N.f.l. 2010 season (2 Viewers)

[Currahee Chris]

I just saw that...guess what.....Brett Favre is going to retire!!! True story!!!

I''m telling you guys- get out of the mainstream sports and come on over to the UFC- 3 judges, man on man, excellent sportsmanship- i made the switch about 3 years ago and it is my favorite sport to follow these days- bar none!!
No subpar fighters in the ring, no 7-9 career fighters getting shots at the title, no rankings by sports writers- it's all on the athletes to do.

George- all the Patriots royalty is on site for the shows- Welker was at UFC124. Brady always shows up when they are in Boston too.

 

[Spitfrnd]

The Giants shot themselves in the foot in the last 7 minutes of the Eagles game, and it cost them their season. Unfortunately, they hung on and won today, so Coughlin will be back to ensure another late season collapse next year.

The pathetic thing is that 4 NFC teams finished at 10-6, but two of them are out of the playoffs (Giants and Bucs) while if Seatle wins tonight, it hosts a playoff game at 7-9. There is something seriously wrong with the Divisional concept in football. The teams in the tough Divisions beat themselves up and some end up missing the playoffs, while teams in the weak divisions play half their games against the other cupcakes in their division, and by "winning" the division with a losing record end up as the 4th ceed in the playoffs, hosting a game against a team with an 11-5 record.

Doubtless you are not a Seattle fan Louis. Frankly, the Giants didn't look much like a playoff team against my clearly not playoff team yesterday and were rather lucky to win at all. This also may be frightening but Rex had better passing numbers than Eli and where was that coveted Giant running game against a defense down 6 key starters? Yes it is always a drag to see your team miss the playoffs, probably more so if close but those are the breaks and all teams played by the same rules. Until every team plays every other team with the same injury/depth status for each game, ANY playoff scheme will be flawed. Some team records are justified, like the Pats, and some are not. Sooo, I simply suggest we all accept the breaks, bad calls, bad bounces, bad divisions, bad couches and bad owners and just enjoy what success our teams can muster, there is always next year.

 

[lancer]

A 7-9 teams wins the division and gets to host a playoff game against a far superior wild card team. Oh joy, the NFL's vaunted parity has reared it's ugly head at the worst possible time and the joke will be on national tv. What a mess. I hope Seattle loses 75-0 just to prove the point. The NFL needs to address this posssibility or risk having the playoffs become a farse. -- Al

 

[Louis Badolato]

Doubtless you are not a Seattle fan Louis. Frankly, the Giants didn't look much like a playoff team against my clearly not playoff team yesterday and were rather lucky to win at all. This also may be frightening but Rex had better passing numbers than Eli and where was that coveted Giant running game against a defense down 6 key starters? Yes it is always a drag to see your team miss the playoffs, probably more so if close but those are the breaks and all teams played by the same rules. Until every team plays every other team with the same injury/depth status for each game, ANY playoff scheme will be flawed. Some team records are justified, like the Pats, and some or not. Sooo, I simply suggest we all accept the breaks, bad calls, bad bounces, bad divisions, bad couches and bad owners and just enjoy what success our teams can muster, there is always next year.

You misunderstand my point. Frankly, I expected the Giants to have a losing record this year, they played way above their heads to get to 10-6. In fact, I would rather the Giants had gone 8-8 or worse, because I would have happily seen Coughlin get the boot, with his entire staff except for Perry Fewell, and get a high enough draft pick to maybe find the middle lonebacker they so desperately need.

My point is that the Divisional Playoff system is stupid and unfair. Every season, certain divisions are perineally tough, like the NFC and AFC East, and the NFC and AFC North, while other divisions are perineally pathetic, like the NFC and AFC West. By playing unbalanced schedules where the teams in the tough Divisions beat each other up, and the teams in the weak divisions play half their games against other cupcakes, you have situations, like the playoffs this year, where in every single wildcard game, the host team has a worse record than the visitor.

