Battle for Arnhem.... (2 Viewers)

And as a great many older eye witness books state, the Battle of Arnhem is a subject rather open to unique interpretation all of its own, I find the Arnhem example on here is noexception. Tho be it though toy soldier figures or Text and Photos.
 
This is my favorite thread on the forum, because I love Kevin's photography and historical account of this critical battle. Could we please focus on depicting the history on this thread, and discuss the historical accuracy (or lack thereof) of various manufacturer's products on the threads in those manufacturer's forums? I am happy to rivet count on a thread started for that purpose, but this one quite clearly is not. Thank you.
 
This is my favorite thread on the forum, because I love Kevin's photography and historical account of this critical battle. Could we please focus on depicting the history on this thread, and discuss the historical accuracy (or lack thereof) of various manufacturer's products on the threads in those manufacturer's forums? I am happy to rivet count on a thread started for that purpose, but this one quite clearly is not. Thank you.
Well said Louis.
 
It is difficult to express anything on here other than background , because always someone tries to say your nit picking....too bad.
Maxime Chevallier, you were recently banned under your previous forum name 'The Major', if you continue to be a pest I am sure the forum owner will ban you again if you do not comply with the forum rules.
 
I do not really endorse or support K and C figures as a collector . I find the quality of the Sculpting, especially the faces, rather "bland" and un realistic, the figures are larger than 1/32 Scale and rather "chunky"...and a lot of thin black painted "lines" reminiscent of Mid Seventies techniques, are used to try to define better the webbing details etc....

There are a great many Modern type "books" in the Hobby Industry, filled not with text but with colour photos.... described as "Beautiful" but i disagree with this.

Taking a lot of colour photogrpahs of something in my pown personal opinion I find mediocre quality, does not make it a high quality item, or especially an Artistic standard or acolade achievement in terms of Artistic Quality, definition of Detail, facial expressions, posture etc, (all levels of work previously achieved in our Industry but which now appear to be taking a backward hike), especially in view of some of the very high sided prices K and C Items go for on E Bay and at Shows...

Sorry....its just not "up there" with true industry greats like Sid Horton, or D F Grieve to mention only a few....
Proof if anything, that bungng laods of cash into something, doe snot make it a success from an Aesthetic, Artistic and Object value point of view.
Sorry if this viewpoint is not the cup of Tea of some other Modellers, it is not my intention to offend, but I feel it is important to make a difference between the quality of the items in the photos and other rather better and well made products.
Why?
 
It is difficult to express anything on here other than background , because always someone tries to say your nit picking....too bad.
'Too bad' you say..........to date members have engaged with you respectfully, which is in total contrast to your diatribe of dribble and waffle, clearly designed specifically to hijack a topic of interest to many on here.

Unless you wish to participate as a mature human adult and carry on with the theme of the thread.........kindly sod off and go play in your own troll AI sandpit with all your other 'special' friends.......

Cheers.
 
Maxime Chevallier, you were recently banned under your previous forum name 'The Major', if you continue to be a pest I am sure the forum owner will ban you again if you do not comply with the forum rules.
......its probably a bot or some bored snot-nose, spotty limp-dick with nothing better to do on a Monday night other than annoy and pretend they actually know what they are talking about.........members should be aware there is a whole community of bored idiots out there who wet themselves over such things.

Given the massive number of so-called 'guests' & visitors logging in to TF these days I'm not surprised the site attracts the odd clown.
 
......its probably a bot or some bored snot-nose, spotty limp-dick with nothing better to do on a Monday night other than annoy and pretend they actually know what they are talking about.........members should be aware there is a whole community of bored idiots out there who wet themselves over such things.

Given the massive number of so-called 'guests' & visitors logging in to TF these days I'm not surprised the site attracts the odd clown.
More like a failed French entrepreneur with delusions of grandeur, a sad luddite that has difficulty accepting reality.
 
Ref: Arnhem - 1944: The Airborne Battle by M. Middlebrook

Some of the battalions were up to a hundred men short because of aircraft losses and men dropping away, an initial loss of strength of nearly 20 per cent. The number of the brigade's dead in the actual drop and the immediate action on the ground was four officers and approximately twenty-eight other ranks.

