NFL Season 2016-17 (2 Viewers)

[jazzeum]

The good ole days of the AFL when being a fan meant you were cool and the NFL was boring establishment.

 

[lancer]

The good ole days of the AFL when being a fan meant you were cool and the NFL was boring establishment.

Hadl to Alworth! ^&grin -- Al

 

[jazzeum]

When I think of the old days, Darryl Lamonica comes to mind and of course Joe Willie.

 

[hotel3alpha]

Louis,

I don't know what I was watching on Sunday cause that was not the Dallas I knew this season and certainly not the Giants defense I have seen this year. Oh, the bitter cold and that field goal attempt that hit the cross bar? Good Lawd.

Good Game though!

John from Texas

 

[Louis Badolato]

Louis,

I don't know what I was watching on Sunday cause that was not the Dallas I knew this season and certainly not the Giants defense I have seen this year. Oh, the bitter cold and that field goal attempt that hit the cross bar? Good Lawd.

Good Game though!

John from Texas

John,

The Giants defense has been getting better each game this year, so them playing lights out on a cold, windy frozen field against a dome team doesn't surprise me. You also can't expect a place kicker to kick a rock hard ball 55 yards into swirling winds at the meadowlands, no matter how good he has been. The big surprise to me was the Giants winning despite 3 turnovers from Eli (who had his worst game of the season, and should have been picked off 2-3 more times), Flowers being exposed as the worst left tackle in the league (I lost count of how many times Eli was hit) and OBJ dropping two sure 1st and goals, while Victor Cruz and Will Tye each also dropped balls on 3rd down that would have been 1st downs and extended drives. Not to mention Jennings typical lackluster performance at tailback. There was one play that typified Jennings' entire season: Eli escaped the rush, stepped up into the middle of the pocket and found Jennings 3 yards from a first down, with only Lee, a very good line backer between him and the first down. Any tailback worth his salt finds his way to get those 3 yards and extend the drive. If it's your rookie Ezekiel Elliott, he jukes Lee and is still running. Jennings hesitates, fails to either juke or put his head down, and is stopped 2 yards short. That an offense this flawed managed to put enough points on the board to beat a team as good as your Cowboys was the big surprise for me!

 

[Warrior]

The Patriots survive another rock fight with the Ravens 30-23. Up 23-3, they had a couple of boneheaded turnovers, the Ravens scored twice in less than two minutes, but the Patriots scored late to ice the game and speaking of ice, it was freezing down there last night, but still a good time.

Brady threw a PIC in the end zone on an idiotic pass when he should have just thrown the ball away.

My favorite ref did another stellar job butchering several calls, including a clear fumble by Flacco early where he blew the play dead and said the QB's forward progress had been stopped prior to the fumble; WHAT!? There is no such thing as forward progress for a QB in the pocket, that's for a RB, WR or TE who's MOVING FORWARD with the ball, not a QB who's STANDING in the pocket.

What a moron.

For the most part, bad Flacco showed up last night; I want no part of this team in the playoffs on the chance that good Flacco shows up.

No thanks to that.

 

[Louis Badolato]

As far as that spectacular defensive effort last night; all the Giants have to do is play warm weather teams at home, at night, in January, in sub zero temperatures on a frozen field that feels more like the parking lot at the stadium than the actual field itself and you'll be in business to stay on track for that world famous "Get on a roll at the tail end of the season and ride it to another Super Bowl win" that the Giants have perfected every 4 to 5 years.......................

That's what good cold weather defenses do . . . like a Patriots defense in the tuck rule game against Oakland, or a Patriots defense against the San Diego Chargers in that AFC Championship game when both LT and Phillip Rivers were hurt, or just about every Patriots home game against Miami over the past 15 years . . . :wink2:

 

[Combat]

Maybe Fisher should just retire. He is still 7 or 8 games over .500 for his career. He should just go out a winner. If he's hired to rebuild another team, it won't take long for him to be a career sub-.500 coach. -- Al

Sound advice but these guys never know when to quit. They are riding the gravy train and have enoromous egos. He might collect his paycheck from the Rams for a while but he will eventually be back coaching either in the NFL or some major college program. I read Belichick could lose 96 straight games over the next six seasons and still have a higher winning percentage than Fisher.

 

[tdubel]

The Patriots survive another rock fight with the Ravens 30-23. Up 23-3, they had a couple of boneheaded turnovers, the Ravens scored twice in less than two minutes, but the Patriots scored late to ice the game and speaking of ice, it was freezing down there last night, but still a good time.

Brady threw a PIC in the end zone on an idiotic pass when he should have just thrown the ball away.

