Stuka (1 Viewer)

[Blowtorch]

Before anyone takes another step closer to the glue bottle, spend some time with the fitting first.

Here's my experience: when the magnets were in & out, there was one landing gear that fit well in one well (starboard side) and just OK in the port side. The other landing gear was OK in the starboard side & not good at all in the port side. Looking at the two landing gear, I could see differences in the oval shape at top (that fits into the wing well) which tells me there were multiple castings of the landing gear, and some people are going to be getting better fits than others. It's going to be random.

As a test with your magnets in, turn the plane upside down and put try each landing gear in each well. When the gear is in the well, tap it to make it tip over, & see how easily it rights itself upright again & snaps into position. If if snaps back into place smartly, you have a good match. If not, take a file & start filing off resin to get a better fit before you commit to glue. For my bad gear, I had to take off resin on the rear half of the oval. That is if front is 12 o'clock, I filed from 9-6-3 o'clock to get a smoother fit, flattening out 6 o'clock considerably as it was quite pointy. It's about 90% as good as my other gear fit with it's respective starboard wing now

 

[Blowtorch]

With all this focus on the landing gear, I never paid attention to the drop tanks. Mine are different. Tanks are the same, but the mounts are two different sculpts. Supposed to be that way? Or do I have a secret Luftwaffe 'prototype'?

 

[uksubs]

Any chance of seeing some photos of the Stuka ?

 

[Blowtorch]

Any chance of seeing some photos of the Stuka ?

I think everyone's glue is setting right now^&grin

 

[Mitch]

Neil...

I took a few but, it was a fiddly job and I was not able to take as many as I would have liked nor, I am sure some on here would have liked to see. Not sure if a magnet with a hole in it is helpful or interesting or a hole where one used to be??

Without it sounding like a witch hunt and having the mods PM box contain complaints (look what Mitch is saying!!!) I am quite surprised that nothing has been said from Figarti???? surely, they know collectors are having issues with a high ticket priced item that's not transport damage et al but, down to the way they manufacturer. surely, they should be saying something or, making some gesture to the clearly affected customers? I know Matt as a distributor has said about gluing the parts on but, that's not really helpful when people are spending huge amounts of cash on a made item not, a kit.

I know I have only seen one heard of a few here and, know of two in the UK and one in Europe that's causing problems so, it may be only 10% or less but, its a big amount when you make less than 100. I also know that some collectors are just putting up with it and don't want to do anything that would be seen as detracting from future sale value (though, that's a bird that may have flown!!)
Mitch

 

[King & Country]

Hi Guys,

Elsewhere on the Forum our old chum “VEZZOLF” opined that Figarti had a fine pair of “Cojones” for having produced a “beautiful Stuka”.
I would certainly second that and give them my heartiest congratulations….However by the same reckoning perhaps Mr. V will also award at least two pairs of similarly shaped spheres to K&C for having produced four-engined Lancasters, B17’s and Halifaxes…What d’you guys reckon…?And please be frank about this.

Best wishes and happy flying!

Andy C.​

 

[waynepoo]

Hi Guys,

Elsewhere on the Forum our old chum “VEZZOLF” opined that Figarti had a fine pair of “Cojones” for having produced a “beautiful Stuka”.
I would certainly second that and give them my heartiest congratulations….However by the same reckoning perhaps Mr. V will also award at least two pairs of similarly shaped spheres to K&C for having produced four-engined Lancasters, B17’s and Halifaxes…What d’you guys reckon…?And please be frank about this.

Best wishes and happy flying!

Andy C.​

Ha, onya Andy as we know 'King and Country rules' frankly......:wink2:^&grin
Wayne.

 

[PanzerAce1944]

Hi Guys,

Elsewhere on the Forum our old chum “VEZZOLF” opined that Figarti had a fine pair of “Cojones” for having produced a “beautiful Stuka”.
I would certainly second that and give them my heartiest congratulations….However by the same reckoning perhaps Mr. V will also award at least two pairs of similarly shaped spheres to K&C for having produced four-engined Lancasters, B17’s and Halifaxes…What d’you guys reckon…?And please be frank about this.

Best wishes and happy flying!

