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Mitch said:
have to ask. Is the gaze.. my god! did I buy this or, I am glad I bought this??
Mitch
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iirc, Jazz made a comment lauding the winter Me 110 as the finest plane Figarti has done, and if I'm quoting him correctly, I can see where he is coming from. At someone's display, I saw the Rudel stuka parked next to the Me110, and my head kept turning to the Me (and like most I'm a big Stuka fan). This Stuka equals the 110 imo and would look great parked next to it in a display.
 
I was probably referring to the Desert 110 but the Winter is fantastic as well. Very well made and a great addition, not to mention affordable.

Figarti also made four or five years ago a B 17 that was quite amazing and very affordable compared to the K & C version. Unfortunately, they're out of production.

Every airplane that Figarti has made has been fantastic. This is not to say there haven't been delivery issues but they seem a bit more pronounced with the Stuka, which apparently is a hard plane to make; JJ gave up the effort and K & C hasn't brought one to market yet. Give them credit for trying.

Too bad the Sturmovik never made it into production. It was a fantastic looking model.
 
jazzeum said:
I was probably referring to the Desert 110 but the Winter is fantastic as well. Very well made and a great addition, not to mention affordable.

Figarti also made four or five years ago a B 17 that was quite amazing and very affordable compared to the K & C version. Unfortunately, they're out of production.

Every airplane that Figarti has made has been fantastic. This is not to say there haven't been delivery issues but they seem a bit more pronounced with the Stuka, which apparently is a hard plane to make; JJ gave up the effort and K & C hasn't brought one to market yet. Give them credit for trying.

Too bad the Sturmovik never made it into production. It was a fantastic looking model.
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Brad,

Couldn`t agree more! From Figarti I have the winter 110, the Owl, the Rudel Stuka, the P-38 and the B-17 (awesome, worth every penny). They are all fantastic models and right priced. So far nothing will prevent me from buying a Figarti plane release, and I just hope they keep coming! This winter Stuka is on its way to the southern hemisphere, and I`m happy Figarti made it, won`t change a thing if I have to glue its landing gear...
I`m rooting for Figarti change its mind and release the Sturmovik (I wouldn`t mind gluing its gears either...). With all this new focus on the eastern front by the major WWII TS producers, and by Figarti`s record of detail and pricing, I`m sure there would be a market for a 100 run of these iconic birds! I know this was already debated some time ago in the Forum, but who knows 2013 isn`t the moment to launch the IL-2 in time for the Chicago show?
 
Any chance you could post photos of the B 17?

Would love to see the Sturmovik.

Brad
 
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for me the best thing they made has been the Owl. After recently swapping all of the figarti its the only thing I feel is worth keeping. They peaked with this for me and, looking at the others of which I only had the ME110 winter but, mine as with others was not free from issues. The decals did not meet at the front which, was really bad and stood out like the proverbial sore thumb. Happy with what I got for the Figarti sets but, each to their own.
Mitch

Blowtorch said:
iirc, Jazz made a comment lauding the winter Me 110 as the finest plane Figarti has done, and if I'm quoting him correctly, I can see where he is coming from. At someone's display, I saw the Rudel stuka parked next to the Me110, and my head kept turning to the Me (and like most I'm a big Stuka fan). This Stuka equals the 110 imo and would look great parked next to it in a display.
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Maybe yours was an isolated case but I didn't see any issue with decals. In addition, to say that they peaked is rather strong, particularly since we don't know what they will be issuing in the future.
 
Brad..

I have seen several peoples that don't match up so, no its not an isolated case. from memory I believe the promo release pictures were the same. Two have just sold on e-bayUK that had the same issue when you looked. Wayne just got one and, I am sure his is the same from Pics he sent me and, if I needed I could mention a few more. The Owl was top notch and, since I have felt they have not kept to that standard. Mind I have only bought the Winter ME110 but, I have seen all the aircraft released in person including the silver version of the lightning that was spoilt by the owner not wearing the gloves. Admittedly, his fault but, a strange way to design an aircraft.

I know your allegiance to Figarti but, that's my opinion on what they have released and, if they manage to release something in the future that's better then I will say so. The stuka's manufacturing wise (as look they were rather nice) were not the best and yours went walkies rather quickly so, I am not sure my comments really are strong honest in how I feel but, not strong.
Mitch

jazzeum said:
Maybe yours was an isolated case but I didn't see any issue with decals. In addition, to say that they peaked is rather strong, particularly since we don't know what they will be issuing in the future.
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Mitch,

My comment about yours being strong were in relation to that they "peaked." Perhaps if the Winter Stuka was the last plane they ever made, you could make that argument but since they may make more, there is no logical way of knowing if they have peaked or not.

From what I have read, everyone seemed to have gotten excited about the magnet situation but it seems like it was a bit more ballyhooed than it really was. I will take a look at one of these at the NJ Show on Sunday.
 
Brad...

