Prototype of Figarti G Prototype (1 Viewer)

[uksubs]

I consider FL overpriced compared with Figarti and W. Britains armor and figures respectively. Figarti and W. Britains are of equal quality to First legion IMHO. View attachment 188379View attachment 188378

W Britains don't make AFV at the moment and as you said before figarti have not made anything new in the last two years so in 1/30 scale leave only FL in 1/30 AFV

 

[katana]

Sorry to say not my cup of teas as they look toy like and something my boy would play with but each to there own:salute:::salute::

Toy Soldiers are toys!
The TASCA Panzer II 1/24 scale model is considered one of the finest most detailed models of this vehicle ever done. The Thomas Gunn Hetzer is a very accurate and detailed model in true 1/30 scale. Plus it is compatable with 60mm as measured figures like W. Britains and First Legion. I would not let children play with the Vstank King Tiger as it has an operating main gun and someone might get hurt.

 

[uksubs]

Toy Soldiers are toys!
The TASCA Panzer II 1/24 scale model is considered one of the finest most detailed models of this vehicle ever done. The Thomas Gunn Hetzer is a very accurate and detailed model in true 1/30 scale. Plus it is compatable with 60mm as measured figures like W. Britains and First Legion. I would not let children play with the Vstank King Tiger as it has an operating main gun and someone might get hurt.

That just your opinion , I've owned FOV 1/16 King tiger which had miles better detail than that 1/24 Panzer ll but that just my opinion ^&grin

 

[katana]

W Britains don't make AFV at the moment and as you said before figarti have not made anything new in the last two years so in 1/30 scale leave only FL in 1/30 AFV

A lot of Figarti pieces are on Ebay; so it is still available. K&C armor is 1/30 scale except for the M4A3E8. Thomas Gunn armor is a true 1/30 scale so a lot of true 1/30 scale armor is avialable
other than First Legion.

 

[uksubs]

A lot of Figarti pieces are on Ebay; so it is still available. K&C armor is 1/30 scale except for the M4A3E8. Thomas Gunn armor is a true 1/30 scale so a lot of true 1/30 scale armor is avialable
other than First Legion.

Kc and figarti AFV are all over place on scale and that the downside of using polystone and I should know as I both in my collection but First Legion are a step up in detail ,price and true 1/30 scale in my opinion

 

[katana]

The Figarti pieces I have, all measure an accurate 1/30 scale; as do the Thomas Gunn, Honor Bound and TCS pieces, except the TCS Stug III and Jagdpanther which measure 1/28 scale. Polystone does shrink in the mold depending on how much filler is utilized; but the Figarti products were quite consistant. Perhaps the small lot size was a factor in their consistancy.

 

[Hunter Rose]

The Figarti pieces I have, all measure an accurate 1/30 scale; as do the Thomas Gunn, Honor Bound and TCS pieces, except the TCS Stug III and Jagdpanther which measure 1/28 scale. Polystone does shrink in the mold depending on how much filler is utilized; but the Figarti products were quite consistant. Perhaps the small lot size was a factor in their consistancy.

You tend to make sweeping generalizations on scale based off owning a few vehicles by a company, and the information you pass is often inaccurate.

Figarti has plenty of vehicles that are larger than 1/30. K&C has a ton of vehicles larger than 1/30. Pretty much every TCS vehicle ever made is larger than 1/30 (including the Panthers).

Lots of vehicles you declare 1/30 without actually owning or measuring them are in actuality larger than 1/30. I think to your eye they are just look "close enough" based off pictures of how they look with figures.

 

[Hunter Rose]

K&C armor is 1/30 scale except for the M4A3E8.

I guess you've never owned the K&C Hummel, Bulge Konigstiger, Short barrel StuG, short barrel Panzer IV, M36 Jackson, SdKfz 251 halftracks...:salute::

 

[jazzeum]

Even Andy admitted that some in the past some tanks may have been smaller than 1/30.

 

[katana]

You tend to make sweeping generalizations on scale based off owning a few vehicles by a company, and the information you pass is often inaccurate.

Figarti has plenty of vehicles that are larger than 1/30. K&C has a ton of vehicles larger than 1/30. Pretty much every TCS vehicle ever made is larger than 1/30 (including the Panthers).



Lots of vehicles you declare 1/30 without actually owning or measuring them are in actuality larger than 1/30. I think to your eye they are just look "close enough" based off pictures of how they look with figures.

I did not make a global statement. I refered specifically to the pieces I own; which I have actually measured and calculated the scale. I do round numbers; if the calculated scale is 1/29.6, I will call it as 1/30 scale. The TCS Jagdpanther; which I own and measured is 1/28 scale as is the TCS Stug III. I do not stipulate the scale of a vehicle I do not own and have measured. I try to be accurate when I make a statment or venture an opinion; but I make mistakes as does anyone. Pleas tell me what vehicle and where I stated its scale in error.

 

[Hunter Rose]

K&C armor is 1/30 scale except for the M4A3E8.

The Figarti pieces I have, all measure an accurate 1/30 scale; as do the Thomas Gunn, Honor Bound and TCS pieces, except the TCS Stug III and Jagdpanther which measure 1/28 scale.

Katana,

Here's two recent examples in the last couple posts of your sweeping statements.

The first one states K&C armor is 1/30 with the exception of one Sherman. That's extremely incorrect.