Andy C.​

{sm3} {sm3} {sm3} {sm3} {sm3} ^&grin

 

[wayne556517]

Hi Guys,

Elsewhere on the Forum our old chum “VEZZOLF” opined that Figarti had a fine pair of “Cojones” for having produced a “beautiful Stuka”.
I would certainly second that and give them my heartiest congratulations….However by the same reckoning perhaps Mr. V will also award at least two pairs of similarly shaped spheres to K&C for having produced four-engined Lancasters, B17’s and Halifaxes…What d’you guys reckon…?And please be frank about this.

Best wishes and happy flying!

Andy C.​

Maybe First legion will make a STUKA at a cool 1K,that would be resonable going on there prices......................^&grin

 

[jazzeum]

Maybe First legion will make a STUKA at a cool 1K,that would be resonable going on there prices......................^&grin

Where is the dislike button?

 

[Vezzolf]

Hi Guys,

Elsewhere on the Forum our old chum “VEZZOLF” opined that Figarti had a fine pair of “Cojones” for having produced a “beautiful Stuka”.
I would certainly second that and give them my heartiest congratulations….However by the same reckoning perhaps Mr. V will also award at least two pairs of similarly shaped spheres to K&C for having produced four-engined Lancasters, B17’s and Halifaxes…What d’you guys reckon…?And please be frank about this.

Best wishes and happy flying!

Andy C.​

Well Mr. Andy...I would not know wether or not K/C has "Cojones":wink2:....I'm sure your Lancasters, B-17's and Halifaxes are good efforts... And some collectors might even be able to afford them:wink2:.....but for me they seem too toy-like especially in regards to the paint and detail....I believe they are carved renditions made of wood if I am not mistaken....Are they not??.....Much Easier to get excellent detail in a resin model and more affordable for collectors....KUDOS to Figarti for using resin.... To be completely fair I have never actually seen one of your "wood models" in the flesh. Anyway I think that Figarti is making some of the best and most affordable WWII aircraft available today in 1:30th scale but then again that is just my opinion.... Best Regards from your old chum.^&cool

 

[Mitch]

This is turning into a Viz comic sketch in front of my eyes. Mr Gonads is alive and well on TF. who has the most unfeasibly large ones!!LOL Its all a bit pointless really!! This is about Figarti and some manufacturing issues which, are not being addressed and, kind of being overlooked by collectors because the other detail etc is good (in their opinions) It does not matter that they had the gonads to make it I personally would rather they had not if they don't make it correctly and collectors have to make botch jobs and make do's to make the thing stand. Kind of fundamental that a Stuka stands would we not agree??

I think from looking at the items K&C make they ensure that as little is able to break etc as they can. The last piece, to be fair I remember having issues of damage was the Flak 41 which, was actually down to over packing.

I think rather than turn it into some manufacturer V another the issues here should be addressed and not glossed over to then use against another company who may or may not do a Stuka.
Mitch

 

[Phantom Warrior]

This is turning into a Viz comic sketch in front of my eyes. Mr Gonads is alive and well on TF. who has the most unfeasibly large ones!!LOL Its all a bit pointless really!! This is about Figarti and some manufacturing issues which, are not being addressed and, kind of being overlooked by collectors because the other detail etc is good (in their opinions) It does not matter that they had the gonads to make it I personally would rather they had not if they don't make it correctly and collectors have to make botch jobs and make do's to make the thing stand. Kind of fundamental that a Stuka stands would we not agree??

I think from looking at the items K&C make they ensure that as little is able to break etc as they can. The last piece, to be fair I remember having issues of damage was the Flak 41 which, was actually down to over packing.

I think rather than turn it into some manufacturer V another the issues here should be addressed and not glossed over to then use against another company who may or may not do a Stuka.
Mitch

This reminds me of the reaction to the K&C tail sitting Me262 - K&C took a lot of flak for that one. If I had one of the Stukas, It would have been returned - I woulddn't be able to fix it nor would I want to try.

Terry

 

[Vezzolf]

Maybe First legion will make a STUKA at a cool 1K,that would be resonable going on there prices......................^&grin

Wayne...Good one...You are indeed a funny guy{sm4}...But even if FL produced a 1K Stuka, it would surely be about 2K less then a K/C wood aircraft{eek3}^&grin^&grin^&grin....Figarti Rules the Skies at this point in time.:wink2:

 

[Mitch]

Terry...