My favorite ref did another stellar job butchering several calls, including a clear fumble by Flacco early where he blew the play dead and said the QB's forward progress had been stopped prior to the fumble; WHAT!? There is no such thing as forward progress for a QB in the pocket, that's for a RB, WR or TE who's MOVING FORWARD with the ball, not a QB who's STANDING in the pocket.

What a moron.

For the most part, bad Flacco showed up last night; I want no part of this team in the playoffs on the chance that good Flacco shows up.

No thanks to that.

George, glad you enjoyed the game! As a Steelers fan, thank you, I just hope we win out and we will both be done with the Ravens! I have become the biggest Eagle fan this week......................... In all seriousness, and being quite honest and not biased, following observations:

1. The forward progress call was complete crap and was a terrible call. It was clearly a fumble as he was losing control in mid tackle. Not even close on replay in my opinion.

2. Brady - BONEHEAD is not the right word for his one mistake of a pass into the endzone. It was a gift and he should no better, it was a rare "panic' mistake by Brady.

3. Cyrus Jones should never be allowed to be near a punt EVER again. Off his foot, then he has a chance to fall on it and does not. Honestly on tv, it looks like he threw the play on purpose for the conspiracy theorists out there, NOBODY is that stupid. Watch the replay. The second consecutive fumble was a great hit by the Ravens on Flater.

4. Brady picked apart the defense all night, the score was only close due to the 3 inopportune turnovers. That said, the Ravens still were in it due to those.

5. Flacco missed a lot of open receivers all night, however, it should be noted, a majority were short passes and would not have gone far. It seemed he checked down on most plays, the Patriots D really screwed him up with the multiple looks, he was throwing "blitz" type short passes when there were no blitzes, therefore they became less than 5 yard gains and most often 2 yards.

Now for me, the Steelers control their destiny, if we win out, end of story. Would love to get another shot at the Pats in the playoffs, it would be a fun one to watch!

Tom

 

[Panzer ace]

These days the NFL is all about match-ups and I think we saw that in the last two games from week 13. The Giants personnel and playing style is tailor made to play against the Cowboys and the same is true of Ravens when they play the Patriots.

 

[sammy719]

The Patriots survive another rock fight with the Ravens 30-23. Up 23-3, they had a couple of boneheaded turnovers, the Ravens scored twice in less than two minutes, but the Patriots scored late to ice the game and speaking of ice, it was freezing down there last night, but still a good time.

Brady threw a PIC in the end zone on an idiotic pass when he should have just thrown the ball away.

My favorite ref did another stellar job butchering several calls, including a clear fumble by Flacco early where he blew the play dead and said the QB's forward progress had been stopped prior to the fumble; WHAT!? There is no such thing as forward progress for a QB in the pocket, that's for a RB, WR or TE who's MOVING FORWARD with the ball, not a QB who's STANDING in the pocket.

What a moron.

For the most part, bad Flacco showed up last night; I want no part of this team in the playoffs on the chance that good Flacco shows up.

No thanks to that.

Good game George, as always it seems the Ravens/Pats is a nail biter to the very end, I believe the rivalry is one of the better non-division rivalries in the NFL today.

Hate to admit it but the Ravens just don't have the talent enough to get over the top this year vs. the really good teams, they have a great young talented defense and a solid young offense overall that will help them build on better seasons in the near future but that doesn't help the 2106 team.

That being said, if they can win out (Philly, Pitt, Cinncy) they can win the North which is a tall order to say the least, and worst of it I have to pull for Cinncy this week to beat Pitt, I dislike Pitt but it's more of a respect type of dislike, but as far as the Bengals go I just have taking a much more personal dislike to that team over the last 3-4 years, so I guess I won't hang up my Raven hat just yet and see how it plays out, as we all know if a team can get to the dance then anything can happen, it becomes a 3 game season for wildcards and 2 games for the Division leaders, let's go Ravens!!!!

 

[Warrior]

That's what good cold weather defenses do . . . like a Patriots defense in the tuck rule game against Oakland, or a Patriots defense against the San Diego Chargers in that AFC Championship game when both LT and Phillip Rivers were hurt, or just about every Patriots home game against Miami over the past 15 years . . . :wink2:

This post is all kinds of awesome.

Have to give you credit; you can break balls with the best of them.

Yeah, they were lucky in the tuck rule game............(gee, first time someone has implied that)...........they were 18-0 going into that Chargers game, Lance Allworth, Dan Fouts, Kellen Winslow and Charlie Joiner wouldn't have mattered in that game.....................I guess you don't remember the Patriots teams from 1960 through 1985 never winning in Miami.

