Britain's Zulu War (2 Viewers)

[Napoleon1er]

If I had a spare 3-4 thousand hanging around, I would collect Zulu too

 

[thebritfarmer]

Why they wear blue uniforms?
It will make my diorama i am building look stupid( rainbow style) too many diferent uniforms....
I wannt them to have red uniform, like the rest of the gang.
Can you make some of the red uniforms also?

You are kidding right?

This is the colour of the uniform that they wore !! I suppose you could buy a set and have it repainted if you wanted to.

One word of advice, don't collect Napoleonics, that would be a rainbow nightmare.

 

[GICOP]

Why they wear blue uniforms?
It will make my diorama i am building look stupid( rainbow style) too many diferent uniforms....
I wannt them to have red uniform, like the rest of the gang.
Can you make some of the red uniforms also?

Hi Ales

I take it you don't have any 60th = Green, Royal Marine Light Infantry= Blue, Royal Marine Artillery = Blue, Naval Brigade = Blue or Blue/White or White or any of the Volunteers, now that would drive you crazy but they would all be correct for different actions in the AZW campaign

Having a mix of the different units surely will add to your display?

Cheers

Martyn

 

[thebritfarmer]

Hi Ales

I take it you don't have any 60th = Green, Royal Marine Light Infantry= Blue, Royal Marine Artillery = Blue, Naval Brigade = Blue or Blue/White or White or any of the Volunteers, now that would drive you crazy but they would all be correct for different actions in the AZW campaign

Having a mix of the different units surely will add to your display?

Cheers

Martyn

You forgot the 17th Lancers Martyn

 

[GICOP]

You forgot the 17th Lancers Martyn

Oops ! One of mine and Joe's favourite units as well

Thanks for picking me up on that Scott

Cheers

Martyn

 

[mestell]

This is the difference in just collecting a toy soldier, rather than understanding/knowing the history behind the figures offered. Often I see collectors make this decision. I suppose this would fall under the category of perception (often influenced by the film industry) vs. what really happened. That is why I continue to be primarily a collector of Wm Britain figures. I know that when Ken Osen sculpts a figure I can count on it being historically accurate to the time period, uniform, equipment, and unit of the figure produced - more a historical miniature rather than a toy soldier. Oh well just my two cents worth - nothing more, nothing less . . . .
Mike

 

[thebritfarmer]

This is the difference in just collecting a toy soldier, rather than understanding/knowing the history behind the figures offered. Often I see collectors make this decision. I suppose this would fall under the category of perception (often influenced by the film industry) vs. what really happened. That is why I continue to be primarily a collector of Wm Britain figures. I know that when Ken Osen sculpts a figure I can count on it being historically accurate to the time period, uniform, equipment, and unit of the figure produced - more a historical miniature rather than a toy soldier. Oh well just my two cents worth - nothing more, nothing less . . . .
Mike

I'll give you three cents for that two cents Mike. Well put!!

Sometimes myself I go back to the movie Zulu/Zulu Dawn and think they didn't look like/do that in the movie. We are easily influenced by the media sometimes although the RA in Zulu Dawn wore blue. I wonder how popular the Britains figures would have been had the been fashioned more on the movies.

 

[Aleš]

Hi Ales

I take it you don't have any 60th = Green, Royal Marine Light Infantry= Blue, Royal Marine Artillery = Blue, Naval Brigade = Blue or Blue/White or White or any of the Volunteers, now that would drive you crazy but they would all be correct for different actions in the AZW campaign

Having a mix of the different units surely will add to your display?

Cheers

Martyn

well like you say (diferent actions) but i am not building two or three or five diferent actions but one big display( i have a special made diorama for that ocasion) and it will disturb my diorama if i put red and blue together.
Maybe that is what they supposed to look like in history but if some one will come to my room and he will have no idea about history battles he will judge that i am sure because it will "look funny".
It is like i put also american indians together with the ZULUS attacking my red 24th on foot...I do not like too many colour in ZULU range ( red should be the right colour).
Napoleonics is diferent because there were many diferent countries wear diferent uniforms, but here it is just red english and black zulus (perfect combination for eyes) this is the reason i do not buy natal police,volounteers,....for my ZULU range.
I am interested only in red uniforms so at least they can take an orders from a customer for what kind of colour customer wannt (red or blue) and at the end it will be interesting to see which colours they sale more (red or blue)...Let customer decide!
Also it will be more interested if the customer have more options like:

-we can decide if we wannt lt Chard wear a gun instead of thepointing finger( they can offer to us both options, and let customer to decide, which one they will order)
-we can decide if we wannt lutenant Chard wear a british flag instead of the rifle ( i am sure that people will buy more of lt.Chard wear a pistol and a british flag, than the pointing finger and a rifle)

-i have mayn more ideas!

