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[Louis Badolato]

Hi Johnny,

Well done it appears you've got your wish. I'm afraid I took a little holiday today and went to London to see "Jethro Tull" in concert and before retiring for the night , or should I say the morning I thought I would check the thread to see how things were progressing.

I am now going to put the cat amongst the pidgeons.

Mountford Metal Miniatures made the emergency mobile canteen which was built on a Humber car chasis. I have found examples on a Fordson (English Ford) van chasis and the Austin K2. Which one would you like?.......No, you can't have all three! Whichever one you choose it will be made by Dave Love (Mountford Metal Miniatures) and he was quoting 16 weeks from planning to finished master. I say was because he is currently in the States on hols and won't be back for another week.

Now before he went he let me have some of the assenbled and painted models from his old range which I am selling at the shows at casting prices or cheaper. He also told me that he has found some more which he will let me have when he returns. So if you are still interested in his old stuff and don't mind stripping and repainting let me know what you are interested in. No the mobile canteen is not among the items I have currently got and at the moment I have no idea what else he has found.

Regards,

Brian.

I vote for the Austin K2, but I will be happy with whichever version you choose to produce.:smile2:

 

[johnnybach]

Hi Brian - Firstly - hope you enjoyed your night out with Jethro - and you've stopped laughing. A funny guy.

Now then - decisions, decisions. Thanks for agreeing - and involving Dave Love. Was this the one he made? It's the Fordson version, of course, in yet another livery, this time YMCA - and a really neat looking little model.

I don't think that I have ever seen the Humber version - but I have been showing the Austin K2 - most of the way through this thread - so won't bother to reproduce that particular model.

As there will be five of us ordering the six models (so far) - I think I will defer to the majority vote on the final choice - as I wouldn't be getting one at all, but for my amigos. There's the Fordson (which I'm thinking might be a smallish model) - and you have seen the Austin K2. Louis has gone for 2 votes for the K2. So whaddya want guys - I will go along with the majority vote - though if it's a stalemate - either of these two will be okay by me.

As to the other items you mention Brian - I always wanted a Gatling Gun from Mountford - but could never get hold of one, as they had sold off the master. If there's a casting version lurking in some dark corner - Bung my name on it please.

Thanks again Brian - you're a Star - and a shining example to some of the larger boys - who aren't always so customer friendly.

No sugar for me, by the way!{sm4}

 

[aujj65]

Hi Brian - Firstly - hope you enjoyed your night out with Jethro - and you've stopped laughing. A funny guy.

{sm4}

Hi JB,

I expect you know this but Jethro Tull are a British rock group! :wink2:

Anyhow I will be looking forward to your painting thread when you get your set of castings. :smile2:

Jeff

 

[yeoman]

Hi Johnny,

Yes I agree that Jethro is a funny guy but I went to see "Jethro Tull" rocking since 1968. Ian Anderson on flute, Martin Barre on lead guitar, Doane Perry on drums etc. and yes they were great.

The model you posted I believe is the Accurate Armour's model which comes it at nearl £100.00 for a resin kit. They don't do an assembled and painted version. I have done some more research and it would appear that the NAAFI badge you posted was post-WW2 one. The earlier badge was somewhat simplified. Anothe intersesting fact is that all male personnel of the NAAFI were RAMC and all female personnel were WRAC. This is, of couse up to the time the MOD started amalgamating and disbanding units.

I think that the Austin K2 will probably be the favourite for the one to pick as the others have been done before. We'll see.

Regards,

Brian.

Hi Brian - Firstly - hope you enjoyed your night out with Jethro - and you've stopped laughing. A funny guy.

Now then - decisions, decisions. Thanks for agreeing - and involving Dave Love. Was this the one he made? It's the Fordson version, of course, in yet another livery, this time YMCA - and a really neat looking little model.

I don't think that I have ever seen the Humber version - but I have been showing the Austin K2 - most of the way through this thread - so won't bother to reproduce that particular model.