Based upon what they have released then I would say in terms of design and quality the Owl is the best thing they have done. As far as magnets go I only commented because I was actually sent one to sort out but, it was obvious it could cause issues when they were mentioned at the last UK show they had magnets. I am not however a fan of what I see as gimmicky or model imports to the hobby. Some say its a strive for detail etc but, recoiling barrels, moving blades on Helicopters and magnets to hold carriages and bombs on (Not really an import from the model world) are superfluous to my needs in a display model.

I am not sure if the magnet issue is ballyhoo as we have only heard from a small number of people I know a few Neil knows one and, we have heard of a couple on here that the magnets caused issue. When you have such a small number of releases as Figarti do we are easily reaching 10% so, that's a concern not really ballyhoo. I still cannot see given the packaging figarti use how fixed undercarriages would have been so problematic for the second stuka to be fixed in place without magnets the packaging is similar in nature to the K&C wooden aircraft and, I have not heard anyone I know with these have transit issues
Mitch

jazzeum said:
Mitch,

My comment about yours being strong were in relation to that they "peaked." Perhaps if the Winter Stuka was the last plane they ever made, you could make that argument but since they may make more, there is no logical way of knowing if they have peaked or not.

From what I have read, everyone seemed to have gotten excited about the magnet situation but it seems like it was a bit more ballyhooed than it really was. I will take a look at one of these at the NJ Show on Sunday.
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I was not thrilled with magnets on the landing gear of the Winter Stuka...Problem solved with 2 Ton Epoxy....Best idea for landing gear.....Magnets????....No....But with some adjustments Figarti can get around this problem easily......But in all other regards it is one of their best planes.....I exspect more excellent WWII aircraft from Figarti....They have NOT reached their peak IMO....They will only get better from this learning experience. For some time now they have been excelling in WWII Aircraft.....Bravo Figarti....Keep up the good work...I'm Still on Board.
 
Sorry, didn't mean to open a can of worms.

Regarding the packaging Figarti uses being similar to K & C's wooden planes, one, I don't believe it is, based on the first Stuka they made from last year; and two, even if the packaging is the same, the time frames for delivery are vastly different. K & C ships its wooden planes by Fed Ex overnight (at least they used to; haven't purchased one in a couple of years) which reduces chances for damage. Figarti, for US customers, ships it sea freight, which takes a few weeks, and then it has to be re-delivered by Matt to dealers and then dealers to you. The chances for damage are thus heightened.
 
jazzeum said:
Sorry, didn't mean to open a can of worms.

Regarding the packaging Figarti uses being similar to K & C's wooden planes, one, I don't believe it is, based on the first Stuka they made from last year; and two, even if the packaging is the same, the time frames for delivery are vastly different. K & C ships its wooden planes by Fed Ex overnight (at least they used to; haven't purchased one in a couple of years) which reduces chances for damage. Figarti, for US customers, ships it sea freight, which takes a few weeks, and then it has to be re-delivered by Matt to dealers and then dealers to you. The chances for damage are thus heightened.
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I don't why Kc Stuka got anything to do with this thread , first it cost about three times more than the Figarti one where as the Figarti is a run of one hundred and a lot cheaper .fair play for Figarti for making one at a fair price {bravo}}:redface2
 
It doesn't but it was mentioned in comparison with respect to the Figarti Stuka and then a further comparison was made to K & C's packaging so I thought I would add a little explanation :smile2:
 
Neil...

It was obvious it would be brought up as they are the only two companies who have made them. I don't see the comparison myself in anyway as they are completely different. I would have thought it would have been better to compare Figarti to a kit myself as they are similar in mediums but, even that has its limitations.

I think you can only discuss the figarti one in a pro's and con's which has been done
Mitch

uksubs said:
I don't why Kc Stuka got anything to do with this thread , first it cost about three times more than the Figarti one where as the Figarti is a run of one hundred and a lot cheaper .fair play for Figarti for making one at a fair price {bravo}}:redface2
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Vezzolf said:
I was not thrilled with magnets on the landing gear of the Winter Stuka...Problem solved with 2 Ton Epoxy....Best idea for landing gear.....Magnets????....No....But with some adjustments Figarti can get around this problem easily......But in all other regards it is one of their best planes.....I exspect more excellent WWII aircraft from Figarti....They have NOT reached their peak IMO....They will only get better from this learning experience. For some time now they have been excelling in WWII Aircraft.....Bravo Figarti....Keep up the good work...I'm Still on Board.
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Again Frank glad it all worked out, and I agree with you and Brad that Figarti has some great planes, as well as thier vehicles, don't let some others opinion choose what you should or shouldn't buy because of something they see is right or wrong...Sammy
 
jazzeum said:
Sorry, didn't mean to open a can of worms.

Regarding the packaging Figarti uses being similar to K & C's wooden planes, one, I don't believe it is, based on the first Stuka they made from last year; and two, even if the packaging is the same, the time frames for delivery are vastly different. K & C ships its wooden planes by Fed Ex overnight (at least they used to; haven't purchased one in a couple of years) which reduces chances for damage. Figarti, for US customers, ships it sea freight, which takes a few weeks, and then it has to be re-delivered by Matt to dealers and then dealers to you. The chances for damage are thus heightened.
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They still do, I purchased a yellow nose Stuka and it came FED EX with no issues.
 
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