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[Panzer ace]

The coming winter.

Summer and spring are overrated.

 

[Combat]

I disagree, it is misguided government interference into young people's lives, a better plan would be to educate young people with techniques to help them cope with 'offensive' influences in their social interactions.

Think back to when you guys were 15, would you have wanted the 'government' to interfer with your personal life? They will just find ways to get around the 'ban', making the situation worse.

It's just another example of the increasing 'Nannyfication' of society, harden the ef up, life can be tough, you can't outlaw 'bad things' happening to you.

Meanwhile, the under 16 year old death rate from ebike/escooter accidents increases on a weekly basis. Surprise Surprise, who would have thought scooters capable of 80 Kph would ever be a problem on the roads

The government prohibits children from smoking and buying alcohol. Arguably that is government interference in their lives but the good kind. Drug and alcohol addiction is nothing compared to the addiction to cell phones. Every single kid under the age of 18 that I know or see is on a cell phone. They would stay on them all day absent some parental intervention. It is an addiction. One with profound negative implications for society. At the very least, they should be banned in all schools to give the teachers a fighting chance to teach.

 

[OzDigger]

The government prohibits children from smoking and buying alcohol. Arguably that is government interference in their lives but the good kind. Drug and alcohol addiction is nothing compared to the addiction to cell phones. Every single kid under the age of 18 that I know or see is on a cell phone. They would stay on them all day absent some parental intervention. It is an addiction. One with profound negative implications for society. At the very least, they should be banned in all schools to give the teachers a fighting chance to teach.

Kids using Cell/Mobile phones are just another 'addiction scare', same as earlier 'scares' such as Videos with Violence, Online/Console Games, Majiuana etc that was supposedly going to permanently corrupt the kiddies. Parents see something on the news media that's 'apparently' a threat to their children and then overeact, and of course in the US you have a more Religious Background compared to most of the Western World which seems to exacerbate the situation.

For example in most Western countries people are allowed to Smoke and Drink alcohol from 18 years old, whereas it's 21 in most US states. How is that working out for US 'kids', does that extra Three year ban actually work? And don't forget your 'Prohibition' experiment in the US, that resulted in an increased use of Alcohol, together with more Corruption, more Crime and more Deaths etc.

And let's look at the actual facts, I understand that Cell/Mobile phone use is already banned in most US schools, they certainly are in most Australian states, use them at school and they will be taken from you, so that 'issue' has already been solved.

Rather than implement a blanket government ban on Cell/Mobile phones outside school, just educate kids to moderate their use.

When you make something 'Illegal' it becomes more 'Attractive'.

 

[Combat]

Kids using Cell/Mobile phones are just another 'addiction scare', same as earlier 'scares' such as Videos with Violence, Online/Console Games, Majiuana etc that was supposedly going to permanently corrupt the kiddies. Parents see something on the news media that's 'apparently' a threat to their children and then overeact, and of course in the US you have a more Religious Background compared to most of the Western World which seems to exacerbate the situation.

For example in most Western countries people are allowed to Smoke and Drink alcohol from 18 years old, whereas it's 21 in most US states. How is that working out for US 'kids', does that extra Three year ban actually work? And don't forget your 'Prohibition' experiment in the US, that resulted in an increased use of Alcohol, together with more Corruption, more Crime and more Deaths etc.

And let's look at the actual facts, I understand that Cell/Mobile phone use is already banned in most US schools, they certainly are in most Australian states, use them at school and they will be taken from you, so that 'issue' has already been solved.

Rather than implement a blanket government ban on Cell/Mobile phones outside school, just educate kids to moderate their use.

When you make something 'Illegal' it becomes more 'Attractive'.

You must not have kids. There is no "scare" about this. It is a grim reality easily confirmed. Walk through any public place where there are teenagers and you will see them all staring at their phones. Even if they are in a group. It is like something out of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers." They are under some type of addictive mind control. And that doesn't even get into the content that promotes short attention spans and general idiocy. Everything about it is designed to promote addictive behavior. There is no way for schools to compete.

 

[Warrior]

You must not have kids. There is no "scare" about this. It is a grim reality easily confirmed. Walk through any public place where there are teenagers and you will see them all staring at their phones. Even if they are in a group. It is like something out of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers." They are under some type of addictive mind control. And that doesn't even get into the content that promotes short attention spans and general idiocy. Everything about it is designed to promote addictive behavior. There is no way for schools to compete.