 

[thebritfarmer]

I think Ales with all due respect they would not sell. The RA wore blue and that is what is wanted. Perhaps Chard with a pistol would sell better, I doubt with a flag as it was not his job to carry the flag. So again historically it is not right. Toy soldier companies do not generally make customers individual figures or do custom paint jobs it is TOO EXPENSIVE. I would suggest you find someone that you can send figures to and they can convert them for you.

 

[GICOP]

well like you say (diferent actions) but i am not building two or three or five diferent actions but one big display( i have a special made diorama for that ocasion) and it will disturb my diorama if i put red and blue together.
Maybe that is what they supposed to look like in history but if some one will come to my room and he will have no idea about history battles he will judge that i am sure because it will "look funny".
It is like i put also american indians together with the ZULUS attacking my red 24th on foot...I do not like too many colour in ZULU range ( red should be the right colour).
Napoleonics is diferent because there were many diferent countries wear diferent uniforms, but here it is just red english and black zulus (perfect combination for eyes) this is the reason i do not buy natal police,volounteers,....for my ZULU range.
I am interested only in red uniforms so at least they can take an orders from a customer for what kind of colour customer wannt (red or blue) and at the end it will be interesting to see which colours they sale more (red or blue)...Let customer decide!
Also it will be more interested if the customer have more options like:

-we can decide if we wannt lt Chard wear a gun instead of thepointing finger( they can offer to us both options, and let customer to decide, which one they will order)
-we can decide if we wannt lutenant Chard wear a british flag instead of the rifle ( i am sure that people will buy more of lt.Chard wear a pistol and a british flag, than the pointing finger and a rifle)

-i have mayn more ideas!

Just trying to help out Ales, here is a picture from the Osprey book ZULU WAR 1879

GUNNER, ROYAL ARTILLERY

Not WBritains I know but here is the Trophy of Wales version

Cheers

Martyn

 

[cantinetozzo]

This is the difference in just collecting a toy soldier, rather than understanding/knowing the history behind the figures offered. Often I see collectors make this decision. I suppose this would fall under the category of perception (often influenced by the film industry) vs. what really happened. That is why I continue to be primarily a collector of Wm Britain figures. I know that when Ken Osen sculpts a figure I can count on it being historically accurate to the time period, uniform, equipment, and unit of the figure produced - more a historical miniature rather than a toy soldier. Oh well just my two cents worth - nothing more, nothing less . . . .
Mike

Agree with Mike too..i love the way Ken creates its figures, a lot of historical attention and personal understanding of how an item of clothing was like transpires in them.

 

[GICOP]

The Redoubt with a few added figures

Cheers

Martyn

 

[mestell]

A very nice photo to enjoy my morning coffee with Martyn. The redoubt always struck me as a very nice addition to the Zulu War sets and figures. Your photo confirms that. Thanks for showing it to us manned with its stalwart defenders . . . . .
Mike

 

[GICOP]

A very nice photo to enjoy my morning coffee with Martyn. The redoubt always struck me as a very nice addition to the Zulu War sets and figures. Your photo confirms that. Thanks for showing it to us manned with its stalwart defenders . . . . .
Mike

Many thanks Mike, I managed to get 12 figures inside, I think another couple might fit.

Cheers

Martyn

 

[thebritfarmer]

Very nice start to the day Martyn, I have mine and yes certainly seems roomy enough for quite a few figures. Another nicely done piece for our collections

 

[mikemiller1955]

Martyn...your redoubt addittions look really nice...great photos too...

 

[GICOP]

Very nice start to the day Martyn, I have mine and yes certainly seems roomy enough for quite a few figures. Another nicely done piece for our collections

Martyn...your redoubt addittions look really nice...great photos too...

Many thanks Scott and Michael.
Looks like I will have to grab a few more standing and kneeling firing figures to display outside the walls of the Redoubt before they are retired from sale and the extra 2 1/2 % tax increase kicks in, over here, on Jan 4th.

Cheers

Martyn

 

[thebritfarmer]

Many thanks Scott and Michael.
Looks like I will have to grab a few more standing and kneeling firing figures to display outside the walls of the Redoubt before they are retired from sale and the extra 2 1/2 % tax increase kicks in, over here, on Jan 4th.

Cheers

Martyn

Don't forget to leave room for additional

20071A - British 24th Foot Standing Firing #2

 

[The Lt.]

The Redoubt with a few added figures

Cheers

Martyn

Nice to see you at play with your WB ZW figures Martyn an manning your last redoubt. Now waiting for Scott to retrive his camera so he can get to play. Nicely done photos Sir Martyn...........The Lt.

 

[GICOP]

Don't forget to leave room for additional

20071A - British 24th Foot Standing Firing #2

You're right there Scott, I've nabbed one but will need a couple more

Cheers

Martyn