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marco55 said:
There is a small group of people in the US that just don't believe in vaccinations and no matter what you do they will resist.I think the most unpleasant aspect of all this is that we should be proud of all the people who have risked their lives and worked so hard to help people and be proud as a country how fast we have developed effective vaccines. Yet all they do is fight for control and power.Those ones make me sick to my stomach.
Mark
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Well as Doug, Tom and others have said; people just need to move on and get on with their lives.

Best of luck to those who no matter what refuse to get vaccinated.
 
Warrior said:
Well as Doug, Tom and others have said; people just need to move on and get on with their lives.

Best of luck to those who no matter what refuse to get vaccinated.
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I wonder if that affects their medical insurance if they need to be hospitalised for Covid after refusing vaccinations.
 
OzDigger said:
I wonder if that affects their medical insurance if they need to be hospitalised for Covid after refusing vaccinations.
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I don't think you can deny someone coverage due to refusal to get vaccinated, that won't hold up in court I do believe.
 
Warrior said:
I don't think you can deny someone coverage due to refusal to get vaccinated, that won't hold up in court I do believe.
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I don't know about that...
maybe that could happen...
it would have to be stated in their policy when they renew...
would be a great motivator to get the jab...
 
Warrior said:
I don't think you can deny someone coverage due to refusal to get vaccinated, that won't hold up in court I do believe.
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That would be my assumption as well. However insurance companies have a reputation for refusing claims and renewals if they can.
 
OzDigger said:
That would be my assumption as well. However insurance companies have a reputation for refusing claims and renewals if they can.
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They're famous for looking for any loophole to bone policy holders over.
 
Warrior said:
We need a "love" button................this post nails it.

A pandemic in the US has turned into a political debate.

BOTH parties put themselves before country, it's all about them and **** the idiots who vote for either party, we're all just pawns in the game of life.

The vast majority of the people who are unvaccinated are not because of concerns over the vaccine and/or side effects, they are not getting it because they don't trust the government/think they are getting played/think they are being lied to about how severe COVID really is.

As a result, day after day people are getting sick, ending up in the hospital and dying, or suffering long term after effects of COVID.

Totally NEEDLESSLY.

And this pandemic just goes on and on and on and on.
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Great post with the words “BOTH parties” being the most important part.

This us vs. them garbage is going to lead to the downfall of this country and I can’t help but hope this pandemic proves that fact.

Us has just as many idiots as Them and BOTH are led by the dumbest of all whose greatest accomplishment is convincing the masses that they are “leaders”.
 
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For those who received the Moderna vaccine, the company is reporting that the effectiveness of its vaccine doesn’t decrease after six months based on the results of clinical trials that started in July of 2020, although the company didn’t release data supporting this statement.

In other news, in Louisiana, where COVID has spiked, there has been a fourfold increase in demand for the vaccine.
 
5PM local news CBS said that...
Houston emergency rooms are so overwhelmed with new Covid cases...
that they are requesting you don't go there for admission unless 100% absolutely necessary...

pleading with unvaccinated people...to go get your shots...
unvaccinated people are getting crushed here...
 
jazzeum said:
For those who received the Moderna vaccine, the company is reporting that the effectiveness of its vaccine doesn’t decrease after six months based on the results of clinical trials that started in July of 2020, although the company didn’t release data supporting this statement.

In other news, in Louisiana, where COVID has spiked, there has been a fourfold increase in demand for the vaccine.
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Brad...
tonight on Lester Holt NBC Nightly News...
they reported that Moderna is now urging a booster shot...
while WHO has not subscribed to that idea as of yet...
 
mikemiller1955 said:
Brad...
tonight on Lester Holt NBC Nightly News...
they reported that Moderna is now urging a booster shot...
while WHO has not subscribed to that idea as of yet...
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I have to wonder if it's really that bad, why haven't they closed the southern border?

Joe
 
joesgis said:
I have to wonder if it's really that bad, why haven't they closed the southern border?

