South Africa 2010 (4 Viewers)

Congratulations to Spain :) and to the young gun Thomas Mueller for winning the 2010 World Cup Golden Boot award for top scorer . See you all for Euro 2012 Gebhard

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Felicitaciones! the best team, BY FAR won and deserves the all the credit...:D

Holland, the eternal VICE.....:(
 
2 hour passing drill, anyone wonder why speed junky Americans will never be big fans of soccer?:cool:
 
Big congratulations to Spain,not the best match I've ever seen but you still deserved it.Agree with Oz in that for me the WC was tainted by the absolutely absurd antics of players from several countires whose players went down at the slightest touch,brings great shame on the game.

Congrats Brad,I bet you enjoyed returning home to that result?:):cool:

Rob
 
Yo Troopers, well done Spain, Holland were a disgrace to World Football. If you can only play the game by trying to intimidate the opposition, and trying to kick them off the field its time to pack the game in. Some of the tackles were horrendous bordered on the criminal, the tackle on Alonso was one of the worst I have seen in football and it was meant to hurt him. Think Howard Webb was under orders to keep them all on the field being a WC final. Two Holland players should have gone off in the first half. But then the game is ruined, but it didn't work Holland ruined the game anyway. Did say in an earlier thread it was the worst WC I have ever seen. Dont think this will help bring any none football fans into watching the game. At least Spain did play the beautiful game so thats something.
Bernard.
 
Rob, thanks.

Great result but having watched the game in the excerpted version that ESPN showed, I am compelled to agree with Bernard somewhat. It was not a great display of football. I believe Spain tried to do that but the Dutch tried to do what they did in the Brasil game: play physical football and bring the opposition down to their level. It's too bad we couldn't see something like we say in the third place match but too much was on the line. At any rate the better team won so the right result prevailed.
 
Cardigan600 said:
Yo Troopers, well done Spain, Holland were a disgrace to World Football. If you can only play the game by trying to intimidate the opposition, and trying to kick them off the field its time to pack the game in. Some of the tackles were horrendous bordered on the criminal, the tackle on Alonso was one of the worst I have seen in football and it was meant to hurt him. Think Howard Webb was under orders to keep them all on the field being a WC final. Two Holland players should have gone off in the first half. But then the game is ruined, but it didn't work Holland ruined the game anyway. Did say in an earlier thread it was the worst WC I have ever seen. Dont think this will help bring any none football fans into watching the game. At least Spain did play the beautiful game so thats something.
Bernard.
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Well said Bernard, Holland played dirt and bad and well deserved the second place, as always 3 finals no win...what terrible record....
 
Here is a great article in today's NY Times by Rob Hughes, a wonderful football writer:

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FINAL IS BLACKENED BY TOO MUCH YELLOW

Justice took almost until time ran out, almost until a dreaded shootout, to arrive in this World Cup final.

For 115 minutes, the Dutch players had done what they said they were prepared to do: they played ugly. They blamed their history, feeling that the team inspired by Johan Cruyff in the 1970s lost in spite of its talent. On Sunday, seemingly afraid of the gifted Spaniards, they simply opted to knock them down.

There has never been so foul an intent in the 40 years I have watched the World Cup. Sadly, the English referee Howard Webb added to it by handing out only yellow cards to eight Dutch players.

The red stayed in his pocket until extra time when John Heitinga, who had already received a yellow card for an earlier foul, brought down Andrés Iniesta to prevent a scoring chance. In some soccer circles that is seen as a team-oriented act, deliberately accepting a second card to prevent what could have been the winning goal.

It stands up there, or down there, with Luis Suárez’s deliberate handball to prevent a go-ahead goal by Ghana in the final seconds of a game Uruguay went on to win.

Long before Heitinga was sent off, Webb had the ability to protect the Spanish players from numerous fouls by the Dutch, notably by Mark van Bommel and Nigel de Jong.

The most vicious of those fouls came 28 minutes in when de Jong booted Xabi Alonso in the rib cage, a play that in many games would have resulted in his dismissal.

Webb chose to give him a yellow card, and the mayhem went on.

Yes, the Spanish players retaliated, sometimes with kicks of their own. But when a team is in the World Cup final against an opponent that has said it is prepared to win ugly, it has no choice but to defend itself and show that it will not be intimidated.

When Spain’s goal finally came, it arrived with beauty. Iniesta had been the outstanding player on the field, and was probably the most fouled as well.

When his chance came, off a pass by the substitute Cesc Fàbregas, he did not hesitate. His volley into the opposite corner of the net was a difficult play at the best of times. In the 116th minute of the World Cup final, with his legs bruised from the kicking and his energy level sapped, it was truly exceptional.

Iniesta then took off his jersey to reveal a white undershirt. It was inscribed “Dani Jarque Siempre Con Nosotros” — Dani Jarque, always with us. Jarque was a player on Espanyol, the rival team to F.C. Barcelona in the same Catalan city. He died of a heart attack in August 2009, at age 26.

Iniesta was given an automatic yellow card for taking off his jersey.

“I wanted to carry Dani Jarque with me, and so did the other players,” Iniesta said. “And I think this was the best tribute.”

FIFA, soccer’s governing body, is uncompromising when it comes to this rule. Any player who removes his shirt when celebrating a goal, regardless of reason or sentiment, receives a yellow card.

So Iniesta, the best player in this World Cup final, received the same punishment that players like van Bommel and de Jong received for hard fouls that had the potential to injure.

The correct team won the World Cup. Spain had overcome Germany, which was beaten by its skilled passers in the semifinal. It had withstood the Netherlands’ attempts to kick its star players out of the final.