They did indeed take flak for it and, I suspect Andy would agree that collectors should be peeved when things like this happen (though probably not out loud!!). To say well, at least they have the large round things to make one even though its a perfectly fair statement contradicts the fact that they did not do it right.

whilst I see, and find strange, some migrating south to support Andy??? it does seem that we can give untold stick to one manufacturer but, not to others when they ''Foxtrot uniform''?? but, lets not have FL or Figarti, CS, TG, Britain's brought to heel for their mistakes, manufacturing defects and historical innacuracies.

Please note as many manufacturers as I could be bothered to mention were included to make it fair. N.B. My apologies any manufacturer who makes errors and such like that I omitted. This was done in error not slanted bias.
Mitch

This reminds me of the reaction to the K&C tail sitting Me262 - K&C took a lot of flak for that one. If I had one of the Stukas, It would have been returned - I woulddn't be able to fix it nor would I want to try.

Terry

 

[jazzeum]

I'm not going to take sides here since I don't have the Stuka but I do have the Figarti Desert Me 110 and it's a fantastic plane. I also have about 10 of the K & C wooden War Birds and there is nothing finer. They are fantastic museum quality pieces. In fact, I just picked up the K & C Stuka through eBay and glad I have it.

So, I don't need see the need to start Monday off with a bang by saying which is better and head down the road where we have to give Pete and his crew heartburn. The planes that both companies make are both fantastic (think I've used that word enough in a post already{eek3}).

Carry on.

 

[Vezzolf]

Brad can we see a picture of that K/C wood Stuka???....I would love to see how it matches up to the Figarti Stuka both in quality,paint, detail, and of course price.

 

[Phantom Warrior]

I'm not going to take sides here since I don't have the Stuka but I do have the Figarti Desert Me 110 and it's a fantastic plane. I also have about 10 of the K & C wooden War Birds and there is nothing finer. They are fantastic museum quality pieces. In fact, I just picked up the K & C Stuka through eBay and glad I have it.

So, I don't need see the need to start Monday off with a bang by saying which is better and head down the road where we have to give Pete and his crew heartburn. The planes that both companies make are both fantastic (think I've used that word enough in a post already{eek3}).

Carry on.

The question is not about whether or not the aircraft models are fantastic. It's about design flaws and/or production flaws on what are very expensive aircraft models, be they from Figarti, K&C, JJD, TGM or anyone else. And it's about how the manufacturer handles the problem.

Terry

 

[The Military Workshop]

Well Mr. Andy...I would not know wether or not K/C has "Cojones":wink2:....I'm sure your Lancasters, B-17's and Halifaxes are good efforts... And some collectors might even be able to afford them:wink2:.....but for me they seem too toy-like especially in regards to the paint and detail....I believe they are carved renditions made of wood if I am not mistaken....Are they not??.....Much Easier to get excellent detail in a resin model and more affordable for collectors....KUDOS to Figarti for using resin.... To be completely fair I have never actually seen one of your "wood models" in the flesh. Anyway I think that Figarti is making some of the best and most affordable WWII aircraft available today in 1:30th scale but then again that is just my opinion.... Best Regards from your old chum.^&cool

Just a few observations Frank. Re-read your first comments on this subject at post 16. You were clearly not happy. Does not quite fit with your subsequent views in this thread.

If you also read the thread on the first Stuka you will see you made multiple negative comments about it based on others feedback. Classic case of foot in mouth as fortunately for you yours arrived OK after you had made all those comments.

Personally from all the comments I have seen about Stukas I am not surprised the two other brands, K&C and JJ, did not go ahead with them. Nothing to do with balls but a wise business decision on their part. They were both happy to let Figarti have the Stuka market in view of the technical difficulties and risk factors. I am sure neither begrudge Figarti their Stuka sales.

Using the Stuka to support your view that Figarti "rules the skies" is more your usual way of saying anybody but K&C.

Just my opinion.

Regards
Brett

 

[jazzeum]

The question is not about whether or not the aircraft models are fantastic. It's about design flaws and/or production flaws on what are very expensive aircraft models, be they from Figarti, K&C, JJD, TGM or anyone else. And it's about how the manufacturer handles the problem.

Terry

I'm afraid you have it wrong. Frank's rebuttal in response to Andy's comment had nothing to do with design flaws but emphasized detailing, painting and price. Don't try to push an issue where none has been raised this morning.