Joe
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The mass media refuses to report on any possible connection between the surge of cases in the border states and the open border. It's a taboo subject. I have no idea if there is any correlation because there is such limited information but it's not inconceivable. I suppose it doesn't fit their desired narrative, however. Rural, uneducated southerners must be to blame due to their political affiliation according to the media. Someone who lives down south told me that the local airport was receiving flights full of immigrants. They are being dispersed throughout the region. How many? Who knows? Maybe tens of thousands. How many are vaccinated or infected with the virus? I doubt anyone knows. Just another example of hypocrisy and how this event has been politized to suit the desired political interests of one party or the other as needed.
 
Mark,

I love you brother. If this administration is a disgrace what was the last one...a success? I have no ill will towards you or anyone, but to go straight for the juggular on blaming an entire administration for the COVID surge is just too easy. I took that easy route on the last administration and rightly so because they had the sorriest of attitudes towards the COVid response..."it will just disappear, use bleach" blah, blah, blah. I talked about having the proper attitude on this thread ad nauseam and the polis, media and groupies just continue to hang on to what's good ink for their shows, blog or papers. Can we not see it for what it is?

It is all BULL ****.

Anyway, I am no longer (and really haven't been) a us versus them type of guy, that gets the group no where. So, I have changed my mentality to what's good for John from Texas, his loved ones and friends. If those ideals don't align with others its okay, I ain't mad at ya and I respect ya for you and yours. You do want you think is right, but so far what we have done as a family is working just well. Remember, my wife contracted breast cancer right before COVID hit and we dealing with that and COVID at the same time. Talk about HIGH anxiety and a double whammy! But we made it through...she made it through...so all the precautions, safety measures we heeded did the trick and yup it could have been worse. ALOT worse.

I am sad to read about the Councilman in Galveston who beat the "burn the mask" drums and died the other day from COVID. He was 45 and leaves behind a wife and 6 year old. I don't think he ever imagined he wouldn't be around, yet drank the Jim Jones kool-aid of being an anti-masker, anti-vaxer and anti-everything proud Texan. That obviously doesn't matter anymore, but what does matter is that his child no longer has a dad. A wife no longer has a husband and family is with out their son. That ain't worth it in my books, I would rather live a long age and see my family grow than pow-wow into a orgasmic frenzy of ANTI-WHATEVER just to align yourself with a group mentality of were one goes, we all go. Well, that mantra seems to be taking followers into the grave and the death business is a booming.

To me, right now, I am in a different place and I will tell you why. I had a tonsillectomy recently and became the "1 in 20" that has complications. "Complications" is an understatement because what basically happened from last Wednesday was that I had three tonsillectomy's in 5 days, two of which I went under for and one of which I awake and watched a hot barbed cauterization poker sear the back of my throat to stop uncontrollable bleeding that if not stopped would send me into Hemoptysis, which if not controlled means you choke and your own blood and die. Yup, that is where I was at on Sunday night and watched and smelled smoke coming out of my throat 5 times before I passed out from the pain. The bottom line:

this procedure broke me physically and mentally.

One-I had no idea how much pain tolerance I had (which apparently I get the gold medal for) and two this episodic experience highlighted my awareness. Awareness that I knew in short order by the voice inflections and response from the ER ENT that I was in bad shape and on my way down a slippery slope. Later that morning I went back into the OR for the third surgery, but had so many chemicals in my body I had no idea how they were going to put me under again and frankly I cried when they wheeled me into the OR because I did not know if I would come out of it alive. My logic was simple: how much can a 49 year old male take in 5 days? Three surgeries? In the smallest and softest part of the body? My body was filled with liters of pain killers, morphine, dope, and whatever else they needed me to be on. My blood pressure was 190 over 99 for HOURS on end.