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One of the officers was Lieutenant Yves Hacart, a French officer attached to 156 Battalion.

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He had been sent to this unit as a liaison officer for a planned drop in France and need not have taken part in this operation. No one knows how Lieutenant Hacart died; but when his family had his body exhumed in 1949 to take it to their home near Rouen, his parachute harness was still on his body, suggesting that he was killed in the air or immediately after landing, possibly caught up in a tree.

The confused nature of the drop resulted in more accidents than normal. Among the many injured were Padre Raymond Bowers of the 10th Battalion, who broke his ankle, and Major Aeneas Perkins, commander of the 4th Parachute Squadron, who dislocated his shoulder, but both would return to their units later.

Three sergeants in 156 Battalion had pooled their 'comforts'; one took all the whisky, one the cigarettes and one the chocolate.

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Two were injured, and only the one with the bottles of whisky was present when the battalion moved off.
 
Ref: Arnhem - 1944: The Airborne Battle by M. Middlebrook

Some of the battalions were up to a hundred men short because of aircraft losses and men dropping away, an initial loss of strength of nearly 20 per cent. The number of the brigade's dead in the actual drop and the immediate action on the ground was four officers and approximately twenty-eight other ranks.

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One of the officers was Lieutenant Yves Hacart, a French officer attached to 156 Battalion.

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He had been sent to this unit as a liaison officer for a planned drop in France and need not have taken part in this operation. No one knows how Lieutenant Hacart died; but when his family had his body exhumed in 1949 to take it to their home near Rouen, his parachute harness was still on his body, suggesting that he was killed in the air or immediately after landing, possibly caught up in a tree.

The confused nature of the drop resulted in more accidents than normal. Among the many injured were Padre Raymond Bowers of the 10th Battalion, who broke his ankle, and Major Aeneas Perkins, commander of the 4th Parachute Squadron, who dislocated his shoulder, but both would return to their units later.

Three sergeants in 156 Battalion had pooled their 'comforts'; one took all the whisky, one the cigarettes and one the chocolate.

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Two were injured, and only the one with the bottles of whisky was present when the battalion moved off.
Love the story of the 3 sergeants pooling their 'comforts'
 
Ref: Arnhem - 1944: The Airborne Battle by M. Middlebrook

The glider landing was a less dramatic and less costly operation. The tug aircraft approached at 3,000 feet, which enabled the combinations to escape German small-arms fire. The gliders then cast off and made their final approach in a steep dive.

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One glider pilot was Staff Sergeant Bert Harget of E Squadron.

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He was flying on the extreme right-hand side of the stream when he cast off and he took a long, careful approach over Arnhem and then over Deelen airfield. Not one flak shell was fired at him, and he was not aware of any other fire. So much for the supposed flak defences at Deelen, which had dictated the route in the air plan!

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A total of 273 gliders reached the cast-off point. They were to use two landing zones (see map).

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Approximately a quarter of them - mostly carrying the balance of the Airlanding Brigade infantry and including many of the glider parties which had landed prematurely in England from the first lift - would land on LZ-S, the one north of the railway line at Wolfheze which had been used the previous day.

The main group would then come in to LZ-X, which was the large area used as a parachute-dropping zone on the first lift. The loads landed here would mostly be the balance of the division's artillery and transport, together with a large quantity of ammunition which was part of the first daily resupply, being brought in more reliably by glider than being dropped by parachute.

Among the gliders were ten Horsas flying from Manston carrying the first element of the Polish brigade - five anti-tank guns and a small Brigade HQ advance party, twenty-six men in total.

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Also coming in were the two remaining RAF radar-warning-unit gliders and a glider which had fallen out from the Corps HQ lift the previous day. It landed safely, but its occupants were forced to remain with the Arnhem troops; one man, a signals officer's batman, would be killed at Arnhem.

It mostly went very well, thanks to the firmer ground being used than on the previous day, the good work of the 1st Border in defending the landing zones .....

..... and the skill of the glider pilots.
 

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