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Not being a New Yorker it surprises me a bit that Cuomo is being touted as some type of hero by the media in the current crisis. Putting aside the politics it appears to an outsider that his handling of this pandemic has been an absolute disaster as confirmed by the results. Unprepared, encouraging visitors into March and downplaying the virus, then wildly overestimating the medical equipment and hospital beds needed (thereby putting others in the country at risk), and now shaking down the federal government to pay for the state's mismanagement. The last straw, however, was reading that he intended to force the health care workers who came from other states to NY to assist in the crisis to pay NY taxes! His seemingly endless press conferences are sometimes bizarre. But he is being touted as showing leadership while governors in states with far better results are ignored or criticized.
 
Not being a New Yorker it surprises me a bit that Cuomo is being touted as some type of hero by the media in the current crisis. Putting aside the politics it appears to an outsider that his handling of this pandemic has been an absolute disaster as confirmed by the results. Unprepared, encouraging visitors into March and downplaying the virus, then wildly overestimating the medical equipment and hospital beds needed (thereby putting others in the country at risk), and now shaking down the federal government to pay for the state's mismanagement. The last straw, however, was reading that he intended to force the health care workers who came from other states to NY to assist in the crisis to pay NY taxes! His seemingly endless press conferences are sometimes bizarre. But he is being touted as showing leadership while governors in states with far better results are ignored or criticized.

As a New Yorker I think he is getting very mixed reviews. He exhibited some good leadership traits with his daily speeches especially compared to Washington. Facts, less minimizing and misleading rhetoric, trying to be diplomatic in regards to politics and a homey Roosevelt type of reassuring speech.
All that said it's getting tiring and I agree that he botched it from the beginning.
 
Not being a New Yorker it surprises me a bit that Cuomo is being touted as some type of hero by the media in the current crisis. Putting aside the politics it appears to an outsider that his handling of this pandemic has been an absolute disaster as confirmed by the results. Unprepared, encouraging visitors into March and downplaying the virus, then wildly overestimating the medical equipment and hospital beds needed (thereby putting others in the country at risk), and now shaking down the federal government to pay for the state's mismanagement. The last straw, however, was reading that he intended to force the health care workers who came from other states to NY to assist in the crisis to pay NY taxes! His seemingly endless press conferences are sometimes bizarre. But he is being touted as showing leadership while governors in states with far better results are ignored or criticized.


Doug...I'm glad you mentioned his...you're not the only one who feels this way...frankly...I'm getting tired of his daily 1-2 hour updates on CNN...I would much prefer to hear from my own governor for a change and get a better grip on what's happening in my area than in NYC...I kind of understood when NYC was considered the epicenter of the outbreak as it was crisis central....but as things have gotten under control to some degree and the mortality rate has declined considerably in NYC...I'm getting tired of hearing his wordy musings on coronavirus...I don't find all his little anecdotes about his neighbors and personal experiences of much use to my locale...to me...he comes off as a bit of a blowhard that shifts the blame to others...as far as being a hero...I understand he has no more political aspirations...but you can't buy this type of exposure if you wanted to be a political candidate...to get as much tv time as he is being allowed seems a little counter productive to me...
 
All,

TD and NY Soldiers both have good points and I agree with y'all. This is a conundrum for sure but this is how I look at it:

-The first round of bailouts went to big business and a pacifier check to the populous...with a signed check by the dear leader AS IF he was dolling out the funds from his own bank account. Everyone got one except George.

-The second round went to Pay Check Protection which did nothing for independent contractors and those in the service industry (barbers, hair stylists, etc). Our business qualified for PCP and we got it most haste. Those who qualified got it...except George.

Meanwhile, the first of the month came and went on March 1st, April 1st and now May 1st and bills don't quarantine. Therefore, the common man/family still had to pay up even if he or she got let go from the COVID crisis. Can you file for unemployment? Sure, but you got wait at least another month or so just to get awarded. In the mean, you gotta eat and with no money comes desperate measures and actions in desperate times. Ask George, he'll tell ya. Oh and by the way George I may be making fun but I am not laughing about your situation AT ALL. In fact, I am a little pissed for you...vicariously.

So, in my opinion why can't George (as an example for many people) get a monthly dole that should not have to be paid back until it is SAFE to enter the work place and public? Well, because the Government will be ****ed to fund a citizen with out cause. In my opinion there is cause and this is a unique situation that requires action to keep not only our economy afloat but our citizenry whose financial and mental well being is at stake. With out tax payers (who should be happy ones by the way) you don't get money for bullets, payroll and White House toilet paper. The TAX Payer has been footing the bill for hundreds of years and this one time you (the government) can't reciprocate? *** is that? No, no there is this push to open the economy so the Govt does not have to pay out.