In the pre-divisional days, teams played the same schedules, and the two best teams played in the NFL and AFL Championship Games, with the winners playing in the Superbowl. I would return to this system, with teams playing every other team in their conference once, and the best 6 teams in each conference making the playoffs, ceded in record order. If they went to an 18 game season, each team would play two random teams from the opposite conference. Under this system, you would never see a 12-4 team as the visitor against a 7-9 team. No team with a losing record should ever make the playoffs. Period.

 

[Louis Badolato]

A 7-9 teams wins the division and gets to host a playoff game against a far superior wild card team. Oh joy, the NFL's vaunted parity has reared it's ugly head at the worst possible time and the joke will be on national tv. What a mess. I hope Seattle loses 75-0 just to prove the point. The NFL needs to address this posssibility or risk having the playoffs become a farse. -- Al

I just can't wait to see the line. Vegas will have Seattle as a 3 touchdown underdog, and people will still be putting their money on New Orleans. I will be shocked if New Orleans doesn't blow Seattle out. The Seahawks had a tough time at home against a Rams team that won only one game last year. Pathetic.

 

[Spitfrnd]

You misunderstand my point. Frankly, I expected the Giants to have a losing record this year, they played way above their heads to get to 10-6. In fact, I would rather the Giants had gone 8-8 or worse, because I would have happily seen Coughlin get the boot, with his entire staff except for Perry Fewell, and get a high enough draft pick to maybe find the middle lonebacker they so desperately need.

My point is that the Divisional Playoff system is stupid and unfair. Every season, certain divisions are perineally tough, like the NFC and AFC East, and the NFC and AFC North, while other divisions are perineally pathetic, like the NFC and AFC West. By playing unbalanced schedules where the teams in the tough Divisions beat each other up, and the teams in the weak divisions play half their games against other cupcakes, you have situations, like the playoffs this year, where in every single wildcard game, the host team has a worse record than the visitor.

In the pre-divisional days, teams played the same schedules, and the two best teams played in the NFL and AFL Championship Games, with the winners playing in the Superbowl. I would return to this system, with teams playing every other team in their conference once, and the best 6 teams in each conference making the playoffs, ceded in record order. If they went to an 18 game season, each team would play two random teams from the opposite conference. Under this system, you would never see a 12-4 team as the visitor against a 7-9 team. No team with a losing record should ever make the playoffs. Period.

I think I understood that before Louis but my point is simply that those were the rules and sometimes a 7-9 team is really better than a 10-6 team given different schedules and the time of the year in which they played opponents and myrid other factors. That said, I would be fine with your play every team in your conference once approach. The Skins, Cowboys, Giants and Eagles have been stuck for years in one of the toughest divisions and it (not this year) has often unfairly discriminated against their playoff chances.

 

[jazzeum]

I, too, believe the rules are the rules and everyone has to live by the same rules and sometimes this will yield a champion with a losing record just as it yielded an 8-8 playoff team (the Giants) a few years ago.

However, there is no way that either of the Seahawks or the Rams are better than the Giants. I watched last night's game and it was rather pathetic. Over the course of a season, your record will be what you actually are and that's what these teams actually are: not very good teams.

 

[lancer]

I think I like Louis' idea of the simplified schedule and playoff system where the 6 best records go to the playoffs. What could be more fair? Obviously something would have to be worked out for teams that find themselves tied with others for the final spots (say, 3 teams with identical records going for the final 2 spots) but this can be done without too much trouble. No more of this .500 or losing record crap in the playoffs. -- Al

 

[Spitfrnd]

I, too, believe the rules are the rules and everyone has to live by the same rules and sometimes this will yield a champion with a losing record just as it yielded an 8-8 playoff team (the Giants) a few years ago.

However, there is no way that either of the Seahawks or the Rams are better than the Giants. I watched last night's game and it was rather pathetic. Over the course of a season, your record will be what you actually are and that's what these teams actually are: not very good teams.

Well maybe or sometimes but yesterday for example, the 10-6 Giants very nearly lost to the 6-10 Skins. So sometimes winning season teams are not very good either.

 

[Currahee Chris]

It would be really interesting to see where the debate goes when Seattle shows up with a 7-9 record in the Super Bowl Admittedly, I don't see it happening, but I don't see it as completely out of the realm of possibility. There aren't any dominate teams in the NFC- like there are in the AFC, who would take a Seattle and destroy them for even thinking they were playoff worthy.