As there will be five of us ordering the six models (so far) - I think I will defer to the majority vote on the final choice - as I wouldn't be getting one at all, but for my amigos. There's the Fordson (which I'm thinking might be a smallish model) - and you have seen the Austin K2. Louis has gone for 2 votes for the K2. So whaddya want guys - I will go along with the majority vote - though if it's a stalemate - either of these two will be okay by me.

As to the other items you mention Brian - I always wanted a Gatling Gun from Mountford - but could never get hold of one, as they had sold off the master. If there's a casting version lurking in some dark corner - Bung my name on it please.

Thanks again Brian - you're a Star - and a shining example to some of the larger boys - who aren't always so customer friendly.

No sugar for me, by the way!{sm4}

 

[yeoman]

Hi Johnny,

Having done some futher research I have discovered that during WW2 mobile Canteens were used by the YMCA, The Salvation Army, The Church Army and the NAFFI. In UK the YMCA's vans were generally Khaki, the Salvation Army's khaki or dark blue and the NAAFI's khaki or grey or even a blue/grey. I have not found any pictures of the Chuch Army vans so I can only speculate on the colour. NAAFI mobile canteens appear to be the only ones that were sent abroad but information on these vans is scarce. The Middle East is the only other place I have found any of them and they are few and far between and in black and white.

There are five of these mobile canteens still in existence today and all are painted in shades of grey. I'm afraid the logo you posted for the NAAFI is their 90th Anniversary logo and since they were formed in 1921 this makes it a modern logo on a restored vehicle. However I have been able to trace the logos used by the organisations named above during WW2 and they are commercially available as decals. I am attaching examples to this post.

Regards,

Brian.

Hi Johnny,

Yes I agree that Jethro is a funny guy but I went to see "Jethro Tull" rocking since 1968. Ian Anderson on flute, Martin Barre on lead guitar, Doane Perry on drums etc. and yes they were great.

The model you posted I believe is the Accurate Armour's model which comes it at nearl £100.00 for a resin kit. They don't do an assembled and painted version. I have done some more research and it would appear that the NAAFI badge you posted was post-WW2 one. The earlier badge was somewhat simplified. Anothe intersesting fact is that all male personnel of the NAAFI were RAMC and all female personnel were WRAC. This is, of couse up to the time the MOD started amalgamating and disbanding units.

I think that the Austin K2 will probably be the favourite for the one to pick as the others have been done before. We'll see.

Regards,

Brian.

 

[johnnybach]

Ooops! - wrong Jethro then. Oops! - wrong badge then. Ooops! - wrong model then (didn't look at all at the maker when I found the pic online).{eek3}

I do agree Brian, that in the absence of any major objections - the Austin K2 looks like it would be a fine model to choose - and I certainly wouldn't object to that. Do you have any ideas on what year(s) to choose for it? I always try and choose a year when making something up - as it the helps to fix in the mind, all of the other features that will need to be taken into consideration - like what garments the Naafi personell and customers would have been wearing, the colour of the vehicle and decals used perhaps?

Not too important for me though, as with a casting version, I will have a wider choice available. I would like to go for a sixties feel for mine (hence choice of badge) - as that was when I first met - and used - the services of "The Naafi Wagon" - as we all called it at that time. My first affair with her was in Germany, around 1962 - so that's what I will be trying to reproduce, if I can. I must admit that I didn't take much note of the vehicle make/model - as I was much more interested in the tea and buns (and maybe the Naafi gal too!). If you're going to make the time period earlier - say, during WW2, or even Korea maybe - (as by and large, that conflict never gets much exposure) - then that's fine by me too.:smile2:

Over to you my good friend, I couldn't be more pleased - with many thanks - and looking forward to more details - as and when you and Dave proceed further with the project. Hope the other guys interested (thank you all too chaps for making it possible), will make their thoughts known too. All the best, johnnybach

Off to watch the Heineken Cup Rugby now - see you later.

