uksubs
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I would sell here first mate & what left put on ebay
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Ok, I would only add that there is only one reason why Andy and K&C are Number 1,
He is constantly working on how to best serve his customer base with the best product at the best price around and in that is the key to his success and survival.
I don't think that has changed and I find his openess and honesty refreshing, especially while living and dealing with the corporate world.
Ray
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Ray mate,
Nice honest post cobber. You have to know the man to understand the way he is thinking of not only his business but of the entrie TS industry itself.
For all you Aussie Forum members out there, make sure you plan to get to one of the K&C dinners or shop meet'n'greets in Brisbane or Sydney this June when Andy and Helen visit. Talk to the man face to face and you will get a better understanding of how the K&C business operates.
Cheers Howard
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Ray,
I'm sure that Andy has a marketing team and I'm sure some of them do think that way.I don't blame him for cutting back if that's what he needs to do to survive.Time will tell where this leads to.KC has really gotten some bad press the last few months.Andy doesn't even come on the forum anymore.My original statement was a warning to relax a little and don't get yourself into trouble whatever the market strategy is.
Mark
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Alex,
depends on what you are looking for on return. On the forum, you save the 12% fees, but not sure you will achieve same price. It depends on the item basically.
Tom
Your right Mark, some can be reactionary. I think product will still be available, maybe not for 3 or 4 years but I doubt there will be many sellouts before release type situations. As for Andy not coming on the forum... well I advised that years ago, people with personal grudges and resentments are constantly sniping at him with poorly, thinly vealed attacks, the forum gets what it deserves....What used to feel like a brotherhood of those privilaged to have a personal relationship with the actual makers of the product we love now looks more like Sniper Alley.
Ray
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Hey gang:
Can someone explain this to me-I am interested in the culutral aspect here- has absolutely nothing to do with this announcement from KC:
Although workers’ wages have been greatly increased so has the price of living and working in China’s “boom areas”. Many of the workers decide after a while (usually Chinese New Year) to go back and stay back in their rural areas. Although this means less money it also means a less stressful more peaceful existence
People just up and quit their jobs?? Is there some significance in the Chinese New Year that makes workers reassess their lives? Perhaps too much partying, hungover and forgot to set the alarm clock? I am interested in this as New Years here to me really isn't that much of a big deal- certainly not to the point where I would just quit my "day job".{eek3}
Thanks
CC
Can someone explain this to me-I am interested in the culutral aspect here- has absolutely nothing to do with this announcement from KC:
Although workers’ wages have been greatly increased so has the price of living and working in China’s “boom areas”. Many of the workers decide after a while (usually Chinese New Year) to go back and stay back in their rural areas. Although this means less money it also means a less stressful more peaceful existence
People just up and quit their jobs?? Is there some significance in the Chinese New Year that makes workers reassess their lives? Perhaps too much partying, hungover and forgot to set the alarm clock? I am interested in this as New Years here to me really isn't that much of a big deal- certainly not to the point where I would just quit my "day job".{eek3}
Thanks
CC
Re: Production cutbacksmoney
I have read that a painter has a 5 to 8 years span
How true it is ?? Maybe it is. Must be same for sculpter
These chinese don't think like we do.
maybe after making the money they need to be settle
to live a normal peaceful life they go back home.
Andy should have a good notion of that.
I have read that a painter has a 5 to 8 years span
How true it is ?? Maybe it is. Must be same for sculpter
These chinese don't think like we do.
maybe after making the money they need to be settle
to live a normal peaceful life they go back home.
Andy should have a good notion of that.
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Re: Production cutbacksmoney
Would you care to explain your idiotic rascist statement that the Chinese don't think as we do. Do you know any? I do. I'm married to one and their thought waves are the same as other human beings.
Sad in the extreme.
Would you care to explain your idiotic rascist statement that the Chinese don't think as we do. Do you know any? I do. I'm married to one and their thought waves are the same as other human beings.
Sad in the extreme.
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Re: Production cutbacksmoney
I don't think he was being racist at all Brad. The Chinese have a very different culture just as the British do and the Canadians etc....
I don't think he was being racist at all Brad. The Chinese have a very different culture just as the British do and the Canadians etc....
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Re: Production cutbacksmoney
Sensitive much Brad? Seems to me the poster was trying to make a POSITIVE comment about the Chinese, suggesting that perhaps their culture is less materially/money motivated than "greedy" americans.
