Bondi Beach Terrorist Attack (1 Viewer)

[OzDigger]

Muslims always go on about wanting to be martyrs, but they so often go for targets that are defenceless, with little girls, women, people who can offer the least resistance their preferred ones.
In gangs and groups and that by the way is their strength as they always stand by each other in situations, where they come into contact with non muslims as they do in the ever growing muslim prison population, with so many of them being wrong un's.

Steve, that does bring a sad reality into this discussion, both my sons know me as being the 'devils advocate' as I always try and see things from all sides, but there's no way to condone someone deliberately aiming numerous bullets into a child and similar 'soft' targets.

As for some comments by other forum members, my Grandfather fought the Turks in Gallipoli, Egypt and the Palistine Line of Communications etc in WWI, and my Father was a Bomb Aimer/Navigator in a Pathfinder Lancaster bomber against the Nazis in WW2.

Despite their obvious personal conflicts with those 'enemies', did they continue or instil in their children a hatred against Muslims and Germans after those wars, clearly the answer is NO, as they were both intelligent humans that understood that even 'good people' can be made to do the 'wrong thing'.

 

[Horus]

Steve, that does bring a sad reality into this discussion, both my sons know me as being the 'devils advocate' as I always try and see things from all sides, but there's no way to condone someone deliberately aiming numerous bullets into a child and similar 'soft' targets.

As for some comments by other forum members, my Grandfather fought the Turks in Gallipoli, Egypt and the Palistine Line of Communications etc in WWI, and my Father was a Bomb Aimer/Navigator in a Pathfinder Lancaster bomber against the Nazis in WW2.

Despite their obvious personal conflicts with those 'enemies', did they continue or instil in their children a hatred against Muslims and Germans after those wars, clearly the answer is NO, as they were both intelligent humans that understood that even 'good people' can be made to do the 'wrong thing'.

Matt, I too will often play the devil's advocate and look to see the thinking of the other side, but when you have fifty three countries in the world who all bring their children up to detest Jews and any misfortune that happens to them to be an event to celebrate and the USA is included right at the top of the pile with the rest of Europe right below them, you do have to wonder about their look on life, which they so proudly proclaim a hatred for, unlike Jews and the rest of us, who much prefer life !

Individual muslims may only want for a better life for themselves, but when you have a gathering of them, their ages old hatred soon surfaces and instead of reaping the benefits of living in the west, they act against it and turn it into copies of the holes they come from.

 

[OzDigger]

Matt, I too will often play the devil's advocate and look to see the thinking of the other side, but when you have fifty three countries in the world who all bring their children up to detest Jews and any misfortune that happens to them to be an event to celebrate and the USA is included right at the top of the pile with the rest of Europe right below them, you do have to wonder about their look on life, which they so proudly proclaim a hatred for, unlike Jews and the rest of us, who much prefer life !

Individual muslims may only want for a better life for themselves, but when you have a gathering of them, their ages old hatred soon surfaces and instead of reaping the benefits of living in the west, they act against it and turn it into copies of the holes they come from.

Steve, like most Australians I haven't had much to do with Muslims, as well as Jews, on a personal basis.

I just see the results of 'their issues' played out on our media. And To Be Frank, like most Aussies, I've had a Gut Full lately, I don't care who's right, who's wrong, they can all PI$$OFF back to their own Sad countries, the sooner the better.

 

[Horus]

Steve, like most Australians I haven't had much to do with Muslims, as well as Jews, on a personal basis.

I just see the results of 'their issues' played out on our media. And To Be Frank, like most Aussies, I've had a Gut Full lately, I don't care who's right, who's wrong, they can all PI$$OFF back to their own Sad countries, the sooner the better.

Yes, I totally agree with you about Muslims, they turn up and everyone has to be on best behaviour and bend over backwards to accommodate their demands for minority rights and any negative response is all ways met with wails your racists, of course when they are no longer a minority, then there are no minority rights.
I think we can all think of dozens of examples where Muslims make demands, not to mention all the other issues they cause with their hate marches and it would be best, for the safety of citizens here, if they were repatriated to their homelands and culture that they love so much.

Unfortunately I have had to have some interaction with them through work and that just confirmed my opinions.
On the other hand I have also had the same with Jewish members of the community and have had Jewish friends and until they brought up the subject, it never even occurred that they were, nor did it ever make any difference, because unlike that other lot, are much the same as everyone else to make no difference, Jews are not forever making demands, and while I have confidence in them as being as patriotic as the next man, not so with Muslims, who have proved themselves everytime to not be trustworthy even amongst themselves, with both Pakistan and Iran having deported over 2 million Afghans in the past few months.
Not a word in the msm about that, and yet western countries continue to admit them, even knowing them to be dangerous to our own cultures.

 

[Horus]

All this bickering, which plays into their hands in furthering their agenda of terrorism to keep people from coming together to keep them out.
Jew, Atheist or whatever we are all vulnerable to their terrorism attacks.

 

[tdubel]

Correct history, that is really offensive. WTF are you talking about? The history of Israel is not that complex, it can be understood very easily. Simply - "Everyone who is Arab or Muslim, hates you, they invade you, they kill innocent people, Israel fights back, is continually on guard, etc." What is so hard to understand about that? Also, I love the theme I am hearing hear about Australians, I would challenge you that maybe all of your countrymen/women DO NOT think like you do? I have plenty of Australian friends who DO NOT in the least think that Muslim terrorists are innocent children.

Why don't you read up on Hamas and Palestine and tell me how many really true innocents there really are? NOT many. The young ones who were part of the attack on October 7th, the ones who dug the tunnels, holed up in their hospitals, chanted Death to Israel every day in the streets of Palestine for the last 50 years, joined the PLO, elected their leadership. Life has one very simple premise - you dig the hole, you lie in it. I believe Palestine has done just that, they have brought it upon themselves.