Just spotted your newly posted logo - and the Naafi one on the right looks perfect. jb

 

[Buster]

Hi Johnny,

Having done some futher research I have discovered that during WW2 mobile Canteens were used by the YMCA, The Salvation Army, The Church Army and the NAFFI. In UK the YMCA's vans were generally Khaki, the Salvation Army's khaki or dark blue and the NAAFI's khaki or grey or even a blue/grey. I have not found any pictures of the Chuch Army vans so I can only speculate on the colour. NAAFI mobile canteens appear to be the only ones that were sent abroad but information on these vans is scarce. The Middle East is the only other place I have found any of them and they are few and far between and in black and white.

There are five of these mobile canteens still in existence today and all are painted in shades of grey. I'm afraid the logo you posted for the NAAFI is their 90th Anniversary logo and since they were formed in 1921 this makes it a modern logo on a restored vehicle. However I have been able to trace the logos used by the organisations named above during WW2 and they are commercially available as decals. I am attaching examples to this post.

Regards,

Brian.View attachment 92386

Here ya go Brian, a Fordson E83W I believe ..... not a bad choice, but I'll go with a majority decision whatever it may be.^&grin

B.

 

[tdubel]

I vote the AUstin but would like any of them. Louis told me I had too.................


TD

 

[yeoman]

Hi Buster,
I like the picture of the Fordson and although in black and white there seems to be a hint of camoflage there. Anyway I must admit that I am, personally drawn to the Austin K2 only because it could lead to the ambulance version, sort of "Ice Cold in Alex". We'll see what transpires.

Regards,

Brian.

Here ya go Brian, a Fordson E83W I believe ..... not a bad choice, but I'll go with a majority decision whatever it may be.^&grin

B.

 

[trooper]

Johnny, the Humber mobile canteen by Dave Love shown here can now be obtained from Asset. Trooper

 

[johnnybach]

I love Anne and Col to bits - but I do wish they would keep their on-line catalogue up to date!:smile2:

That long bonnet reminds me of the 3-ton Commer, which was one of the vehicles that I passed my driving test in. The other two were an Austin Champ, and a BSA M50 motor-bike. In the Sigs at that time - you were required to be able to ride a motor-bike too - because of a Dispatch Rider requirement.

Looks like I might be building up a Naafi Wagon collection in the future. Are they Civil Defence bods lounging about? I like the guy enjoying a smoke and a brew - do they come with the set?jb

 

[johnnybach]

I think that this subject is beginning to get a grip on me - as I can't seem to stop finding other interesting mobile Canteen pictures for my ever-growing collection.

Here's an unusual one from the Salvation Army - with a definite camo-job - and based on an Austin ten.

Next one that I found, is of another Salvation Army Mobile canteen - but based on a Wolsey car

And lastly, just to show that we didn't have a monopoly on them - this Dutch example is based on a bedford OXD 30cwt truck.

I quite like the thought about the "Ice Cold in Alex" Ambulance too Brian. keep us posted with developments - I think you might have a few more orders for that one.

What an interesting thread this has turned out to be - if you like doughnuts, of course. johnnybach

 

[Buster]

Here's the YMCA version of the E83W, does it appear that I might be lobbying for a Fordson, :tongue: well anyway, the sign on side of the truck reads "Tea revives you" ..... oh really? ^&grin

jb, is that you in that picture? ^&cool

B.

 

[Louis Badolato]

I had dinner with Tim Tyler of Troops of Time this evening, told him about the mobile canteens, and he is in for one as well.:wink2:

 

[johnnybach]

Here's the YMCA version of the E83W, does it appear that I might be lobbying for a Fordson, :tongue: well anyway, the sign on side of the truck reads "Tea revives you" ..... oh really? ^&grin

jb, is that you in that picture? ^&cool

B.

Nah! Can't be me M'lud. (a) Never saw that model, (b) He's not wearing boots and putees, shorts and a bush hat - and he's got a shirt on! (c) he needs at least three hair cuts, (d) I was never in the YMCA or used Brylcream - and (e) he looks remarkably like a goldurn civvy - as he's not humping any iron! (We had to carry rifles "everywhere" - as to be caught without one was instant 252. Very inconvenient in a mobile bath, by the way!).