 

[Warrior]

George, glad you enjoyed the game! As a Steelers fan, thank you, I just hope we win out and we will both be done with the Ravens! I have become the biggest Eagle fan this week......................... In all seriousness, and being quite honest and not biased, following observations:

1. The forward progress call was complete crap and was a terrible call. It was clearly a fumble as he was losing control in mid tackle. Not even close on replay in my opinion.

2. Brady - BONEHEAD is not the right word for his one mistake of a pass into the endzone. It was a gift and he should no better, it was a rare "panic' mistake by Brady.

3. Cyrus Jones should never be allowed to be near a punt EVER again. Off his foot, then he has a chance to fall on it and does not. Honestly on tv, it looks like he threw the play on purpose for the conspiracy theorists out there, NOBODY is that stupid. Watch the replay. The second consecutive fumble was a great hit by the Ravens on Flater.

4. Brady picked apart the defense all night, the score was only close due to the 3 inopportune turnovers. That said, the Ravens still were in it due to those.

5. Flacco missed a lot of open receivers all night, however, it should be noted, a majority were short passes and would not have gone far. It seemed he checked down on most plays, the Patriots D really screwed him up with the multiple looks, he was throwing "blitz" type short passes when there were no blitzes, therefore they became less than 5 yard gains and most often 2 yards.

Now for me, the Steelers control their destiny, if we win out, end of story. Would love to get another shot at the Pats in the playoffs, it would be a fun one to watch!

Tom

All your points are spot on as usual.

Cyrus Jones; thanks to him, Amendola was forced back there to field punts and he ends up with a high ankle sprain.

The Patriots defense the past two games has featured an attacking style defense instead of that moronic bend but don't break soft rush 3/drop 8 into coverage in zones crap.

They were rushing 4 almost all night last night, several times both defensive ends dropped back into coverage and the inside linebackers rushed Flacco and put pressure on him up the middle.

And the man who loves the sound of his own voice butchered several other calls vs the Ravens, one in Flacco for illegal shift? He moved MAYBE slightly forward, but he called a penalty anyway, several holding calls on the Ravens were crap.

I hate, hate, hate when the refs screw up like that..............

 

[Warrior]

Have to give you credit; you can break balls with the best of them.

Oh and also Louis FWIW; ask anyone and they'll tell you I'm up for a good old fashioned ballbusting back and forth, but your timing is off here as I got back awhile ago from my Uncles wake, the funeral is tomorrow.

My Mom took it really hard, not an easy day for me so again, timing is everything with these things.........................

 

[tdubel]

Oh and also Louis FWIW; ask anyone and they'll tell you I'm up for a good old fashioned ballbusting back and forth, but your timing is off here as I got back awhile ago from my Uncles wake, the funeral is tomorrow.

My Mom took it really hard, not an easy day for me so again, timing is everything with these things.........................

George sorry to hear my friend, never an easy time, glad you got to enjoy the game, good luck tomorrow

TD

 

[Panzer ace]

Oh and also Louis FWIW; ask anyone and they'll tell you I'm up for a good old fashioned ballbusting back and forth, but your timing is off here as I got back awhile ago from my Uncles wake, the funeral is tomorrow.

My Mom took it really hard, not an easy day for me so again, timing is everything with these things.........................

George:

All toy soldier and sports banter aside, trust that we are keeping a good thought for you and your family as you deal with the loss of your uncle.

Best,
Jason

 

[Warrior]

George sorry to hear my friend, never an easy time, glad you got to enjoy the game, good luck tomorrow

TD

Thanks Tom, never an easy thing, especially around the holidays..............the game was fun, took my mind off of things for a few hours............

 

[Warrior]

George:

All toy soldier and sports banter aside, trust that we are keeping a good thought for you and your family as you deal with the loss of your uncle.

Best,
Jason

Thanks, I appreciate it. Like I said, we can bust each others chops in good fun, most of the time it's not an issue.......................sometimes things go sideways...................

 

[Louis Badolato]

Oh and also Louis FWIW; ask anyone and they'll tell you I'm up for a good old fashioned ballbusting back and forth, but your timing is off here as I got back awhile ago from my Uncles wake, the funeral is tomorrow.

My Mom took it really hard, not an easy day for me so again, timing is everything with these things.........................

I'm sorry George. I wasn't thinking about the passing of your Uncle. Again my condolences.

 

[sammy719]

Best part of the forum, I believe we like to bust balls, dish it out, but in the end it's a solid group of good guys here,.... George sorry to hear of your relative's passing, as I stated last week he sounds like a great man who lived a interesting life, may he rest in Peace.