FEAR my friends is what broke me. FEAR of not knowing if I will see my wife again, or see my Daughter enter Texas A&M this fall or see my son enter the University of Miami this fall for Pre med school. FEAR humbled me and I didn't even have COVID. Which brings me to my point:

Until you experience near death, you really never know how you will deal with it. All I saw was surgical lights and thinking this is the last thing I may see. I had no strength to think of anything else, but the FEAR of knowing this is it and the next 15 minutes will determine if my children are fatherless for the rest of their lives over a freaking tonsillectomy gone wrong was unfathomable. Whats worse is that this tonsillectomy was a long overdue "elective" surgery. When I came to I wept not out of pain, but out of relief that I would go another day.

All I can say is I wish that fear on no man and those people who are on ventilators breathing their last breathes KNOWING this is it...is too much to bear. I ask all of you...FOR THE LOVE OF GOD...NOT to put yourself in that position because you want to join the club of being a anti-whatever. It is the single dumbest mindset any rational person can have, but you don't have to believe me and you can simply go find out for yourself or gamble with your heath. Go ahead.

Oh and by the way, FEAR is free and so is death. But the cost to those you leave behind is a debt you will never be able to repay because there are no refunds in death. I hope to never have to think about that again until my last OLD dyeing days.

Get vaccinated and I love you all.

John from Texas
 
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John graphic and obviously very painful description of your tonsillectomy...
sounds brutal...
hope you're recovering well...

the Councilman you mentioned...
H. Scott Apley...
he's actually from Dickinson...
about 15-20 miles from Galveston...
but still in Galveston County...
I believe his infant son is 5 months old...
and has contracted Covid along with his mother...

there was a post by a reader on one of his demise stories that hit home with me...

"With the constant flow of evidence coming from the medical community from all around the world, we have rock solid proof that this vaccine is safe.
What do the anti-vaxxers have.. Proof? Evidence? Studies? No. Just conspiracies, lies and misinformation. You don't "believe" anything you're hearing from the medical community but anything from a Facebook post, TikTok video or Youtube video is all true? Come on people, use logic and reasoning."




 
hotel3alpha said:
Mark,

I love you brother. If this administration is a disgrace what was the last one...a success? I have no ill will towards you or anyone, but to go straight for the juggular on blaming an entire administration for the COVID surge is just too easy. I took that easy route on the last administration and rightly so because they had the sorriest of attitudes towards the COVid response..."it will just disappear, use bleach" blah, blah, blah. I talked about having the proper attitude on this thread ad nauseam and the polis, media and groupies just continue to hang on to what's good ink for their shows, blog or papers. Can we not see it for what it is?

It is all BULL ****.

Anyway, I am no longer (and really haven't been) a us versus them type of guy, that gets the group no where. So, I have changed my mentality to what's good for John from Texas, his loved ones and friends. If those ideals don't align with others its okay, I ain't mad at ya and I respect ya for you and yours. You do want you think is right, but so far what we have done as a family is working just well. Remember, my wife contracted breast cancer right before COVID hit and we dealing with that and COVID at the same time. Talk about HIGH anxiety and a double whammy! But we made it through...she made it through...so all the precautions, safety measures we heeded did the trick and yup it could have been worse. ALOT worse.

I am sad to read about the Councilman in Galveston who beat the "burn the mask" drums and died the other day from COVID. He was 45 and leaves behind a wife and 6 year old. I don't think he ever imagined he wouldn't be around, yet drank the Jim Jones kool-aid of being an anti-masker, anti-vaxer and anti-everything proud Texan. That obviously doesn't matter anymore, but what does matter is that his child no longer has a dad. A wife no longer has a husband and family is with out their son. That ain't worth it in my books, I would rather live a long age and see my family grow than pow-wow into a orgasmic frenzy of ANTI-WHATEVER just to align yourself with a group mentality of were one goes, we all go. Well, that mantra seems to be taking followers into the grave and the death business is a booming.

To me, right now, I am in a different place and I will tell you why. I had a tonsillectomy recently and became the "1 in 20" that has complications. "Complications" is an understatement because what basically happened from last Wednesday was that I had three tonsillectomy's in 5 days, two of which I went under for and one of which I awake and watched a hot barbed cauterization poker sear the back of my throat to stop uncontrollable bleeding that if not stopped would send me into Hemoptysis, which if not controlled means you choke and your own blood and die. Yup, that is where I was at on Sunday night and watched and smelled smoke coming out of my throat 5 times before I passed out from the pain. The bottom line:

this procedure broke me physically and mentally.

