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jazzeum said:
You neglected to add they won the pennant that year (their only pennnant in St. Louis). They were able to take advantage of a depleted major league, due to WW II.

They had some good players such as Vern Stephens, Al Zarilla and Denny Galehouse. However, by 1946, with the veterans back, they reverted to form.
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There is an interesting story regarding the Browns winning the '44 pennant. During the Battle of the Bulge, when German infiltrators in US uniforms were a threat, security measures taken by US troops included quizzing suspicious individuals on US social aspects, such as sports teams, Hollywood stars, cities, etc. At one checkpoint, the MP asked a suspect who had won the pennant in '44. The suspect answered the question correctly, the Browns. The MP locked him up because the MP KNEW there was no way the lowly Browns could ever win the pennant. The MP took some convincing by other GI's that the Browns had, in fact, won the pennant. Strange, but true. -- Al
 
So who's this new lunkhead outfielder the LET'S GO O's!! signed in the off season Trumbo? More like Dumbo; he was an absolute butcher out in left field yesterday, now tonight he completely lost a fly ball in right that ended up landing in the bullpen, so no big deal, but he looks clueless out there.

Paul Blair he ain't.
 
He was never a good fielder. Angels tried him out in LF and 3B before finally settling on 1B.
 
lancer said:
There is an interesting story regarding the Browns winning the '44 pennant. During the Battle of the Bulge, when German infiltrators in US uniforms were a threat, security measures taken by US troops included quizzing suspicious individuals on US social aspects, such as sports teams, Hollywood stars, cities, etc. At one checkpoint, the MP asked a suspect who had won the pennant in '44. The suspect answered the question correctly, the Browns. The MP locked him up because the MP KNEW there was no way the lowly Browns could ever win the pennant. The MP took some convincing by other GI's that the Browns had, in fact, won the pennant. Strange, but true. -- Al
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You can't blame the MP. They were notorious cellar dwellers.
 
Warrior said:
So who's this new lunkhead outfielder the LET'S GO O's!! signed in the off season Trumbo? More like Dumbo; he was an absolute butcher out in left field yesterday, now tonight he completely lost a fly ball in right that ended up landing in the bullpen, so no big deal, but he looks clueless out there.

Paul Blair he ain't.
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I was puzzled by the Trumbo acquisition, seeing as how Davis has 1st base sewed up. He was a definite offensive get, and hope the defense isn't too much of an issue type thing. He belongs at DH. -- Al
P.S. Offense, as in the 2-run bomb he just hit.
 
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lancer said:
I was puzzled by the Trumbo acquisition, seeing as how Davis has 1st base sewed up. He was a definite offensive get, and hope the defense isn't too much of an issue type thing. He belongs at DH. -- Al
P.S. Offense, as in the 2-run bomb he just hit.
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Similar to when the Orioles signed the other lunkhead who's name escapes me from the Rangers to a one year show me deal; he hit 900 home runs and they stuck him in left field, every fly ball was an adventure.

I guess as long as you can mash, they'll find a place for you............

Boy, these O's remind me a lot of the 1970 team; minus, McNally, Cuellar, Palmer, Robinson, Robinson, Blair, Powell, Johnson and Hendricks.

So other than all of those guys, they look just like them.

Imagine three 20 game winners; 20, 24 and 24 to be exact, just incredible really..................
 
Gebhard said:
Hey Al looks like 7 and 0 :wink2:

and Dumbo's hitting 481
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Go figure. Knew they would hit, but with the pitching going good as well, it's a lot of fun to this point. The O's 7-0 and the Nats are 5-1. The B/W corridor has started 12-1, leaving me with nothing to grouse about. Think I'll just enjoy it while it lasts.^&cool -- Al
 
lancer said:
Go figure. Knew they would hit, but with the pitching going good as well, it's a lot of fun to this point. The O's 7-0 and the Nats are 5-1. The B/W corridor has started 12-1, leaving me with nothing to grouse about. Think I'll just enjoy it while it lasts.^&cool -- Al
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your right Al, so far after 7 cold/blustery games the Orioles have 13 HRs, once the weather really warms up the home runs do as well, so hoping the home run trend will pick up even more once the temps start rising, as far as the 7-0 thing it's fine and dandy but I'm looking at the series wins which now is 3 up and 3 down in favor of the birds, Rangers series up next in Texas, be great to win a few road series for a change after last years disaster...Sammy
 
Warrior said:
Similar to when the Orioles signed the other lunkhead who's name escapes me from the Rangers to a one year show me deal; he hit 900 home runs and they stuck him in left field, every fly ball was an adventure.

I guess as long as you can mash, they'll find a place for you............

Boy, these O's remind me a lot of the 1970 team; minus, McNally, Cuellar, Palmer, Robinson, Robinson, Blair, Powell, Johnson and Hendricks.

So other than all of those guys, they look just like them.

