NFL Season 2016-17 (2 Viewers)

Warrior said:
"We're on to week five!".................

Brady has decided enough is enough, he's done and will serve the suspension.

Also, while suspended for those four weeks, he cannot under NFL rules have any contact with the team; no practices, no viewing of games at any stadium, he cannot enter the football facility period until game 4 is over.

So, when do does come back, he'll have 6 days to get ready and in synch with the team for game 5.

I predict 2-3 after game 5, the season officially over before it has begun.

The NFL has won, congratulations, superb job.

Ok, I'm in the middle of a show down here in VA, so back to work.................we see ya'll after game 4...........................
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I heard about that today, I believe the Pats will be ok, at worst 2-2 but being they play 3 out of 4 at home they could go 3-1 just as well.
 
Warrior said:
"We're on to week five!".................

Brady has decided enough is enough, he's done and will serve the suspension.

Also, while suspended for those four weeks, he cannot under NFL rules have any contact with the team; no practices, no viewing of games at any stadium, he cannot enter the football facility period until game 4 is over.

So, when do does come back, he'll have 6 days to get ready and in synch with the team for game 5.

I predict 2-3 after game 5, the season officially over before it has begun.

The NFL has won, congratulations, superb job.

Ok, I'm in the middle of a show down here in VA, so back to work.................we see ya'll after game 4...........................
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George:

It is little consolation but Brady proved to be the bigger man and he won even more respect from me.

Knowing the Patriots and Brady they will seek their revenge on the field.

Best,
Jason
 
Brady, being a veteran, will know what he needs to do while he trains by himself. Moreover, I'm sure the team will give him a training plan day by day so he's reasonably ready after he serves his suspension. Considering the quality of the Eastern Division, I'm sure the Patriots will be fine.
 
Thanks for the support and well wishes, I appreciate it.

Imagine this thing lasted 17 months.............................that's 16 months, 29 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes and 59 seconds longer than it should have.

Amazing the amount of people I've talked to at this convention who are now behind Brady and against the ginger haired stooge and the NFL in general.

Good job, he's completely ruined the brand he's been trying to protect.
 
Thanks for the support and well wishes, I appreciate it.

Imagine this thing lasted 17 months.............................that's 16 months, 29 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes and 59 seconds longer than it should have.

Amazing the amount of people I've talked to at this convention who are now behind Brady and against the ginger haired stooge and the NFL in general.

Good job, he's completely ruined the brand he's been trying to protect.
 
Although the matter is now over and done with, the outcome has strengthened the hands of employers in disputes with their employees over the use of arbitration. Employers prefer arbitration (and tend to put it in employee agreements and policies) because arbitrators tend to side with them whereas employees prefer the opposite. Arbitration has been in the news lately because of Gretchen Carson's suing Roger Ailes of Fox News. Ailes wants arbitration whereas Carlson wants to take it to court.
 
jazzeum said:
Although the matter is now over and done with, the outcome has strengthened the hands of employers in disputes with their employees over the use of arbitration. Employers prefer arbitration (and tend to put it in employee agreements and policies) because arbitrators tend to side with them whereas employees prefer the opposite. Arbitration has been in the news lately because of Gretchen Carson's suing Roger Ailes of Fox News. Ailes wants arbitration whereas Carlson wants to take it to court.
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This thing came off the rails when Brady appealed the suspension and Goodell heard the appeal; 99 times out of 100, it's been heard by an INDEPENDENT arbitrator who ruled against the NFL and lessened the fine and or suspension.

He heard it as was his right from the CBA and denied the appeal; if he had cut it to two games, chances are pretty good Brady takes the two and moves on.

Goodell is the one who turned this into the massive ****storm that it has become

He made it personal, the rest of the owners had his back as they are all sick of the Patriots winning.................comical thing is they've won a grand total of two super bowls in the past twelve years, which isn't a lot, but to most of the sad sack owners, who'd give their left one for one Super Bowl win, it is.............................how truly pitiful and pathetic.
 
jazzeum said:
Sorry but I don't think it's **nny. What kind of message are you sending when you only suspend him for one game. He should have received four at a minimum. He could have killed other motorists by driving at that speed while under the influence, not to mention having a minor in the car. It makes what Brady did look like nothing in comparison. They're not even comparable.
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The difference is that the NFL is not a law enforcement agency. If you break a criminal law, then there are criminal penalties for that conduct like going to jail. Brady's conduct involved the integrity of the game over which the NFL has responsibility. He cheated, lied, destroyed evidence, exercised his right to appeal. The fact that others players may have done worse things changes none of that or mean the NFL thinks it is worse to deflate balls than engage in criminal conduct. They are not comparable situations.
 