The second one gives the impression that you own lots of TCS pieces that are 1/30 wiht two exceptions. Again, completely wrong. 99% of TCS armor is not 1/30.

Also recently and in the past you've made sweeping generalizations that Figarti armor is 1/30, when lots of it isn't.

 

[katana]

I guess you've never owned the K&C Hummel, Bulge Konigstiger, Short barrel StuG, short barrel Panzer IV, M36 Jackson, SdKfz 251 halftracks...:salute::

I do not own any of those pieces nor have I specifically stated what their scale is; as I do not know.
K&C has stated they switched from 1/32 to 1/30 scale with the Tunisian Tiger I in 2009. I would assume that means pieces made from 2009 to the present are 1/30 scale, per K&C's comments.
K&C has also stated that the M4A3E8 is 1/28 scale; which means K&C has produced vehicles in at least three scales; 1/32, 1/30 and 1/28. I am not saying this K&C is. I am merely repeating what I have read on this forum. Posts on this Forum are not Scientific or Engineering papers being presented where source citations are required! I would also suggest that you not cite phrases out of context; as it confuses the issue under discussion.

 

[katana]

Katana,

Here's two recent examples in the last couple posts of your sweeping statements.

The first one states K&C armor is 1/30 with the exception of one Sherman. That's extremely incorrect.

The second one gives the impression that you own lots of TCS pieces that are 1/30 wiht two exceptions. Again, completely wrong. 99% of TCS armor is not 1/30.

Also recently and in the past you've made sweeping generalizations that Figarti armor is 1/30, when lots of it isn't.

Please note the phrase(The Pieces I Own). I never specified how many pieces of TCS armor I have nor implied quantity. I cited the specific scales of the Jagdpanther and Stug III; which I measured.

The Figarti armor I own and I have measured are the Jagdpanzer IV and the Panther G at 1/29.5 scale to be very accurate; but I usually round it up. I have the Figarti T34-85 also; but since I have not had occasion to measure it I will not venture an approximation of its scale.

The comments about K&C scale is from comments made by K&C regarding the scale of their products. I would consider this information reliable unless you can provide information to refute it.

 

[katana]

I would really like to know which Figarti and K&C armor is larger than 1/30 scale. The two companies shifted from 1/32 to 1/30 awhile ago.

I have not previously heard that Figarti made armor larger than 1/30; which pieces are they?

Whch K&C pieces are larger than 1/30; other than the M4A3E8 series?

When it is said that Figarti armor is all over the place in size/scale; what is the range of error?
How many units of scale +/- 1, +/- 2, +/-3? This would be valuable information in making a buying decision. My Figarti pieces that I have measured are within +/_ .5 units of scale or a range of 1/29.5 t0 1/30.5. I am sure those with larger collections could contribute far more data than I can provide. A facinating subject!

 

[Hunter Rose]

Please note the phrase(The Pieces I Own).
The comments about K&C scale is from comments made by K&C regarding the scale of their products. I would consider this information reliable unless you can provide information to refute it.

That right there is funny.

 

[Hunter Rose]

I would really like to know which Figarti and K&C armor is larger than 1/30 scale. The two companies shifted from 1/32 to 1/30 awhile ago.

I have not previously heard that Figarti made armor larger than 1/30; which pieces are they?

Whch K&C pieces are larger than 1/30; other than the M4A3E8 series?

When it is said that Figarti armor is all over the place in size/scale; what is the range of error?
How many units of scale +/- 1, +/- 2, +/-3? This would be valuable information in making a buying decision. My Figarti pieces that I have measured are within +/_ .5 units of scale or a range of 1/29.5 t0 1/30.5. I am sure those with larger collections could contribute far more data than I can provide. A facinating subject!

I've posted plenty of threads on products with measurements and comparison pictures between vehicles. Do some searching.

I've already given you examples of K&C vehicles that are not 1/30. For Figarti start with the grey Panzer IV and the Prime Mover.

Good luck in your search for scale answers. I'm out.

 

[PanzerAce1944]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Xrlf3taEo

 

[uksubs]

You tend to make sweeping generalizations on scale based off owning a few vehicles by a company, and the information you pass is often inaccurate.

Figarti has plenty of vehicles that are larger than 1/30. K&C has a ton of vehicles larger than 1/30. Pretty much every TCS vehicle ever made is larger than 1/30 (including the Panthers).

Lots of vehicles you declare 1/30 without actually owning or measuring them are in actuality larger than 1/30. I think to your eye they are just look "close enough" based off pictures of how they look with figures.

Well said :salute::

 

[katana]

I've posted plenty of threads on products with measurements and comparison pictures between vehicles. Do some searching.

I've already given you examples of K&C vehicles that are not 1/30. For Figarti start with the grey Panzer IV and the Prime Mo

Good luck in your search for scale answers. I'm out.

Could you provide a link to your scale research piece with photos that you reference? I would like to read the specific post.

 

[katana]

W Britains don't make AFV at the moment and as you said before figarti have not made anything new in the last two years so in 1/30 scale leave only FL in 1/30 AFV

W. Britains 1/32 polystone Panzer IV, T-34 and M4 are available on Ebay. Figarti has done repaints of previous models; T-34-85, JS-2, IS-152, wheather they are new or not depends on your point of view or opinion.