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[Jack]

Exciting times I think. There has been so much discussion about prices and the subsequent influence on collectors that it was perhaps inevitable that one of the big companies would respond in such a manner. Criticisms of rising costs and simultaneous demands for better quality are akin to criticising a meal for being inedible and being served in too small a portion. Something had to change. K&C changed the game once before and it is good to see that after thirty years the company can still show a capacity to think laterally.

Any move that offers some relief from rising prices AND a possible appeal to new collectors can only be good for the Hobby, for collectors as a whole, and, most importantly, will no doubt be good for me. A growing Hobby brings a range of benefits. Even those who do not buy a single one of the figures may enjoy a flow on effect to their part of the hobby. If nothing else it might help those who moan about the death of the hobby and the rising costs to remember how much fun collecting can be.

 

[Rob]

Exciting times I think. There has been so much discussion about prices and the subsequent influence on collectors that it was perhaps inevitable that one of the big companies would respond in such a manner. Criticisms of rising costs and simultaneous demands for better quality are akin to criticising a meal for being inedible and being served in too small a portion. Something had to change. K&C changed the game once before and it is good to see that after thirty years the company can still show a capacity to think laterally.

Any move that offers some relief from rising prices AND a possible appeal to new collectors can only be good for the Hobby, for collectors as a whole, and, most importantly, will no doubt be good for me. A growing Hobby brings a range of benefits. Even those who do not buy a single one of the figures may enjoy a flow on effect to their part of the hobby. If nothing else it might help those who moan about the death of the hobby and the rising costs to remember how much fun collecting can be.

I will be very interested to see if any new plan does offer the chance to purchase figures cheaper that could be used to good effect to ' flesh out' dioramas with existing more expensive figures. This would be a big driver in me buying them, a lot depends on the painting and detailing. Can't wait to see what's coming.

Rob

 

[The Military Workshop]

Just show KC did not have a great show when only thing your talking about is ifs and buts they may make make :rolleyes2:lucky dispatches are out today :wink2:^&grin

Not sure how you relate how K&C did at the show to this thread. I think all the dioramas K&C had on display at the show had been shown on TF (images from the Collector) before the show.

Anyway as you say Despatches should be out in a few minutes so people will be able to critique known items and their prices rather than ones currently unseen.

 

[Mirof]

I'm not so sure about the difference in price it could bring

For instance, if you consider the market for figures in kit, the price for a 54mm is between -0% and -30%
and those are unpainted ..
so for painted ones, for the same quality of "industrial-studio painting", the diffence would be between 0% and circa 10%

 

[Rob]

Not sure how you relate how K&C did at the show to this thread. I think all the dioramas K&C had on display at the show had been shown on TF (images from the Collector) before the show.

Anyway as you say Despatches should be out in a few minutes so people will be able to critique known items and their prices rather than ones currently unseen.

Thanks Brett, I won't get on with the garden then!:salute::

Rob

 

[uksubs]

Brett just show there was nothing new with talking about if all people have been talking about is plastic toy soldiers from KC ^&grin

 

[The Military Workshop]

Brett just show there was nothing new with talking about if all people have been talking about is plastic toy soldiers from KC ^&grin

I think you must be confusing what is in this thread with the perhaps hundreds of personal exchanges K&C will have had with their collectors in the past couple of weeks.

Since you are waiting eagerly like everybody else for the latest news hopefully you will find something to discuss.

 

[Desertkiwi]

I think in all the stupidity in this thread this (what Gary and others have posted) is exactly what we should be discussing. Far from the nonsense of accusing some of rumour and wild speculation much of what has been said (by a few) is based on the fact that Andy has told a number of people what is going on including prices etc and, they have sadly, like fish women at the market, blabbed to ensure they have some position of ''knowledge''

The fact that empty boxes etc are being parodied and used as great humour by some just shows where we are.

There were no rumours it was all based on leaks by those unable to control and contain themselves when told to keep something to themselves.

The questions I asked earlier in this thread before it was tried to be derailed are still valid and I look forward to them being answered. Especially as they are valid in that they pertain to the future products that K&C will be releasing.

Congrats to all for allowing a number of people to be called and openly abused and mocked for raising issues which should have interested all in the hobby and, in future perhaps Andy should re write his list of who he wants to know his ''little secrets''
The worst kept non secret ever!!. shambolic!!
Mitch

Since when were you appointed a moderator Mitch? If a few of the guys want to kick back and have a laugh, so be it. Isn't that what the forum is about? At the end of the day we're all adults here, at least as far as I'm aware anyway. Oh dear we've gone off topic, get real. No ones been abused, that's just your take on it. Yeah sure there's been some serious discussion and some light hearted banter too, but most of us are blokes who roll with the punches and blow hot air up each other now and then.

Anyway you're a fine one to get all high and mighty over such things, as I recall, you don't miss a beat when it comes to taking cheap shots at the 'P' range or continuously bringing up the so-called tank track issue, the 'weight' thing or anything else YOU decide isn't correct. That's fine, you have a right to your opinion, but so have the rest of us. Next time you get sand in your undies, take a deep breath and go and have yourself a cold one.