On a side note, one of our contractors son came into the shop and I asked him how college was going. He told me with glee that it was going great because he did not have to pay for it because he is a dreamer. Mind you I had just spent over $600 on college applications for daughter #2 and the wife and I strategized paying for her college for the next 4 to 8 years that week. I was gobsmacked and couldn't believe my ears. Simply put, a non citizen was getting their higher education paid for, yet my daughter (daughter of a veteran) a citizen (and tax paying one too) who is working "over" part time to earn some college money and filling out scholarships with a frenzy gets a flood of letters from banking institutions offering her loans to pay for college.

I was and still am disgusted at this story and its not over as Son#1 is right behind her.

This is an example of how our government prioritizes its citizenry wether its for college or during a pandemic. And by the way, Pandemic or no pandemic the dreamer kid still gets to go to college for free...on my dime and yours. Yet George, can't even get a $1200 signed check in his account. Its a crying shame and sadly that's how we roll in 'Merica and there is no end in sight. The bleeding has to stop.

John from Texas

PS: GICOP you need to call Boris about those gas price man...thats criminal.

John,
I'm fine with you using me as an example with this virus situation, not a problem at all.

Bottom line is this; I started MMTS 23 or so years ago and built the business the only way I knew how; by busting my *** and going to as many shows as humanly possible to get my name out there, I attended 26 of them one year, roughly one every other weekend, sometimes I'd double up and do two shows in one weekend.

Never afraid of hard work, my Dad taught me at an early age that if you want something, you have to work for it, so again, I hustled my *** off, been hammering away for 23 years at this toy soldier gig.

Happy to report I've been lucky and also blessed to have a **** ton of customers who have supported me throughout the years, some of whom sadly are gone/passed away, others are still with me (and you all know who you are...…;)…………..) to this day.

I was doing this during the "salad days" as Matt from HB and I like to call them and I was again lucky and blessed, I have never wanted for anything, but I was and continue to be smart with my money, so I am well positioned for my and my girlfriends future as well as being able to ride out a ****show like this one.

When it first started to blow up in China, the supply of new goods outside of JJD (THANKS John!!) began to dry up/sales started to drop, then as the flow of goods from China began again, the **** hit the fan here in the US of A...……………..in March, not gonna lie, I was very concerned (as in VERY) as to what the future held for me selling a luxury item, toy soldiers.

Well, as things got worse in April, my sales went through the roof!?!?…………...I'm talking holy smokes through the roof, I'm talking the week before Christmas all of April, it's also bled into May.

Why? Near as I can tell from the people I've talked to, toy soldiers are a "comfort item", when that package shows up, we're little kids again, for a few hours, we forget about what's going on outside our doors...…………….case in point; I just sent off an order of 20mm FPW figures to my painter in the UK, as I await his email that he got them and is ready to make a start on them, the excitement builds for me.

I survived 9/11, I survived the housing crash in 2008 (the market crashed the Monday AFTER Chicago), I'll survive this.

So, I don't need a 1,200.00 check, give my dough to someone else who REALLY needs it, I don't need it, I don't want if, IF I get one (and due to my yearly income...…...…….hey, my accountant is as squeaky clean as it gets and I wouldn't want it any other way...…………..I guess I don't qualify?), I am going to donate that dough to a charity of my choice, we'll see.

I don't need a government bail out loan for payroll, it's just me, so give my dough to some poor bastard whos company is about to go down the ****ter, I don't want it, I didn't bother to apply as I don't need it.

All of these bail outs and checks should go to people who need it, not me, I'm all set. My mortgage company called, apparently they are all ****ting their pants and they asked me if there is anything they can do for me; told them nope, go help someone who really needs help, same with my leasing company for my jeep, I don't need any deferrals, thanks but no thanks, go help someone else.

I am truly and utterly blessed; I get to sell toy soldiers for a living, something I dreamed of doing since I was a kid, my customers are aces, they supported me through this ****show, it's extremely humbling and the room gets dusty just thinking of it.

I'll be 60 in December; not sure how much longer I'll have skin in this game, the youngsters like Julie from TFT and Matt from HB are the future of the hobby saleswise, I have more years in the rear view mirror as a dealer than in front of me on the highway of life, but for as long as I do, from the bottom of my heart, thanks to EVERYONE who helped make my childhood dream a reality and who supported me through both the thick (the "salad days") and the thin (9/11, 2008, Corona Virus)………………….

I'm amazed.

I'm truly touched.

Stay safe everyone, we'll get through this.
 
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Not being a New Yorker it surprises me a bit that Cuomo is being touted as some type of hero by the media in the current crisis. Putting aside the politics it appears to an outsider that his handling of this pandemic has been an absolute disaster as confirmed by the results. Unprepared, encouraging visitors into March and downplaying the virus, then wildly overestimating the medical equipment and hospital beds needed (thereby putting others in the country at risk), and now shaking down the federal government to pay for the state's mismanagement. The last straw, however, was reading that he intended to force the health care workers who came from other states to NY to assist in the crisis to pay NY taxes! His seemingly endless press conferences are sometimes bizarre. But he is being touted as showing leadership while governors in states with far better results are ignored or criticized.

