N.f.l. 2009 (3 Viewers)

[Combat]

The NFL needs to take a look at how they play overtime. I like the way they do it in college football where each team gets the ball. It seems ridiculous to play an entire game, then rely on a coin toss to give a huge advantage to the receiving team. If they get a decent kickoff return, they only need about 30-40 yards to be in FG range. Kick a long FG and bang the game is over without the other offense even stepping on the field. It's like playing an extra inning game in baseball and the visiting team wins because they bat first and score - game over. The home team never gets up. Crazy.

 

[lancer]

The NFL needs to take a look at how they play overtime. I like the way they do it in college football where each team gets the ball. It seems ridiculous to play an entire game, then rely on a coin toss to give a huge advantage to the receiving team. If they get a decent kickoff return, they only need about 30-40 yards to be in FG range. Kick a long FG and bang the game is over without the other offense even stepping on the field. It's like playing an extra inning game in baseball and the visiting team wins because they bat first and score - game over. The home team never gets up. Crazy.

This is a good point. The NFL OT stinks. As for the Vikings, they should have won, but 5 turnovers will kill even the best team at that level. And 12 men in the huddle with the game on the line? The fickle finger of fate strikes again. -- lancer

 

[mikemiller1955]

The NFL needs to take a look at how they play overtime. I like the way they do it in college football where each team gets the ball. It seems ridiculous to play an entire game, then rely on a coin toss to give a huge advantage to the receiving team. If they get a decent kickoff return, they only need about 30-40 yards to be in FG range. Kick a long FG and bang the game is over without the other offense even stepping on the field. It's like playing an extra inning game in baseball and the visiting team wins because they bat first and score - game over. The home team never gets up. Crazy.

Yep...to hinge an OT win on the flip of a coin for first chance to score is not fair...

I would rather see a kickoff to each team and total yards earned on that drive wins it...

anything but who scores first from a lucky coin toss...

this same debate and arguement is going to come up in the this week or sooner...especially with Minnesota being the better team on Sunday and having to go home on a loss...

 

[jazzeum]

I believe this issue has been looked at before by the powers that be and they decided not to make the change. It's an unfortunate way to lose a game and you could have some great shootouts. Remember that great Boise State (I think it was them) game about two or three years ago. That was a classic.

 

[Spitfrnd]

The NFL needs to take a look at how they play overtime. I like the way they do it in college football where each team gets the ball. It seems ridiculous to play an entire game, then rely on a coin toss to give a huge advantage to the receiving team. If they get a decent kickoff return, they only need about 30-40 yards to be in FG range. Kick a long FG and bang the game is over without the other offense even stepping on the field. It's like playing an extra inning game in baseball and the visiting team wins because they bat first and score - game over. The home team never gets up. Crazy.

I agree, it is a stupid rule. Even playing another quarter or some fixed period of time that would allow for more than one possession would be a better alternative.

 

[Phantom Warrior]

Even though historically it's 50/50 as to who wins the game between the winner or loser of the coin toss, I would like each team to have at least one possession.

Terry

 

[mikemiller1955]

Even though historically it's 50/50 as to who wins the game between the winner or loser of the coin toss, I would like each team to have at least one possession.

Terry

Is that true Terry...

I would think there is a decisive advantage to winning by going on offense first...

I mean...

I have never seen a winning coin toss team elect to go on defense first...

I do however...with their format..

think it's an advantage to go on defense first in the college level overtime games...

 

[Spitfrnd]

Is that true Terry...

I would think there is a decisive advantage to winning by going on offense first...

I mean...

I have never seen a winning coin toss team elect to go on defense first...

......

Sadly, last year's Redskins might have opted to elect to go on defense; afterall, their defense was more likely to score.

 

[jazzeum]

Looks like they're going in the right direction now Bill. I lived in DC during the George Allen era: Billy Kilmer et al and that was a fun time.

 

[Phantom Warrior]

Is that true Terry...

I would think there is a decisive advantage to winning by going on offense first...

I mean...

I have never seen a winning coin toss team elect to go on defense first...

I do however...with their format..

think it's an advantage to go on defense first in the college level overtime games...

From what I remember, the 50/50 is the stat for all overtime games. And yes, everyone wants to receive, but if you don't get a few first downs and have to punt, you'll be giving up good field position to the team that lost the coin flip. However, there are some "bad" numbers within those stats that I think should have some changes made to overtime.