One-I had no idea how much pain tolerance I had (which apparently I get the gold medal for) and two this episodic experience highlighted my awareness. Awareness that I knew in short order by the voice inflections and response from the ER ENT that I was in bad shape and on my way down a slippery slope. Later that morning I went back into the OR for the third surgery, but had so many chemicals in my body I had no idea how they were going to put me under again and frankly I cried when they wheeled me into the OR because I did not know if I would come out of it alive. My logic was simple: how much can a 49 year old male take in 5 days? Three surgeries? In the smallest and softest part of the body? My body was filled with liters of pain killers, morphine, dope, and whatever else they needed me to be on. My blood pressure was 190 over 99 for HOURS on end.

FEAR my friends is what broke me. FEAR of not knowing if I will see my wife again, or see my Daughter enter Texas A&M this fall or see my son enter the University of Miami this fall for Pre med school. FEAR humbled me and I didn't even have COVID. Which brings me to my point:

Until you experience near death, you really never know how you will deal with it. All I saw was surgical lights and thinking this is the last thing I may see. I had no strength to think of anything else, but the FEAR of knowing this is it and the next 15 minutes will determine if my children are fatherless for the rest of their lives over a freaking tonsillectomy gone wrong was unfathomable. Whats worse is that this tonsillectomy was a long overdue "elective" surgery. When I came to I wept not out of pain, but out of relief that I would go another day.

All I can say is I wish that fear on no man and those people who are on ventilators breathing their last breathes KNOWING this is it...is too much to bear. I ask all of you...FOR THE LOVE OF GOD...NOT to put yourself in that position because you want to join the club of being a anti-whatever. It is the single dumbest mindset any rational person can have, but you don't have to believe me and you can simply go find out for yourself or gamble with your heath. Go ahead.

Oh and by the way, FEAR is free and so is death. But the cost to those you leave behind is a debt you will never be able to repay because there are no refunds in death. I hope to never have to think about that again until my last OLD dyeing days.

Get vaccinated and I love you all.

John from Texas
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John,
Very sorry to hear what you went through......without going into detail I recently endured seven months of surgeries and procedures due to doctor screw ups and bad luck. I also experienced pain and spasms and reactions to antibiotics that made me think I wasn't going to make it.
Why people listen to conspiracy mongers, have cult like allegiances to certain individuals and trust pundits and social media more then doctors and researchers is beyond my comprehension! The numbers speak for themselves, this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated.
 
mikemiller1955 said:
John graphic and obviously very painful description of your tonsillectomy...
sounds brutal...
hope you're recovering well...

the Councilman you mentioned...
H. Scott Apley...
he's actually from Dickinson...
about 15-20 miles from Galveston...
but still in Galveston County...
I believe his infant son is 5 months old...
and has contracted Covid along with his mother...

there was a post by a reader on one of his demise stories that hit home with me...

"With the constant flow of evidence coming from the medical community from all around the world, we have rock solid proof that this vaccine is safe.
What do the anti-vaxxers have.. Proof? Evidence? Studies? No. Just conspiracies, lies and misinformation. You don't "believe" anything you're hearing from the medical community but anything from a Facebook post, TikTok video or Youtube video is all true? Come on people, use logic and reasoning."
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Mike,

The man should have NEVER died. NEVER! He was father, aspiring politician, husband and deep in my heart wanted to do good for his community and constituents. It take HYUGE cajones to run for office and sacrifice self for the public good. I don't give a hoot what party you belong to. I am soooo sad about this story because it did not have to happen. The ones who feed him this kool-aid are the evilest people on earth. They are alive and will find his death attributed to something OTHER than COVID. This vicious cycle repeats and repeats until they too are affected and come to Jesus. This anti-this or that are sick, evil people who enjoy watching people eat other and serving up the kool-aid.

John your neighbor
 
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