Household Cavalry (Royal Horse Guards) (1 Viewer)

Anne emailed me to confirm that my parcel has been sent. She has supplied an arm from a drummer as the baton arm, genius. Why didn't I think of that :D

So sometime next week my parcel should arrive so keep your eyes peeled for photos. :)

jb would you mind whenever you have a spare few moments listing what Humbrol paints you used for yours as they look spot on !! Remember I need the Crimson? for the band.
 
Hi Scott - I assume that you're painting the band of - Blues & Royals?

All Paints Humbrol. Doesn't matter if gloss or matte - as all get varnished at the end .

Jacket - The blue - I use mix of Oxford Blue (104) and a touch only of Matte Black (33) just to darken it as little. (I varnish at the end, which darkens it again and gives the shine). I also use Humbrol Gloss Varnish (35). Tip. Paint the two sword slings engraved into jacket) white before painting the jacket blue - looks neater that way (i.e. it's easier to paint a dark colour over light - more difficult to paint a white thin belt over dark blue).

Tip. Paint the red cord on the cross-belt first. Next day paint the white cross belt either side of the red cord.(may need two coats). Paint the collar yellow(24) Then paint it scarlet(60), leaving the top rim remaining yellow. Then paint the jacket blue last. Easier that way - and you get a neater finish.

Trousers/ Gauntlets - White - I use one coat of Ivory (41)first (covers better) - then use White(22) to finish - may need more than one coat of white. Both of these are gloss - but again, I varnish the lot at the end - I like 'em SHINY!

Boots - Gloss black plus varnish - makes them really shine. Sounds daft - but don't use your matte black for the boots. Gloss black varnished makes them shine better.
Paint the spurs and stirrups silver first - then paint the boots black leaving the silver alone (tricky).

Gold and silver - as normal. - I usually use a mixture of Gold and Brass for the instruments for all my bands with brass - usually two coats - gives a deeper shade to the instruments - then varnish on top for the shine.

For the red of the helmet plume - I actually prefer to use a mix of Bright Red (19) darkened a little with Crimson (20).

How to mix? I usually mix two spots of the colours I'm mixing up first, and paint onto a margarine tub lid a small square. Let it dry - then review the colour and match it up to a photo. Varnish it too - to check final colour if you like. If it looks right - go ahead. If not - I try a different mix of the colours I'm using.

To darken red towards maroon - use a tiny spot of blue. If it goes too deep - add more red to bring it back.

For the horse and black sheepskin, I use matte Black - but for the reins and leather I use gloss. When varnished, you can see a slight difference. I usually put a white blaze on the horse's head - I think it stands out better that way.
If you want a slight variation in black - try a little Dark Brown Gloss (10) with the matte black. Most "black" horse are not pure black - and this will subtly change the black slightly. Don't overdo it though - but try it on the tub lid - and see the slight difference. Make the horses legs pure black though. If you see a brown horse - the legs are nearly always darker - if not black.

Flesh - I use flesh (Matte 61) - but when dry, I put a very weak touch of red colour on my brush, wipe most of it off - and touch to cheeks. If too much goes on - I get a clean brush - touch it in white spirit and touch it onto the red - this lifts it back off. Clean brush and blend in. Hope that makes sense. Practice first on marge tub - to get the hang of it. A dark mustache hides the lips - but if you want lips - use a dark shade of maroon - and just the bottom lip is best.

It's all trial and error - but when you get it correct "Write down what you used" - for each part or you will forget.

Hope that helps. Good luck - and just take your time - and you won't go wrong.
If I missed anything or you get stuck - just shout.


All the best - johnnybach
 
Look what I found ^&grin I love the internet ^&grin^&grin
 

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The band of the Royal Horse Guards, comming through Admiralty Arch into Trafalga Square. I don't know if you know the geography but if they had turned right before the arch, it would have taken them to Horse Guards parade ground. Just as a matter of interest, I believe the building on the left is where Harry Palmer's boss had his office in the film "The Ipcress Files". Any way as you can see the uniform is still worn by RHG/D without change. Notice the drum horse isn't a Clydesdale. Where did you find it?