And now he has called COVID-19 "the European virus" . . . Also don't forget he ordered and forced nursing homes and elder care facilities to house COVID-19 patients thus exposing the most vulnerable to the virus. Not impressed at all . . .
Mike
 
Not sure how to muti quote, Sorry!

Anyhow, the simple fact is that NONE of the "leaders" from the White House in DC to the Governors Mansion in Washington really knew what they were dealing with. It is not any one person's fault and quite frankly to expect them to be prepared for something this unknown is just not reasonable. IN general, I do think a majority of Governors and the White House worked together to some degree and a lot of what they did was very positive and still is. The problem is that it all became at some level political gamesmanship whether they intended to or not. That is a reality that is what it is.

I personally have a problem how the media continues to sensationalize, dramatize and portray this. Depending on which network you watch, it is a blame game - Trump, Cuomo, Newsom, etc etc etc. Again, I have a hard time blaming any of them for this mess. The truth - it came from China, that is where to start. I have said this ad nauseum, if you continue to watch all of the network news 24/7, you are going to get whatever jaded picture of the truth you prefer. My advice, stop watching them and just read overall summaries daily and pay attention to the facts in your State - much healthier in the long run!

TD
 
Not sure how to muti quote, Sorry!

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Not sure how to muti quote, Sorry!

Anyhow, the simple fact is that NONE of the "leaders" from the White House in DC to the Governors Mansion in Washington really knew what they were dealing with. It is not any one person's fault and quite frankly to expect them to be prepared for something this unknown is just not reasonable. IN general, I do think a majority of Governors and the White House worked together to some degree and a lot of what they did was very positive and still is. The problem is that it all became at some level political gamesmanship whether they intended to or not. That is a reality that is what it is.

I personally have a problem how the media continues to sensationalize, dramatize and portray this. Depending on which network you watch, it is a blame game - Trump, Cuomo, Newsom, etc etc etc. Again, I have a hard time blaming any of them for this mess. The truth - it came from China, that is where to start. I have said this ad nauseum, if you continue to watch all of the network news 24/7, you are going to get whatever jaded picture of the truth you prefer. My advice, stop watching them and just read overall summaries daily and pay attention to the facts in your State - much healthier in the long run!

TD

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Thank you! I had no idea how to do it either . . . also I completely agree with Tom's post.
 
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Just click on that icon for each of the messages that you want to include.


Man check that out...I had no idea either. That is something as I didn't have a clue what that + was for.

Thanks Ivanmoe and yeah I got the alert about Tornadoes, but when I looked up in the sky I could not pin point it. So, I booked it home waited for it to clear and then we went to the Drive Thru Zoo today. It was pretty cool.

John from Texas
 
George,

I love reading your posts man...they are the best. I respect your story my friend and by divulging your soon to be age of 60 your sir are a survivor! Yes sir, you survived more than 9/11, '08 Crash and now COVID. You are a Cold Warrior and witnessed the gas shortage in the late 70's. Remember that? I also remember the AIDS pandemic. Remember the misinformation during that whole episode? That one turned into an Endemic. Remember the nuclear arms race and the fear of going to Nuclear War in the 1980's. Man that was crazy to think about. As a matter of fact, not only did you survive all that you also...

...wore bell bottoms and KC and Sunshine platform shoes didn't you? Jammed to the Bee-Gee's and were apart of the Disco era...weren't you? Or were you a rock rebel who rejected disco?

Tell the truth George.

John from Texas
 
George,

I love reading your posts man...they are the best. I respect your story my friend and by divulging your soon to be age of 60 your sir are a survivor! Yes sir, you survived more than 9/11, '08 Crash and now COVID. You are a Cold Warrior and witnessed the gas shortage in the late 70's. Remember that? I also remember the AIDS pandemic. Remember the misinformation during that whole episode? That one turned into an Endemic. Remember the nuclear arms race and the fear of going to Nuclear War in the 1980's. Man that was crazy to think about. As a matter of fact, not only did you survive all that you also...

...wore bell bottoms and KC and Sunshine platform shoes didn't you? Jammed to the Bee-Gee's and were apart of the Disco era...weren't you? Or were you a rock rebel who rejected disco?

Tell the truth George.

John from Texas

Thanks...……………..like I've said before, I gotta be me, you either get the vibe I send out or my posts/comments/sarcasm whistle over your head like an 88mm shell.

Gas shortages; yup and I was driving a 1972 Dodge Charger with a 383 motor, a rocket ship that passed everything but the gas station, I remember waiting in long, long lines for gas in the summer.