Have you ever tried climbing a pole - or even digging a hole with a rifle slung around you? God knows why - they wouldn't issue us with any ammo - too dangerous. You bet it was - I'd have shot the first idiot who came up and demanded to know why I was halfway up a pole without it?

Just some of the fun and games we got up to in 1962! Been addicted to tea ever since. Doughnut anybody?

P.S. Does Tim know that he's now 007 Louis?

 

[Buster]

Nah! Can't be me M'lud. (a) Never saw that model, (b) He's not wearing boots and putees, shorts and a bush hat - and he's got a shirt on! (c) he needs at least three hair cuts, (d) I was never in the YMCA or used Brylcream - and (e) he looks remarkably like a goldurn civvy - as he's not humping any iron! (We had to carry rifles "everywhere" - as to be caught without one was instant 252. Very inconvenient in a mobile bath, by the way!).

Have you ever tried climbing a pole - or even digging a hole with a rifle slung around you? God knows why - they wouldn't issue us with any ammo - too dangerous. You bet it was - I'd have shot the first idiot who came up and demanded to know why I was halfway up a pole without it?

Just some of the fun and games we got up to in 1962! Been addicted to tea ever since. Doughnut anybody?

P.S. Does Tim know that he's now 007 Louis?

^&grin Phew jb, a simple "yes" or "no" would have sufficed. :tongue:

Never used Brylcream ..... not buying that one for minute! :rolleyes2:

B.:salute::

 

[yeoman]

Hi Johnny,

Amongst the items Dave let me have I have several sets of the figures that went with the Humber Canteen, They are painted but that doesn't matter! Want to make me an offer? Remember though the figures are slightly larger than 54mm.

Regards,

Brian.

I love Anne and Col to bits - but I do wish they would keep their on-line catalogue up to date!:smile2:

That long bonnet reminds me of the 3-ton Commer, which was one of the vehicles that I passed my driving test in. The other two were an Austin Champ, and a BSA M50 motor-bike. In the Sigs at that time - you were required to be able to ride a motor-bike too - because of a Dispatch Rider requirement.

Looks like I might be building up a Naafi Wagon collection in the future. Are they Civil Defence bods lounging about? I like the guy enjoying a smoke and a brew - do they come with the set?jb

 

[johnnybach]

Are we talking about these four figures Brian? They look a bit like Civil Defence guys - probably wearing boiler suits - or is it the old BD?

Well, as I will probably be getting this vehicle at some point (STILL can't see it in the Asset catalogue though - so have no details at all about it), they will fit in with that item alright. Okay, I'll make you an offer - just let me know how many doughnuts they will cost - and I'll have 'em to re-paint. My daughter is back in the UK now - so you will be able to send them there. Do you have the vehicle as well? jb

 

[trooper]

[/B] The figures are two ARP, one AFS and one policeman. Trooper[/B]

 

[johnnybach]

Ah! - NOW I get it - so it's a wartime scene then, during WW2? The ARP's are Air Raid Precaution Volunteers then (You rarely see these in films - just hear "Put that ruddy light out!"). As there are two of these, I assume these would have the white helmets on? [I must pay more attention to episodes of "Dad's Army"!]

So the AFS one is from the Auxilliary Fire Service - and presumably he's the one wearing the wellies and getting served - and the Policeman is almost obscured - but must be the one wearing the dark tin helmet at the far end. Is that right?

Sorry for the errors - but being just a callow youth - I almost missed that conflict - just catching the tail end of it - so can't remember, first hand, seeing anyone dressed like that. Is there also any figure inside the Canteen serving - picture is a bit fuzzy there?

You see, I CAN remember the Civil Defence bods - as some of them used to practice on a site near where I lived as a lad during the 1950's. As , we often used to see them (from afar) practicing getting other volunteers, acting as casualties, out of "damaged" buildings - so without the above info - assumed that's what they were.

Any ideas on who originally sculpted the figures - was it Dave Love? A nice little grouping that one.

Whadda mistaka I maka! Thanks for the clarification, Trooper. johnnybach