Combat said:
The difference is that the NFL is not a law enforcement agency. If you break a criminal law, then there are criminal penalties for that conduct like going to jail. Brady's conduct involved the integrity of the game over which the NFL has responsibility. He cheated, lied, destroyed evidence, exercised his right to appeal. The fact that others players may have done worse things changes none of that or mean the NFL thinks it is worse to deflate balls than engage in criminal conduct. They are not comparable situations.
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That clearly put that in perspective...
and I could not agree more...

and I'm not on the same page with all the "destroy NE conspiracies"...

the truth...
Brady conspired and cheated...
then looked into the camera smiling and lied to us all...
then purposely destroyed the only evidence that could prove him innocent...
because it would of condemned him if he hadn't...
cost the Union millions...
embarrassed the entire league...
tarnished the integrity of the game...himself and his team...

Shady Brady for sure...
 
Combat said:
The difference is that the NFL is not a law enforcement agency. If you break a criminal law, then there are criminal penalties for that conduct like going to jail. Brady's conduct involved the integrity of the game over which the NFL has responsibility. He cheated, lied, destroyed evidence, exercised his right to appeal. The fact that others players may have done worse things changes none of that or mean the NFL thinks it is worse to deflate balls than engage in criminal conduct. They are not comparable situations.
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It's completely comparable because they both involve the integrity of the game. Why was the running back for the Ravens suspended for what he did? Or Greg Hardy suspended for ten, then four games. Those situations involve punitive sanctions for violation of the conduct policy.
 
They are talking about doing away with kickoffs in college football due to risk of injuries. That will probably will allow them to add more commercials and make more money. For some reason ($$) they never seem to discuss reducing the number of games played which would be the best way to reduce injuries. If the NFL goes to an 18 game schedule, that will be ridiculous. No QB in the league will survive the season.
 
Combat said:
They are talking about doing away with kickoffs in college football due to risk of injuries. That will probably will allow them to add more commercials and make more money. For some reason ($$) they never seem to discuss reducing the number of games played which would be the best way to reduce injuries. If the NFL goes to an 18 game schedule, that will be ridiculous. No QB in the league will survive the season.
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They've basically taken away the kick off in the NFL by moving the ball so close to the end zone, it's a joke.

Guaranteed in the next CBA negotation, the union will want to take away the commissioners power to hear appeals, which the owners will gladly agree to ..............as long as the union agrees to move to an 18 game schedule.

That makes zero sense as the owners already get two exhibtion game reciepts a year with the BS policy of season ticket holders being forced to buy preseason tickets, so why bother.
 
Well it took awhile, but I finally got around to seeing Concussion last night as it was on cable TV, I had DVR'd it and watched after I got home from the Red Sox game.

What a powerful movie, can't believe Will Smith didn't get more Oscar consideration, he was superb.

After seeing that movie, it makes me wonder why I am a fan of the NFL, they tried to sweep this under the rug; Mike Webster, wow, what a sad story, he was living in his truck before he died at the ripe old age of 50.

The doctor figured he'd had 70,000 blows to the head during the time he played football.

The footage they showed of the other Steeler player who drove the wrong way on the highway and died in a fireball was incredible, they used actual footage of the crash in the movie.

Dave Duerson brushed off the former Eagles player who was begging him for help and who later died; so did Duerson as he took his own life due to CTE.

I really think it's time I rethink my choice to be a fan of this sport.
 
Warrior said:
Well it took awhile, but I finally got around to seeing Concussion last night as it was on cable TV, I had DVR'd it and watched after I got home from the Red Sox game.

What a powerful movie, can't believe Will Smith didn't get more Oscar consideration, he was superb.

After seeing that movie, it makes me wonder why I am a fan of the NFL, they tried to sweep this under the rug; Mike Webster, wow, what a sad story, he was living in his truck before he died at the ripe old age of 50.

The doctor figured he'd had 70,000 blows to the head during the time he played football.

The footage they showed of the other Steeler player who drove the wrong way on the highway and died in a fireball was incredible, they used actual footage of the crash in the movie.

Dave Duerson brushed off the former Eagles player who was begging him for help and who later died; so did Duerson as he took his own life due to CTE.