My Sister, one of my cousins and his two daughters came here last night to see the new kittens; the girls played with the kittens for 5 minutes, then both sat on my couch and were glued to their phones for the rest of the night.............then we went to dinner...............and in between bites, they were glued to their phones, between the two of them, they said about 10 words all night long.

When me and my friends wife and her son went to Baltimore to get my two kittens and one for their family, he sat in the back seat and did not say two words down to Baltimore and back, he was glued to his phone the whole time.

These kids do not know how to communicate; anyone who does not see that as a problem is clueless.

 

[OzDigger]

You must not have kids. There is no "scare" about this. It is a grim reality easily confirmed. Walk through any public place where there are teenagers and you will see them all staring at their phones. Even if they are in a group. It is like something out of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers." They are under some type of addictive mind control. And that doesn't even get into the content that promotes short attention spans and general idiocy. Everything about it is designed to promote addictive behavior. There is no way for schools to compete.

My Sister, one of my cousins and his two daughters came here last night to see the new kittens; the girls played with the kittens for 5 minutes, then both sat on my couch and were glued to their phones for the rest of the night.............then we went to dinner...............and in between bites, they were glued to their phones, between the two of them, they said about 10 words all night long.

When me and my friends wife and her son went to Baltimore to get my two kittens and one for their family, he sat in the back seat and did not say two words down to Baltimore and back, he was glued to his phone the whole time.

These kids do not know how to communicate; anyone who does not see that as a problem is clueless.

I have Two sons, both are Teachers in their early 30's, and I'm well aware of the 'overuse' of Mobile Phones by most people, not just children. Haven't you guys noticed that it's not only children that like to engage with their phones rather than talk to people around them. I have plenty of friends around my age that, IMO, spend way too much time using Facebook etc, posting inane (to me) things about their daily experiences, photos of their grandchildren etc. I actually agree with you that most people spend too much time on their phones rather than talk to people around them. My issue is with any Government banning children under 16 accessing their phones in their own time, not only during School hours. That is unfair and unlikely to be effective IMO. I rarely use Facebook etc, but maybe we are the Outsiders, being elderly curmudgeons that don't like using Phones for social interactions, although we do seem to spend too much time on Toy Soldier Forums. Both my Sons have expressed concern about that, not to mention spending their Inheritance on Toys

 

[Horus]

I have Two sons, both are Teachers in their early 30's, and I'm well aware of the 'overuse' of Mobile Phones by most people, not just children. Haven't you guys noticed that it's not only children that like to engage with their phones rather than talk to people around them. I have plenty of friends around my age that, IMO, spend way too much time using Facebook etc, posting inane (to me) things about their daily experiences, photos of their grandchildren etc. I actually agree with you that most people spend too much time on their phones rather than talk to people around them. My issue is with any Government banning children under 16 accessing their phones in their own time, not only during School hours. That is unfair and unlikely to be effective IMO. I rarely use Facebook etc, but maybe we are the Outsiders, being elderly curmudgeons that don't like using Phones for social interactions, although we do seem to spend too much time on Toy Soldier Forums. Both my Sons have expressed concern about that, not to mention spending their Inheritance on Toys

Kids are finding ways around the ban already !

 

[OzDigger]

Kids are finding ways around the ban already !

The current Australian government were foolish to think otherwise. It's only the begining, they will be faking their age, using the 'Family' Ap memberships to access social media, even download the inevitiable new 'social' aps that are not included in this ban. The upside, this ill-conceived ban is likely to turn younger Australians against the current Commie Australian Government that continues to treat Australians like babies.

 

[Terp152]

I have Two sons, both are Teachers in their early 30's, and I'm well aware of the 'overuse' of Mobile Phones by most people, not just children. Haven't you guys noticed that it's not only children that like to engage with their phones rather than talk to people around them. I have plenty of friends around my age that, IMO, spend way too much time using Facebook etc, posting inane (to me) things about their daily experiences, photos of their grandchildren etc. I actually agree with you that most people spend too much time on their phones rather than talk to people around them. My issue is with any Government banning children under 16 accessing their phones in their own time, not only during School hours. That is unfair and unlikely to be effective IMO. I rarely use Facebook etc, but maybe we are the Outsiders, being elderly curmudgeons that don't like using Phones for social interactions, although we do seem to spend too much time on Toy Soldier Forums. Both my Sons have expressed concern about that, not to mention spending their Inheritance on Toys

I don't have a Facebook account although I do occasionally look at my wife's page. And I notice when I send a text to friends they immediately reply as though their phones are glued to their hands.