Imagine three 20 game winners; 20, 24 and 24 to be exact, just incredible really..................
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George, the only thing better were the 1971 Os with FOUR 20 game winners! Add Pat Dobson, 20-8, to the list above. :smile2: I still get goose bumps remembering those yrs. :wink2: Chris
 
Terp152 said:
George, the only thing better were the 1971 Os with FOUR 20 game winners! Add Pat Dobson, 20-8, to the list above. :smile2: I still get goose bumps remembering those yrs. :wink2: Chris
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Those were the halcyon days for O's fans. Never saw anyone dominate a WS the way Brooks did in 1970. A fielding magician and a clutch hitter par excellence. Machado is headed that way. Wouldn't mind a reincarnation of Palmer or McNally for the current team, though. :wink2:^&grin -- Al
 
Terp152 said:
George, the only thing better were the 1971 Os with FOUR 20 game winners! Add Pat Dobson, 20-8, to the list above. :smile2: I still get goose bumps remembering those yrs. :wink2: Chris
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Chris,
That is unbelievable; back then, there were no set up men, no closers, no lefty specialists, starters pitched complete games all the time, I don't remember pitchers having arm problems then like they do now when they are babied, so how can anyone explain it?

Four twenty game winnners; yikes................
 
Warrior said:
Chris,
That is unbelievable; back then, there were no set up men, no closers, no lefty specialists, starters pitched complete games all the time, I don't remember pitchers having arm problems then like they do now when they are babied, so how can anyone explain it?

Four twenty game winnners; yikes................
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Agree with you there George, pitch count?, inning count? these guys are babied more now then ever but it seems the word Tommy John surgery or some other ailment pops up every day with pitchers, not sure when or how times changed from a craft that has been around since day 1 of baseball, I'd love to hear someone explain it...Sammy
 
sammy719 said:
Agree with you there George, pitch count?, inning count? these guys are babied more now then ever but it seems the word Tommy John surgery or some other ailment pops up every day with pitchers, not sure when or how times changed from a craft that has been around since day 1 of baseball, I'd love to hear someone explain it...Sammy
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Pitch count. We don't need no stinkin' pitch count. In 1962, Warren Spahn of the Braves faced off against Juan Marichal of the Giants. The results were a 1-0 win for the Giants. The game went 16 innings and both pitchers went the distance. Marichal threw 227 pitches in his 16 inning win, and Spahn threw 201 pitches in the 15.1 innings he threw in the loss. The game was won on a Willie Mays Hr. Pitch count, who needs it? Not real pitchers.:wink2: -- Al
Forgot to mention that Spahn was 42 years old and Marichal 25. It sure didn't hurt Marichal's arm or Spahn's.
 
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It's not pitch count. It's overuse in youth leagues. Kids pitch more in organized leagues than when there was only LL. Their young arms are not developed but they're throwing breaking pitches, not just fastballs. 50 years ago there was no organization and you played just for fun. Nowadays, there are a lot more pitching injuries before they get into pro ball. TJ surgery is almost inevitable.
 
lancer said:
Pitch count. We don't need no stinkin' pitch count. In 1962, Warren Spahn of the Braves faced off against Juan Marichal of the Giants. The results were a 1-0 win for the Giants. The game went 16 innings and both pitchers went the distance. Marichal threw 227 pitches in his 16 inning win, and Spahn threw 201 pitches in the 15.1 innings he threw in the loss. The game was won on a Willie Mays Hr. Pitch count, who needs it? Not real pitchers.:wink2: -- Al
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What!!!?? 227 pitches??? that's unreal, could you imagine asking today's pitcher to throw 227 pitches{eek3} that be the exact look you would get {eek3}.
 
jazzeum said:
It's not pitch count. It's overuse in youth leagues. Kids pitch more in organized leagues than when there was only LL. Their young arms are not developed but they're throwing breaking pitches, not just fastballs. 50 years ago there was no organization and you played just for fun. Nowadays, there are a lot more pitching injuries before they get into pro ball. TJ surgery is almost inevitable.
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This is something I never thought of, I remember my little league days we had 2 pitchers mainly and we played a ton of games and Scott, Steve (our pitchers) carried the load, even into High School Steve did a lot of pitching and got the team to State before wearing out, but agree with Brad those young arms I'm sure are overly used in today's little league, middle school, etc.
 
sammy719 said:
What!!!?? 227 pitches??? that's unreal, could you imagine asking today's pitcher to throw 227 pitches{eek3} that be the exact look you would get {eek3}.
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Ain't that the truth. Marichal's one game would be the equal of 3 starts for most of today's aces.:rolleyes2: -- Al
 
Latest research is now leaning towards the constant hard throwing of the fastball as being the real damaging agent. Kids are taught to throw as hard as they can, every pitch, with no let up. Might be hard to believe, but that's where the latest research seems to be headed. -- Al
 
lancer said:
Latest research is now leaning towards the constant hard throwing of the fastball as being the real damaging agent. Kids are taught to throw as hard as they can, every pitch, with no let up. Might be hard to believe, but that's where the latest research seems to be headed. -- Al
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Yup, and we as parents/coaches are to blame in some aspect, when I played little league back in the mid 70's it was about just playing, sure we all wanted to win but playing was the focus point, now today's little league have standings/All Star series/playoffs/ weekly stats on kids :confused:,etc. I have only been to a few little league games here in Arizona since my son took up other sports but to see some of the parents glued to every pitch/hitter was a little amusing as well as the ump hearing it from some in the crowd, I guess we have put expectations on our boys/girls to a much higher degree in the sporting world at a much younger age and the injuries as Brad mentioned are showing up while still in their younger years...Sammy
 
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