I really think it's time I rethink my choice to be a fan of this sport.
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I hate to say it, as an NFL fan for 50+ years, but the arrogance and stupidity of NFL leadership has completely killed my affection for the sport. And this relates mostly to the CTE problem, and the constant denials of it's existence, and the criminal way the NFL has acted to cover-up and ignore the facts. They are killing their own players just to protect the dollars. This negligence will kill football in it's current form. At any rate, it's killed my interest. Nice job, NFL. -- Al
 
lancer said:
I hate to say it, as an NFL fan for 50+ years, but the arrogance and stupidity of NFL leadership has completely killed my affection for the sport. And this relates mostly to the CTE problem, and the constant denials of it's existence, and the criminal way the NFL has acted to cover-up and ignore the facts. They are killing their own players just to protect the dollars. This negligence will kill football in it's current form. At any rate, it's killed my interest. Nice job, NFL. -- Al
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One of the scenes in the movie that really hit home was the Will Smith character was watching ESPN and they were doing the former "JACKED UP!" segment they used to run showing the five most brutal hits of the week and they showed a Browns player who got hammered and was out cold before he hit the ground and when they rolled him over, they showed his face and those five morons who do that segment were all laughing hysterically like it was some big joke.

It's no joke now is it; felt bad for the doctor character as to him, it was common sense to warn players of the danger, yet everywhere he turned except the Baldwin character, the former Steelers team doctor, he was brushed off.

What the NFL allowed to happen to players in the past is nothing short of criminal................disgusting really. The Goodell character was a complete stooge, just like the real person.

What a gutless, clueless puppet he is, he's a national embarassment, a true and utter turd.
 
Warrior said:
One of the scenes in the movie that really hit home was the Will Smith character was watching ESPN and they were doing the former "JACKED UP!" segment they used to run showing the five most brutal hits of the week and they showed a Browns player who got hammered and was out cold before he hit the ground and when they rolled him over, they showed his face and those five morons who do that segment were all laughing hysterically like it was some big joke.

It's no joke now is it; felt bad for the doctor character as to him, it was common sense to warn players of the danger, yet everywhere he turned except the Baldwin character, the former Steelers team doctor, he was brushed off.

What the NFL allowed to happen to players in the past is nothing short of criminal................disgusting really. The Goodell character was a complete stooge, just like the real person.

What a gutless, clueless puppet he is, he's a national embarassment, a true and utter turd.
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George:

I finally saw the movie and I felt the same way when I watched it.

I don't really blame the fans or the players because once the medical evidence became apparent there was a legitimate acknowledgment on their part as far as the dangers. The owners are a different story all together. Even in the face of Dr. Omalu's findings they are still in denial about it. And it doesn't matter what team you cheer for, the owner of that team is complicit in that denial.

And you are right about Will Smith, that was an incredible performance. I also that Alec Baldwin and Albert Brooks were great in their respective supporting roles as well.

-Jason
 
Panzer ace said:
George:

I finally saw the movie and I felt the same way when I watched it.

I don't really blame the fans or the players because once the medical evidence became apparent there was a legitimate acknowledgment on their part as far as the dangers. The owners are a different story all together. Even in the face of Dr. Omalu's findings they are still in denial about it. And it doesn't matter what team you cheer for, the owner of that team is complicit in that denial.

And you are right about Will Smith, that was an incredible performance. I also that Alec Baldwin and Albert Brooks were great in their respective supporting roles as well.

-Jason
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The owners have 13 billion reasons to turn a blind eye to this.

Will Smith is probably one of the most under rated actors out there, he was brilliant in "Ali" as well.

He owned the doctor role in this movie.

And yes, Alec Baldwin was very good as well as Albert Brooks.....................
 
Le'veon Bell is facing a four game suspension for missing a drug test; not failing one, missing one.

He's already said he's going to appeal the suspension; no worries, Goodell will reduce it to one game, don't worry Steeler fans...............................


Why the NFL tests for weed at this point is beyond me; it's legal in several states, it's not performance enhancing, why test for it?
 
I haven't seen the movie but know the story. I agree it's a dangerous sport, especially when played at the NFL level.

The bigger question to me is what about football at the college, high school and younger ages? Football is religion down here (just about). A rite of passage, a brotherhood, an affirmation of one's mettle, mental & physical. A **ndamental rework of the game and it's conventions needs to happen, most likely. That should be as easy as moving Mt Everest.
 
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