AIDS; yikes, that put a crimp on my clubbing for awhile, this boy don't suit up...…………….I remember I went to Horseshoe Bay to visit a friend of mine, we stopped at All Stars in San Antonio on the way back to his house from the airport...……………...I had a ball, your Texas women loved the Boston accent/Boston Brohammer look/Tony Manero hair do/ZCaverichi pants/gold chains/jacked up on DBol in the gym 6 days a week look, I ended up staying at a young ladies apartment who danced at All Stars and got a ride back to my friends house at 7:00am, his wife was thrilled over that adventure...………..

Disco exploded in Boston in the late 1970's/mid 1980's, clubs popped up everywhere, the women and their 9 foot tall hairdos loaded with Aquanet and their stiletto heels...…………….yikes...………….they were called "Stellas"...……………….and they were fine. Yeah, I embraced it, used to dance up a storm the clubs, women loved the fellas who could dance and not the white boy Frankenstein strut to "Takin Care of Business" while the villagers chased him with torches stomp around the dance floor...…………………….I also loved rock music too, my friends used to tease me as they guy with the Saturday night fever hairdo and the Van Halen teeshirt.j I later worked the door at a couple of Boston's best clubs, the fringe benefits were well worth the brawls and dealing with drunks on a nightly basis.

I was all things to all people...………..but yeah, I loved going to the disco clubs, we had a ball, back in the good old days...……………..
 
I seriously hope everybody rejected disco.

Seriously no.

The movie Saturday Night Fever was a game changer, launched John Travolta and the Bee Gees into super stardom, it's the second biggest selling soundtrack of all time, over 40 MILLION copies sold worldwide.

The only people who rejected disco were white guys who danced like they were tap dancing in a mine field.

If you had rhythm, you had it made in the late 1970's/mid 1980's.

Disco gave birth to new wave and groups like New Order, OMD, Howard Jones, Erasure, Culture Club, Depeche Mode, Ultravox, Flock of Seagulls, ie, the second British invasion, which led to latin freestyle that exploded in NYC; Cynthia, Judy Torres, Johnny O, lisa lisa and cult jam, Debbie Deb, cover girls, nayobe, company B, Lisette Melendez, which led to Techo dance in the 1990's which led to trance music, all of these genres are huge.

Someone like you who's a music nut should know the importance of disco.

I enjoy all types of music, everything from 60's/70's/80's/disco/new wave/hair bands/hard rock/pop/funk/soul music.

I also know the history behind it; it's way, way more than just "disco"...…….

I like country too; give me some Brooks and Dunn/My Maria anyday of the week and twice on Sunday...…………….
 
Seriously no.

The movie Saturday Night Fever was a game changer, launched John Travolta and the Bee Gees into super stardom, it's the second biggest selling soundtrack of all time, over 40 MILLION copies sold worldwide.

The only people who rejected disco were white guys who danced like they were tap dancing in a mine field.

If you had rhythm, you had it made in the late 1970's/mid 1980's.

Disco gave birth to new wave and groups like New Order, OMD, Howard Jones, Erasure, Culture Club, Depeche Mode, Ultravox, Flock of Seagulls, ie, the second British invasion, which led to latin freestyle that exploded in NYC; Cynthia, Judy Torres, Johnny O, lisa lisa and cult jam, Debbie Deb, cover girls, nayobe, company B, Lisette Melendez, which led to Techo dance in the 1990's which led to trance music, all of these genres are huge.

Someone like you who's a music nut should know the importance of disco.

I enjoy all types of music, everything from 60's/70's/80's/disco/new wave/hair bands/hard rock/pop/funk/soul music.

I also know the history behind it; it's way, way more than just "disco"...…….

I like country too; give me some Brooks and Dunn/My Maria anyday of the week and twice on Sunday...…………….

I didn’t say it wasn’t important in the history of pop but from a purely musical perspective it’s the nadir of pop music, in my opinion, at least until rap came along.
 
I didn’t say it wasn’t important in the history of pop but from a purely musical perspective it’s the nadir of pop music, in my opinion, at least until rap came along.

From a song writing standpoint, I agree 100%; no disco song is a "great song" from an artistic standpoint, the sole purpose was the right groove that got you out on the dance floor.

I never once heard a disco song and thought "Wow, those lyrics really speak to me"...……………….;):wink2:^&grin……………………...
 
The purpose of music is to make you feel good, to speak to you, so if disco or any other form of music does that, then that’s what it’s all about. Certain songs like I Can’t Get No Satisfaction or Riders on the Storm take me back to a certain time in my life and I still enjoy the heck out of them.

By the way, if you enjoy watching rock documentaries AXS TV has some great stuff.
 
"Do a little dance, make a little love...GET DOWN TONIGHT...GET DOWN TONIGHT"

John from Texas
 
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