Martin
 
Thanks Martin, I have only ever been to London once and that was when I was 8, so don't remember too much.

I did notice the drumhorse, I will probably just use some artistic license as the drumhorse I ordered should be here soon. I found this pic after I ordered it.

I was googling coronation images and found a pic which lead me to this site

http://www.gettyimages.ca

I then searched for coronation images and just went through them all. The RHG weren't marked as such just listed as 1953 coronation that why they didn't come up in a search.
 
The custom of using heavy horses for the kettledrums started in 1956 with Alexander the Great. Prior to that date normal troop style horses were used although of widely differing colours. Paddy 1st was a skewbald, Coronet was a grey, Zombie was a black troop horse. George, the Life Guards drum horse of the 1930s, was a mainly brown skewbald who was always accompanied in the Musical Ride by Marksman, a skewbald pony who appeared as a miniature drum horse. Notwithstanding all this, Scott, use poetic licence. Everybody is used to seeing the Household Cavalry with hairy drum horses and you will wait a long time for some one to correct you. Trooper
 
trooper said:
The custom of using heavy horses for the kettledrums started in 1956 with Alexander the Great. Prior to that date normal troop style horses were used although of widely differing colours. Paddy 1st was a skewbald, Coronet was a grey, Zombie was a black troop horse. George, the Life Guards drum horse of the 1930s, was a mainly brown skewbald who was always accompanied in the Musical Ride by Marksman, a skewbald pony who appeared as a miniature drum horse. Notwithstanding all this, Scott, use poetic licence. Everybody is used to seeing the Household Cavalry with hairy drum horses and you will wait a long time for some one to correct you. Trooper
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Thanks Trooper,

I had seen some of those horses in that book you recommended. I agree it was hard enough just to get a decent photo of the band, took me well over a month to find that photo. The Asset drumhorse will work well for me.

Scott
 
Hey johnny was just going back through this thread. So sorry I forgot to thank you for taking the time to post your paint list. Much appreciated!!
 
I thought you might find this interesting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM00JQyqmYI It's from the film John and Julie. Two kids run away to London to watch the corination. Their uncle is a CoH in The Life Guards. This is the old Knightsbride barracks that was demolished and replaced by Hyde Park Barracks.
 
Hi Scott,

I gave my two "Asset" drum horses the names of two that I found for my date of 1986.There were some pictures and a list of names that I found online (see below). I named mine as follows

Life Guards c.1986 "Leonidas"

RHG - c.1986 "Belisarius"

://www.householdcavalry.info/horses.html#dhasariuhttps"

Have a look - and you can choose which horse best fits your date? johnnybach
 
johnnybach said:
Hi Scott,

I gave my two "Asset" drum horses the names of two that I found for my date of 1986.There were some pictures and a list of names that I found online (see below). I named mine as follows

Life Guards c.1986 "Leonidas"

RHG - c.1986 "Belisarius"

://www.householdcavalry.info/horses.html#dhasariuhttps"

Have a look - and you can choose which horse best fits your date? johnnybach
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Cheers jb,

Mine was called Pompey and he was a skewbald. Served from 1938 - 1953
 
You can dress up "the luvvies" as much as you like in uniforms - but they will never look like soldiers! johnnybach%^V:salute::
 
The thing about actors in those days, they had all done some kind of service. If you watch the whole film there are some troopers that have a couple of lines, they obviously aren't actors!
Jonny when was the last time you saw a "Rupert" that looked like a soldier?^&grin:salute::
 
johnnybach said:
Hi Scott,

I gave my two "Asset" drum horses the names of two that I found for my date of 1986.There were some pictures and a list of names that I found online (see below). I named mine as follows

Life Guards c.1986 "Leonidas"

RHG - c.1986 "Belisarius"

://www.householdcavalry.info/horses.html#dhasariuhttps"

Have a look - and you can choose which horse best fits your date? johnnybach
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I posted some pictures of Basil (Belasarius) on here I think it was the sculpting thread.
 
I think the reply to that question would be something like:

"Well okay yah Tarquin, old boy!"
 
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