Sensitive much Brad? Seems to me the poster was trying to make a POSITIVE comment about the Chinese, suggesting that perhaps their culture is less materially/money motivated than "greedy" americans.
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Hi Chris,
I don't believe there is anything specific in the tradition and celebration of Chinese New Year (Lunar calendar) that prescribes job quitting. However, many Chinese do see the New Year as a good time to start life anew. This is like a watershed period when Chinese throw out the old and usher in the new.
It is customary for all Chinese to return home for the all important family reunion dinner on the New Year's Eve. Many factory workers in the cities have to journey long distances back to their homes in the rural country for this reunion feast. Some may decide not to go back especially if they have earned enough after working a couple of years in the big city industrial areas.
I think this may in part explain K&C's statement.
Regards, Raymond.
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Thank you Raymond, Gazza (via PM) and Mapleleaf. I do appreciate your thoughts. I was just curious- I've been all over the Orient but never China. I do find several "eastern" traditions very very enlightening. I believe I saw a show on NPR or Nat Geo which sort of touched on this phenomenon- you can make really really good money over the course of a few years in certain parts of China and then go back home, where the cost of living is much much lower and just lay low. Very very cool imo.
CC
CC
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Well, if that's not what Mapleleaf intended, he has my apologies. Maybe it's not what he meant to say.
As my son, who is half Chinese, has experienced racial comments, I am somewhat sensitive to these kinds of comments, even if meant innocently (not to mention my daughter is also married to a Chinese person).
As my son, who is half Chinese, has experienced racial comments, I am somewhat sensitive to these kinds of comments, even if meant innocently (not to mention my daughter is also married to a Chinese person).
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Re: Production cutbacksmoney
Mapleleaf...
Even though knickers are twisting I see exactly what you meant. We are in the west more orientated by money and material goods and, I know many chinese who see their lifestyles in very different ways to those from the west. If you live in the poorer provinces and can make good money from this hobby or any other industry and think this is enough for me and my family to be happy and go back home then great.
Andy himself alluded to this in his post but nobody jumped all over him. There are very big differences in views from east and west and, with all that experience that should have been clear.
Mitch
Mapleleaf...
Even though knickers are twisting I see exactly what you meant. We are in the west more orientated by money and material goods and, I know many chinese who see their lifestyles in very different ways to those from the west. If you live in the poorer provinces and can make good money from this hobby or any other industry and think this is enough for me and my family to be happy and go back home then great.
Andy himself alluded to this in his post but nobody jumped all over him. There are very big differences in views from east and west and, with all that experience that should have been clear.
Mitch
Jazzeum
My comment was not racist
It is a fact that most chinese after awhile go back home
Even Andy would tell u that. Most readers here got the message.
I understand being touchy about it cause ur family is part chinese
would be like a jewish collector with LAH.
Different culture over there and different way of thinking and living.
Maple Leaf
My comment was not racist
It is a fact that most chinese after awhile go back home
Even Andy would tell u that. Most readers here got the message.
I understand being touchy about it cause ur family is part chinese
would be like a jewish collector with LAH.
Different culture over there and different way of thinking and living.
Maple Leaf
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You would be surprised.I know of several Jewish collectors who buy LAH items.It is the hatred attitude that they don't tolerate. I think this thread has come full circle as far as all the
comments made here. Let's move on and get back to our hobby and all the fun it brings with it ! {sm0}
comments made here. Let's move on and get back to our hobby and all the fun it brings with it ! {sm0}
This thread got a little off track. I would like to read more comments about what the members think about the announced cutbacks. I have found this all very interesting and pretty calmly discussed and with all the views expressed, I have learned quite a bit. -- Al
To get back to the cutbacks
From previous threads the general opinion was that
people have less money to spend or with the prices increases
are buying less for their money or have to be selective
So cutbacks and less money, it evens up
That's only my opinion
Happy collecting
From previous threads the general opinion was that
people have less money to spend or with the prices increases
are buying less for their money or have to be selective
So cutbacks and less money, it evens up
That's only my opinion
Happy collecting
Rob
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I agree , have enjoyed this thread and the calm way it's been discussed . I think the decision is a common sense one and while it may mean a few things slip by that I'd like to have got, in the long term it secures the continued monthly release of new items to choose from. I also think that as so many items are being retired that some of them are bound to be around for a while , others of course may not. Times are tough out there and any policy that streamlines your business etc has to be a good thing.
Rob