 

[barneywomble]

I have to go home now cause people are throwing sand in the sand pit...{sm2}

cheers
marc

 

[uksubs]

Why wait for KC to make plastic toy soldiers when you can make them yourself with this baby "The Cube "3d printer {eek3}
http://cubify.com/cube/

 

[barneywomble]

Why wait for KC to make plastic toy soldiers when you can make them yourself with this baby "The Cube "3d printer {eek3}
http://cubify.com/cube/

I WANT ONE ^&grin

Cheers
Marc

 

[jazzeum]

Just show KC did not have a great show when only thing your talking about is ifs and buts they may make make :rolleyes2:lucky dispatches are out today :wink2:^&grin

Neil,

I'm not sure how you could draw that conclusion when you weren't there. I was, and his room was more crowded than usual. I had barely any time to speak to Andy and normally I get a little more face time with him.

I saw many people come up to him and tell him how much they loved what he was doing. There was even one couple from Michigan that Howard and I were talking to who couldn't get enough of his John Ford range. Andy came over and talked to them and told them that they were almost out of stock but that more would be coming. I could tell that they were very excited to speak to him.

Now, I realize this is just one example but if this isn't emblematic of a great show, I don't know what is.

Brad

 

[uksubs]

Neil,

I'm not sure how you could draw that conclusion when you weren't there. I was, and his room was more crowded than usual. I had barely any time to speak to Andy and normally I get a little more face time with him.

I saw many people come up to him and tell him how much they loved what he was doing. There was even one couple from Michigan that Howard and I were talking to who couldn't get enough of his John Ford range. Andy came over and talked to them and told them that they were almost out of stock but that more would be coming. I could tell that they were very excited to speak to him.

Now, I realize this is just one example but if this isn't emblematic of a great show, I don't know what is.

Brad

Brad I'm just going on what I've been told in pm and lack of new items on show no big deal

 

[The Military Workshop]

Brad I'm just going on what I've been told in pm and lack of new items on show no big deal

Seems like the source of your PM's has a negative outlook on things.

If you look closely K&C had a lot of just released items on display in Chicago plus some not actually announced. However I am sure people appreciate you passing on 2nd hand negative thoughts about a show you did not attend.

 

[TomNT]

Since when were you appointed a moderator Mitch? If a few of the guys want to kick back and have a laugh, so be it. Isn't that what the forum is about? At the end of the day we're all adults here, at least as far as I'm aware anyway. Oh dear we've gone off topic, get real. No ones been abused, that's just your take on it. Yeah sure there's been some serious discussion and some light hearted banter too, but most of us are blokes who roll with the punches and blow hot air up each other now and then.

Anyway you're a fine one to get all high and mighty over such things, as I recall, you don't miss a beat when it comes to taking cheap shots at the 'P' range or continuously bringing up the so-called tank track issue, the 'weight' thing or anything else YOU decide isn't correct. That's fine, you have a right to your opinion, but so have the rest of us. Next time you get sand in your undies, take a deep breath and go and have yourself a cold one.

Great post Toddy, couldn't have said it better myself!

Tom

 

[jazzeum]

Neil,

Just because they didn't release a lot of new items, that doesn't mean they didn't have a good show. Moreover, it is not K & C's practice to announce new items at the Show like Figarti does. It's just a different way of doing things.

Trust me, as I explained earlier, they had a very good show.

Brad

 

[Rob]

Seems like the source of your PM's has a negative outlook on things.

If you look closely K&C had a lot of just released items on display in Chicago plus some not actually announced. However I am sure people appreciate you passing on 2nd hand negative thoughts about a show you did not attend.

Am I right in thinking the new Jerries announced today were the ones on show in Chicago ? l very much like the Tank riders^&cool

Got to get to Chicago one of these days and also the Westcoaster if poss. But next on the tour date list is London^&cool^&cool

Rob

 

[Rob]

Neil,

Just because they didn't release a lot of new items, that doesn't mean they didn't have a good show. Moreover, it is not K & C's practice to announce new items at the Show like Figarti does. It's just a different way of doing things.

Trust me, as I explained earlier, they had a very good show.

Brad

And it's easy to tell you did my friend, you just love that show don't you:salute::^&cool:smile2:

Nothing like the shows in my view. Friends, collectors, Toy Soldiers....and people buy you drinks!!:wink2::salute:: Hint hint Bob,Jeff,James,Simon,Andy^&grin

Rob

 

[Panzer ace]

And it's easy to tell you did my friend, you just love that show don't you:salute::^&cool:smile2:

Nothing like the shows in my view. Friends, collectors, Toy Soldiers....and people buy you drinks!!:wink2::salute:: Hint hint Bob,Jeff,James,Simon,Andy^&grin

Rob

Rob:

You make it out to the Westcoaster and I will buy you a round or two.

 

[Rob]

Rob:

You make it out to the Westcoaster and I will buy you a round or two.

You Sir are a gentleman and I not only accept your kind offer but return it to you should you ever make it to these rainy shores for the London show my friend:salute::

Rob