Overtime was introduced for the playoffs in the 1950s, and for the regular season in the mid-1970s. However, due to the increasing accuracy of long range field goal kickers in the last 10 years, receiving teams in OT have won 60% of the time since 2000, with about half of those times on their first possession. So the system is becoming increasingly unfair. Maybe it should be the first team to score a TD with both teams getting at least one possession?

Terry

 

[Combat]

Each team should get an equal number of possessions. The team that wins the coin toss would probably decide to kickoff so they know what they have to match. Let's say the receiving team kicks a FG on their possession. Then the other team takes the KO. If they score a TD they win. If they don't score they lose. If they kick a FG you do it over again, flipping possessions.

 

[lancer]

Looks like they're going in the right direction now Bill. I lived in DC during the George Allen era: Billy Kilmer et al and that was a fun time.

Those were good times. You were either a Billy man or a Sonny man. Both completely different styles of QB but both were winners. Larry Brown made 'em all look good. -- Al

 

[jazzeum]

Al,

I only got to DC in 1969 and I think Billy became the man although Sonny did play (maybe he got hurt and Billy took his place). Larry Brown: man, that was a running back. It was tragic later to see him wear down but in his prime, there were few better.

 

[Spitfrnd]

Those were good times. You were either a Billy man or a Sonny man. Both completely different styles of QB but both were winners. Larry Brown made 'em all look good. -- Al

Actually I preferred the next generation team with Little Joe and of course, the Diesel and his Hogs.

 

[lancer]

Actually I preferred the next generation team with Little Joe and of course, the Diesel and his Hogs.

The Gibbs years are, of course, the Golden Years. I don't think it can ever be better than that, for me anyway. I will never forget that first SB win with Riggins scoring on that fourth down run. The Doug Williams 2nd quarter blitz against Denver was another SB high point. I sure do miss those Gibb's teams. -- Al

 

[Spitfrnd]

The Gibbs years are, of course, the Golden Years. I don't think it can ever be better than that, for me anyway. I will never forget that first SB win with Riggins scoring on that fourth down run. The Doug Williams 2nd quarter blitz against Denver was another SB high point. I sure do miss those Gibb's teams. -- Al

So do I Al. I remain hopeful but it is a little freightening to think they may try to draft a franchise QB from this years options. I do think we need a better QB but this does not seem the best year to look for one and we also need so much more, especially at the offensive line and even now the running back. If the running game is working and there is a reasonable level of protection, both line issues in many respects, Campbell can hit the open receivers reasonably well. My fear is that we draft an OK young QB who never has the chance to develop because he has to start too soon and with too little protection.

 

[lancer]

Alright everyone, it's crunchtime. What are your SB predictions and who do you want to win? I believe the Colts will win and I would like to see them win. I will not open a vain if the Saints win, however. I just think Manning is too tough to stop for a whole game. Obviously, Manning can be stopped, on occasion, for a while, I just don't think the Saints can do it enough to win. Won't hazard a guess to the score but I won't be surprised to see the point total north of 65. Let the game begin! -- lancer

 

[Peter Reuss]

I don't see the Colts turning the ball over 5 times, which is the main reason the Saints beat the Vikes. I think Colts, possibly big.

With that said, I'm rooting for the Saints. Go figure.

 

[mikemiller1955]

The over/under is 57 1/2...
should be a high scoring game...
should be...but who knows...


Saints have a terrible secondary...
the line is Colts -5 1/2...
hate to give Brees that many points...


but the Colts have a better defense...
Manning has experience...
such a tough call...

whatever quarterback has the best protection should win...

that's a lot of points...
could be who gets the ball last...

Brees with 5 1/2 is a lot...

 

[Spitfrnd]

Alright everyone, it's crunchtime. What are your SB predictions and who do you want to win? I believe the Colts will win and I would like to see them win. I will not open a vain if the Saints win, however. I just think Manning is too tough to stop for a whole game. Obviously, Manning can be stopped, on occasion, for a while, I just don't think the Saints can do it enough to win. Won't hazard a guess to the score but I won't be surprised to see the point total north of 65. Let the game begin! -- lancer

So you have power and will be able to see the game? You all got a ton of snow correct?

I pretty much agree with your thoughts here but protection will be important. Manning is one of the best at quickly finding a target but if the Saints pressure him as much as they did Brett it could be a long game for the Colts. Of course the same is true for Brees. If it is simply a shootout I think the Colts will win easily since they have the better secondary.