Until Muslim terrorism is combated and eradicated, these tragic events will continue and it is not now and never will be the Jews fault. You let me know how you feel when they start chanting Death to Australia because you reject the prophet Muhammad.

TD

 

[tdubel]

Please take your m

The above lot of rubbish "Everyone who is Arab or Muslim, hates you,you, they kill innocent people' is just as bad as those you condemn. your just to stupid to see it.

Not so much rubbish according to History. Hmm......England attacking Israel, nope. USA attacking Israel, nope. Jordan attacking Israel, yep, Syria attacking Israel, yep, Hamas attacking Israel, yep..................Don't see too many Non Arabs or Non Muslims in that equation. Ok, maybe not everyone, but the gist is and I would bet over 85% of the World's Muslims hate Jews. Ever read the Quaran? The gist of it is any non believer is an infidel and therefore should be vanquished. Seems to be a pretty universal theme in that religion.

But please continue to carry on with your selected replies and garbage facts.

Oh, and please cut the MAGA crap. That has absolutely zero to do with this conversation. Not everyone in the USA is MAGA and I can tell you American Jews certainly for a majority are not, actually far from it.

And please do not call me stupid, I am happy to share my intellect and IQ with you, not to toot my own horn, but it is quite high. And again, I don't say that to brag, I say it because you continue to hurl baseless insults and facts. You are going to continue to believe what you want, your right, but at the end of the day, a crystal clear look at the facts will tell you that Israel since 1948 (its existence) has been routinely threatened and attacked, they have never started any conflict, they have only continued to defend themselves. I am sorry if you don't care for the manner in which they defend themselves, but you are not them, you are not there. As I said, when the wave keeps coming to Australia and you become part of the Death to Australia chants, maybe you will rethink your position on the peaceful Middle Eastern countries.

TD

 

[tdubel]

When you make comments that hold no water expect to be shot down. America is not the center of the universe, never has been and never will be. ps don't like lace knickers they give me a rash.

I would suggest you bring a bigger proverbial gun to shoot down the conversation, baseless claims and opinions are not facts. Here is a fact for you - Australia provides about 4-5B of aid to other Countries on an annual basis. The US provides 75 to 125 B on an annual basis. So while, we may not be the center of the universe, we have an awfully big reach. Do I wish we did that, NO, b/c my own taxes would be lower if we were not doing that.
TD

 

[damian]

Where ever there are Jewish communities by and large they add value to a place and help take things forward
Some other groups seem to not do that

 

[waynepoo]

Some interesting facts.......in 2025 alone there was 398 mass shootings in the US, 390 dead, 1178 wounded, 7 shootings at schools, 4 at places of wordship. Terror?

 

[Horus]

It's very disappointing to find people who I would of have thought better of, to deny their own eyes, for surely no one can not have seen on the news, in newspapers, in the streets, so widely is it spread, this rise in anti semitism.
Today it's Jews, but tomorrow it's everyone else, you cannot keep feeding the crocodile hoping it won't eat you too !

 

[waynepoo]

This first anti semitic attack I know of here, anti semitic is not an issue here. If you refer to the protests, apart from some nutters, they were about Israels perceived response.

 

[BHogan]

Ha, we refuse the proposal.

As do we. Professionally, I've always enjoyed working with the Yanks, from the start of my career to now. I've always admired their patriotism and love of country. Their current C-in-C has been more challenging however.



Brendan

 

[waynepoo]

Yes mate, well done, you are correct indeed. Lets remember those who were murdered without cause.....We in Australia are still in shock, we don't want this crap here from any creed, faction, Faith or country...

 

[tdubel]

Surely all of this banter back and forth is in poor taste jest? It seems to be a distraction from the aim of the thread which is to acknowledge and commemorate a tragedy where innocent folk were gunned down for no better reason than their religious beliefs and ordinary citizens rose to the occasion in response.

If the MAGA crowd keeps at it, I'm sure Down Under will be proposed as the 52nd state.

Brendan

Can you remind me how Jews getting massacred has anything to do with MAGA or Donald Trump?

I am amazed at the infatuation with this. Next spin I am sure Bondi will be his fault too.

This thread was all about your first paragraph until it was stated and insinuated that Israel is on the same level as Muslim terrorists. I dont call stating facts to be in poor taste.

Unbelievable

 

[tdubel]

On the another note raised here, financially I really don't think anyone in the USA wants either of your Countries as a new State. Both of your currencies are very weak to our dollar, it would be quite costly to take you on.

 

[Rutledge]

Some interesting facts.......in 2025 alone there was 398 mass shootings in the US, 390 dead, 1178 wounded, 7 shootings at schools, 4 at places of wordship. Terror?

Ok, guy that’s never set foot in the US. Please do educate me about what it’s like to live in the US. I’ve only lived here 60 plus years - in 5 different states/major cities, and visited over half of the states. But I actually have no clue what it’s REALLY like to live here because ya know my eyes are “closed to the truth”.

 

[waynepoo]

 

[waynepoo]

On the another note raised here, financially I really don't think anyone in the USA wants either of your Countries as a new State. Both of your currencies are very weak to our dollar, it would be quite costly to take you on.

 

[waynepoo]

Ok, guy that’s never set foot in the US. Please do educate me about what it’s like to live in the US. I’ve only lived here 60 plus years - in 5 different states/major cities, and visited over half of the states. But I actually have no clue what it’s REALLY like to live here because ya know my eyes are “closed to the truth”.