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Capitolron said:
FLORIDA STATE !

... a little pre-game pep ! ;)
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Ron, I think you mean...............

F.. L.. O.. R.. I.. D.. A.. clap clap S.. T.. A.. T.. E.. stomp stomp FLORIDA STATE, FLORIDA STATE, FLORIDA STATE....Wooh!

TD
 
"Here's a question for all you NFL football fans: Do the Titans go 16-0 and the Lions go 0-16?

And for you College Fans, how about ditching the BCS B.S., and having the championship decided the way it is in all other sports, by a playoff on the field?

Discuss . . ."

Louis, I'd love to see the Titans go 16-0, it's a nice story, my only hope is they finish the job, something the Patriots were unable to do. Problem is if they go 16-0 and make it to the Super Bowl, the Giants will beat them, they are the real deal.

Regarding the BCS; college football will never have a playoff, it comes down to one thing, money and the bowls generate too much of it and the NCAA is too greedy.

If you had a playoff, deciding which four, eight, sixty four etc teams get in would be another train wreck; from there, which bowl (rose, orange, sugar, fiesta, etc) gets to host the championship game?

The current system is a joke; one loss and you are toast is a lousy system.................
 
Win or lose Florida St. has some of the best looking women at their games. If you really want to meet some angry people, go on one of the college football forums after their team has lost. Those people are unhinged.
 
George,

I agree with you that it is all about the money, but I hope that someday we will get rid of this ridiculous BCS system.

I happen to think that it is unlikely that two teams would go 16-0 in back to back seasons. While I certainly respect the Titans as a very good team, I suspect that either the Jets, Steelers or Colts will get one win off them. If anything, it might improve their chances in the playoffs if they lose one game. I am not so sure that the Giants would have beat the Patriots if the Pats had lost to the Giants or someone else in the regular season - they seemed tight.

While I agree with you that the Giants are the real deal at the moment, there could be injuries or other disasters between now and the Superbowl, so I am not ready to crown them just yet, especially as they have to play 6 games against 6 playoff caliber teams (at Cardinals, at Washington, Eagles, at Cowboys, Carolina, at Vikings) in the next six weeks.
 
"While I agree with you that the Giants are the real deal at the moment, there could be injuries or other disasters between now and the Superbowl, so I am not ready to crown them just yet, especially as they have to play 6 games against 6 playoff caliber teams (at Cardinals, at Washington, Eagles, at Cowboys, Carolina, at Vikings) in the next six weeks."

Don't worry Louis, you guys are in excellent shape. Your schedule the rest of the way is pretty brutal, but I see at worst 4-2, giving you a 13-3 record and a shot at #1 seed, worst case #2 with a first round bye.

I hope you perform as well in the playoffs as the hunted this year vs the hunter last year, best of luck.

If the Patriots lose to the Doofins this week (very real possibility), they are toast. The loss of Brady may be too tough to overcome, although Cassel has looked better every week; they have also lost their starting running back (and actually two other back ups), right outside linebacker and strong safety. Injuries are a part of the game, but they look like a M*A*S*H unit at this point with the Stoolers, Cardinals and Bills looming on the horizon.......................
 
This weekend is a very big weekend for testing the two teams with the best records in the NFL, and an opportunity for two perinneal also-rans to make a statement that they really do belong with the big boys.

The Jets, fresh off a victory over their hated Division rivals, the Patriots (with the help of a rash of devestating Patriot injuries), have a chance to prove the naysayers wrong by taking on the 10-0 Titans in Tennesse.

The Cardinals have the benefit of homefield advantage in their "statement game" against the 9-1 defending champion G-Men.

To me, these games will be decided by which of the two top teams take the games seriously, and come ready to play hard. Frankly, I don't think the Titans or the Giants are likely to lose these games if they approach the game as a must win and play hard with focus. However, if either top team comes in flat, or takes its opponent lightly, they can be upset (as is evidenced by the Giants loss to the disappointing Browns in week 6).

Which team do you think is more suceptable to pulling the upset or to being the upset victim this weekend? As a die hard Giants fan, I am a little nervous that the players, with the brutal Division schedule in the following three weeks, might look past the Cardinals, and I know that the Cardinals will be playing hard as this is a respect game for them. The Giants, however, should be able to move the ball almost at will against the Cardinals undersized defense. I believe the key to the game will be whether the Giants front 4 can get sustained pressure on Kurt Warner. If the Giants can sack Warner 3-4 times, and hit him another 10+ times, they should win the game.

