about the Giants defense, they are 1st in the league in red zone defense, 3rd in the league in scoring defense, 5th in the league in rush defense, and only 3 off the league lead in interceptions and 9 off the league lead in sacks, despite the offense being 31st in the league in time of possession.:wink2:

The offense, not so much . . . {eek3}
 
while I despise showboating...from anybody...including the Cowboys Elliott's "feed me" gesture or the Cowboys Michael Irvin's "first down" gestures...not to mention TO's choreographed end zone antics...this one while still annoying...is somehow getting a feel good story attached to it...still don't like it as it cost me a 15 yard penalty...but................................:rolleyes2:

Ezekiel Elliott's jump into red kettle benefits Salvation Army

Dallas Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott's jump into the big Salvation Army red kettle after scoring a touchdown in Sunday night's game versus the Tampa Bay Buccaneers seems to be paying dividends for the charity.

In the roughly 12 1/2 hours after Elliott's jump, until 10:30 a.m. ET on Monday morning, the Salvation Army took in $182,000 in online donations, said Lt. Col. Ron Busroe.

EDITOR'S PICKS

Jerry: Salvation Army should give Elliott an award
Cowboys owner Jerry Jones was fine with Ezekiel Elliott's post-touchdown hop into a Salvation Army kettle, saying the charitable organization should give the rookie rusher an award.
Busroe said that was a 61 percent increase over a similar time period from Sunday night into Monday last week.

The publicity surrounding the jump into the oversized kettle was worth at least $4 million in equivalent advertising exposure, said Eric Smallwood, president of sponsorship evaluation firm Apex Marketing Group.

"Let's give Zeke credit for that. It is certainly fun," Cowboys owner, president and general manager Jerry Jones said on Monday. "We have those kettles there because we do want the visibility of reminding everybody, certainly at this time of year, how doing the most good is putting a dollar in that red kettle. To have gotten that attention in front of probably 20 million or so people last night for the Salvation Army was just wonderful."

The online donations were a welcome surprise for the Salvation Army; Busroe said through last week that red kettle donations were down 16 percent compared with last year, when donations totaled a record $150 million. Approximately 6 percent of the Salvation Army's red kettle holiday campaign donations come online.

Frigid temperatures in some cities are expected to have an impact on donations in the final days of the year.

"We needed this boost," Busroe said.

What Elliot did was not what I call an "excessive celebration", he didn't show up the other team, he didn't cause a delay in the game and he did not draw attention to himself. On the contrary, he drew attention to a very worthy cause. Good for him.
 
What Elliot did was not what I call an "excessive celebration", he didn't show up the other team, he didn't cause a delay in the game and he did not draw attention to himself. On the contrary, he drew attention to a very worthy cause. Good for him.

I don't know Jason...I despise this stuff...don't mind somebody getting excited...but jumping into a pot...for real...I don't get it...

everything you say he didn't do...I feel he did...

first off...the refs did call it a foul...they penalized him 15 yards...and he got a $12,000+ fine...

which I think is fine...he deserved it...the shame is...his personal agenda costs the team 15 yards...it's just stupid to me...stupid and selfish...

so anyway...define excessive?

is spiking the ball over the goal post excessive?

Tony Gonzales got a million fines for that...he once said..."that's the price the team pays when I score"...pretty selfish...not worried about the team the way I see it...

is a celbration dance that takes half as much time as Elliott's skit excessive?

I thought the rule was "no props and no choreographed celebration"...

Elliot already had told Dak he would do it if he scored...that was all planned before the game started....

I wonder what Garrett would have said if Elliott told him he was gonna do this and cost the 15 yards?

he definitely caused a delay as he took the ball with him as he jumped in the pot...can't play without that ball...

the act in itself...I would think kind of showed up Tampa Bay...and definitely drew attention to himself...

I have seen dozens of times where that penalty gave the opposing team really good field position...just don't see how it helps the team...

the only thing that overshadows the stupidity of it...is the free publicity and extra money the Salvation Army made out of it...
 
Gents,

If your not 100% then go sit down. I don't like the kid, but if Cam Newton is hurt then go sit down and take a break. His arm is his lively hood and he has been squinting and jeering the whole darn game. GO SIT DOWN!

John from Texas
 
I don't know Jason...I despise this stuff...don't mind somebody getting excited...but jumping into a pot...for real...I don't get it...

everything you say he didn't do...I feel he did...

first off...the refs did call it a foul...they penalized him 15 yards...and he got a $12,000+ fine...

which I think is fine...he deserved it...the shame is...his personal agenda costs the team 15 yards...it's just stupid to me...stupid and selfish...

so anyway...define excessive?

is spiking the ball over the goal post excessive?

Tony Gonzales got a million fines for that...he once said..."that's the price the team pays when I score"...pretty selfish...not worried about the team the way I see it...

is a celbration dance that takes half as much time as Elliott's skit excessive?

I thought the rule was "no props and no choreographed celebration"...

Elliot already had told Dak he would do it if he scored...that was all planned before the game started....

I wonder what Garrett would have said if Elliott told him he was gonna do this and cost the 15 yards?

he definitely caused a delay as he took the ball with him as he jumped in the pot...can't play without that ball...

the act in itself...I would think kind of showed up Tampa Bay...and definitely drew attention to himself...

I have seen dozens of times where that penalty gave the opposing team really good field position...just don't see how it helps the team...

the only thing that overshadows the stupidity of it...is the free publicity and extra money the Salvation Army made out of it...

Mike:

I thought he was not fined? Last night he pledged $12,000 to the salvation army, but since he was not fined he increased that donation to $21,000 today.

I guess it is different to me because something good came from it.

-Jason
 

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