Iniesta had shown some humanity with his gesture, and taken the consequences. And he triumphed in a final game that almost shamed the tournament.

The Dutch, when they reflect on their performance, will know that they threw away a great opportunity. The two best teams in the world were on the field in Soccer City stadium, but one of them was not content to let skill decide the game. Thankfully, it lost.

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jazzeum said:
Here is a great article in today's NY Times by Rob Hughes, a wonderful football writer:

***

FINAL IS BLACKENED BY TOO MUCH YELLOW

Justice took almost until time ran out, almost until a dreaded shootout, to arrive in this World Cup final.

For 115 minutes, the Dutch players had done what they said they were prepared to do: they played ugly. They blamed their history, feeling that the team inspired by Johan Cruyff in the 1970s lost in spite of its talent. On Sunday, seemingly afraid of the gifted Spaniards, they simply opted to knock them down.

There has never been so foul an intent in the 40 years I have watched the World Cup. Sadly, the English referee Howard Webb added to it by handing out only yellow cards to eight Dutch players. The red stayed in his pocket until extra time when John Heitinga, who had already received a yellow card for an earlier foul, brought down Andrés Iniesta to prevent a scoring chance. In some soccer circles that is seen as a team-oriented act, deliberately accepting a second card to prevent what could have been the winning goal.

It stands up there, or down there, with Luis Suárez’s deliberate handball to prevent a go-ahead goal by Ghana in the final seconds of a game Uruguay went on to win.

Long before Heitinga was sent off, Webb had the ability to protect the Spanish players from numerous fouls by the Dutch, notably by Mark van Bommel and Nigel de Jong.

The most vicious of those fouls came 28 minutes in when de Jong booted Xabi Alonso in the rib cage, a play that in many games would have resulted in his dismissal.

Webb chose to give him a yellow card, and the mayhem went on.

Yes, the Spanish players retaliated, sometimes with kicks of their own. But when a team is in the World Cup final against an opponent that has said it is prepared to win ugly, it has no choice but to defend itself and show that it will not be intimidated.

When Spain’s goal finally came, it arrived with beauty. Iniesta had been the outstanding player on the field, and was probably the most fouled as well.

When his chance came, off a pass by the substitute Cesc Fàbregas, he did not hesitate. His volley into the opposite corner of the net was a difficult play at the best of times. In the 116th minute of the World Cup final, with his legs bruised from the kicking and his energy level sapped, it was truly exceptional.

Iniesta then took off his jersey to reveal a white undershirt. It was inscribed “Dani Jarque Siempre Con Nosotros” — Dani Jarque, always with us. Jarque was a player on Espanyol, the rival team to F.C. Barcelona in the same Catalan city. He died of a heart attack in August 2009, at age 26.

Iniesta was given an automatic yellow card for taking off his jersey.

“I wanted to carry Dani Jarque with me, and so did the other players,” Iniesta said. “And I think this was the best tribute.”

FIFA, soccer’s governing body, is uncompromising when it comes to this rule. Any player who removes his shirt when celebrating a goal, regardless of reason or sentiment, receives a yellow card.

So Iniesta, the best player in this World Cup final, received the same punishment that players like van Bommel and de Jong received for hard fouls that had the potential to injure.

The correct team won the World Cup. Spain had overcome Germany, which was beaten by its skilled passers in the semifinal. It had withstood the Netherlands’ attempts to kick its star players out of the final.

Iniesta had shown some humanity with his gesture, and taken the consequences. And he triumphed in a final game that almost shamed the tournament.

The Dutch, when they reflect on their performance, will know that they threw away a great opportunity. The two best teams in the world were on the field in Soccer City stadium, but one of them was not content to let skill decide the game. Thankfully, it lost.

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Probably under strict guidlines from FIFA as it was the final, the alternative was a Dutch team with only 3 players! :rolleyes:

Jeff
 
Webb tried hard not to spoil the game but that rib cage tackle... a clear red card that's what it should have been... It was a closed game, the Dutch really were obsessed with stopping Spain's game (it's not hard to imagine feeling the urge to do that when you are playing against the World's best midfield:D). The best team won, that's for sure, and I really hate that Van Bommel character, but let's not get too carried away, the Dutch have shown the world they can play, did reach the final on their own merit and had their moments in the final (Robben must still be thinking how on earth could he miss that sitter after Sneijder's beautiful pass:D, although Casillas did a great job on this an other situations). By the way, I think Robben is probably being over rated, he keeps dribbling into walls of defenders, 0% return...:D. Sneijder yes, that's a classy player.
And now this, I saw TV footage of a marriage in Spain between a Dutch fellow and a Spanish lady. The guys offered the bride an orange football T-Shirt which had a Dutch name written on its back: VAN APERDER (you're gonna lose for those that don't know Spanish):D:D:D:D, a different Van this time:D:D:D.

Paulo
 
debrito said:
Well said Bernard, Holland played dirt and bad and well deserved the second place, as always 3 finals no win...what terrible record....
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I thought this a perfect 10 out of a possible 10 Karate kick :eek::eek: and the best red card that wasn't of all time , now that's something to be proud of . IMO van Bommel at 33 is just starting to show his age a bit and trying to make up for the loss of skill by others ways .......he won't be back in 4 years and I'm sure he knows it . Don't forget he played with Barcelona winning three trophies with the club .Its a shame really as the bad play gets the spotlight and all the hard work it takes to get to this level is washed away by most . 2nd place is still a Great accomplishment and I must say Congratulations to Holland as well as another big CONGRATULATIONS TO WORLD CUP CHAMPIONS 2010 SPAIN . Gebhard
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Nigel de Jong's high tackle on Xabi Alonso.....more like kung fu fighting.

Raymond.

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