With regard to the Titans-Jets game, it seems to me that the teams that tried to stuff the Titans run with 8-9 men in the box and dared Kerry Collins to win the game got torched (the Bears and Jaguars). On the other hand, early in the season the Ravens lost to the Titans 13-10 by taking a balanced approach to defense, stopping the run with only 7 men in the box, and playing good pass defense. To me, that is the approach the Jets have to take. Given time to stand in the pocket and man coverage, Kerry Collins will pick a defense apart. Any team that wants to beat the Titans will have to have confidence that the front 7 can stuff the run, and that its defensive backs can stay with the Titans receivers in its regular pass defense scheme. I also think that from an offensive standpoint, if you want to score on the Titans, unless you happen to be the Giants with a huge offensive line and Earth Wind and Fire as your running game, forget about running the ball. Spread the field and throw the ball, use slants and bubble screans as a substitute for a running game, a la the 1980's 49er's West Coast offense. Look to the game plan the Jets ran in the last game of the regular season against the Ravens in 2000, when they had a defense as dominant against the run as this year's Titans. The Jets, by spreading the field, ran up 500 yards of offense against those Ravens. That is the offensive approach I would try out against the Titans on Sunday.
 
I think the Giants will handle the Cardinals, should be a good game nevertheless.

I also think the Jets can beat the Titans IF and only IF the drama queen plays within himself and doesn't have a Favre moment and throw a boneheaded pass that gets picked off. As long as he does what the coaches tell him and doesn't try to be "the gunslinger", the Jets should win.

I think they are the class of the AFC, followed by the Titans. The rest of the AFC is mediocre at best, with the Chargers, Colts and Patriots, all former AFC powers, having down years.
 
Thanks for talking playoff football, I,m from StLouis, home of the Rams!!
I never thought a professional team of any sort could be as bad as them.
I now watch the games hopeing to see if they can loose by a bigger lopsided score than they did the week before.
Gary
 
gk5717 said:
Thanks for talking playoff football, I,m from StLouis, home of the Rams!!
I never thought a professional team of any sort could be as bad as them.
I now watch the games hopeing to see if they can loose by a bigger lopsided score than they did the week before.
Gary
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Give them back to LA where they belong. They lost there too, but at least they played outside in the sun. Jack Snow, Roman Gabriel, Deacon Jones... Those were the days when angry men played the game. I can't watch the NFL without a team from LA. It's unbelievable that the market savy NFL hasn't had a team there in a couple of decades.
 
The whole LA thing has been a complete farse/mystery. The Rams moved from LA to Anaheim, then to St Louis, where the Patriots almost ended up; how would you have liked that one Gary? Four Super Bowl appearances this decade, three Championships, team of the decade, one of the top five teams of all time right in your own back yard.

Then the Raiders moved from Oakland to LA, then back to Oakland.

A real shame.
 
Sorry George but the Patriots are only number 11 all time.

Here are the teams by number of championships (see NFL Team History):

Packers 12
Bears 8 and Browns 8
Giants 7
Cowboys 5, Steelers 5, 49ers 5 and Skins 5
Lions 4 and Raiders 4
Patriots 3, Eagles 3, Colts 3, Chiefs 3 and Rams 3
 
Yes Brad,

And the Giants hold the dubious distinction of playing in the most championship games (18) with only 7 wins.
 
Louis,

That may be true but as Lotto says, you got to be in it to win it! I'd rather have been in one and not have won it, then not be in it at all.

The Giants are one of the bedrock teams of the old NFL, with a special history, just like the Bears, Browns, Skins and Packers.
 
Jazzeum- that list does not show the Cleveland Browns who won 4 championships in the NFL and 4 prior to joining the NFL. And just to stir the pot, the NY Giants have managed to lose 12 championship games in their long history. But you gotta get there to lose, eh? Go Redskins. -- lancer
 
Lancer,

You're right, I had it on my original list but forgot to include them. I've corrected the list. They won 4 in the old All American Football Conference.
 
Just look at the Yankees: 26 titles in 39 appearances. 26 titles is obviously impressive (understatement there) but to have been in the World Series almost 40 times, that's an amzing feat.
 
jazzeum said:
Louis,

That may be true but as Lotto says, you got to be in it to win it! I'd rather have been in one and not have won it, then not be in it at all.

The Giants are one of the bedrock teams of the old NFL, with a special history, just like the Bears, Browns, Skins and Packers.
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Brad,

I'm not complaining, I'm just pointing out that while 7 championships is great, their winning percentage in the big game is not all that great. That being said, they have done pretty will in my lifetime, going 3 for 4 in Superbowls.
 
Louis,

Didn't think you were. I guess you have to separate the pre 67 era from the Super Bowl era when it comes to the Giants and even in the more recent era, 67 until 1981 and 1981 thereafter when they started to get good again.

I actually wasn't a football fan until 1969 when I saw my first game on TV, which oddly enough was the Namath Super Bowl. When I went away to college, I didn't really follow football that much until I returned to the area in 1980 and have rooted for both teams since then. The closest that both came to meeting in a subway series, so to speak, was in 1986, when the Jets lost to the Browns in playoffs. I sort of remember that the Jets were poised to beat the Browns but then got a roughing the passer call and it fell apart there.
 
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