Just in case anyone is wondering, the Super Bowl is being played in Foxboro this year between the Steelers and Pats. Everything else is academic.

Baltimore- still a number 3- till they get rid of Cam Cameron, the Offensive Coordinator and run a spread west coast formation, they will continue to be just that. The problem is the image of the organziation- they still think of the 2000 Ravens who were a defensive team- they have more offensive weapons, on paper anyway, than anyone in the game. Why they aren't haning 35 points and runnin and gunnin each week is beyond me. This team- who gave up several 90+ yard drives this year- ain't the 2000 Ravens.

 

[jazzeum]

Well maybe or sometimes but yesterday for example, the 10-6 Giants very nearly lost to the 6-10 Skins. So sometimes winning season teams are not very good either.

Spoken like a true Skins fan that hasn't seen a winning season in god knows when. Maybe they didn't blow them out like the Patriots might have done but the key is to win the game and that is what the Giants did. The goal is to beat the bad teams on your schedule and then try to win more than you lose against the good teams. Unfortunately, the Giants fulfilled part 1 but not enough of part 2.

 

[Warrior]

The ax is starting to fall on coaches, Mangini got the boot today; gee, the way he, Wrecking Ball Rex's wrecking ball brother, Deibolt and Seely were celebrating after beating the Patriots, you'd think they just won the Super Bowl, so why fire the guy, perhaps it's the way his team completely laid down yesterday vs the Steelers.

Several more will get the boot, then the usual names will pop up to replace them, same old same old in the NFL.

They should make prison inmates what that craptacular game last night over and over on a continual loop, 16-6, two teams that couldn't get out of each others way.

As bad as a 7-9 team making the playoffs is, can you imagine if they somehow win the game next week, good God the horror of it all. The Saints laid an egg yesterday at home, and poodle Petes got the Seachickens pumped and jacked, so you never know..........did the seachicken fans storm the field last night and carry the poodle off the field by the way?

Imagine if they carried him off the field and he got cracked off the coconut by a falling goalpost in the wild celebration that followed; where they tipping cars over, rioting and looting in the streets of Seattle last night, or did the all go to Starbucks and a get a triple moca latte for 127.00 instead?

 

[Combat]

WOW what an exciting game tonight as the 7-9 Seachickens, losers of 7 of their last 10 games, surge into the playoffs behind Pete "pumped and jacked" Carroll, what a clown that guy is, running up and down the sidelines like a pop warner coach, Pete the poodle should have stayed in college ball where the rah rah stuff flies.

Carroll was a great college coach, but he is out of his depths in the NFL. Not a X's and O's guy. And most of the assistant coaches he brought with him from USC got schooled weekly even at the college level. The OC Jeremy Bates could shut down Joe Montana with his play calling. Just god awful assistant coaches right down the line. They lose by 30+ in the first round.

 

[tdubel]

It would be really interesting to see where the debate goes when Seattle shows up with a 7-9 record in the Super Bowl Admittedly, I don't see it happening, but I don't see it as completely out of the realm of possibility. There aren't any dominate teams in the NFC- like there are in the AFC, who would take a Seattle and destroy them for even thinking they were playoff worthy.

Just in case anyone is wondering, the Super Bowl is being played in Foxboro this year between the Steelers and Pats. Everything else is academic.

Baltimore- still a number 3- till they get rid of Cam Cameron, the Offensive Coordinator and run a spread west coast formation, they will continue to be just that. The problem is the image of the organziation- they still think of the 2000 Ravens who were a defensive team- they have more offensive weapons, on paper anyway, than anyone in the game. Why they aren't haning 35 points and runnin and gunnin each week is beyond me. This team- who gave up several 90+ yard drives this year- ain't the 2000 Ravens.

Chris, hope you are right for the Steelers.

BUT, thank you for your comments on the Ravens. Contrary to popular belief, I actually root for the Ravens when they don't play the Steelers, I do live here. BUT dang, I am sick of watching what should be awesome receivers not put up points. Anquan Boldin (FSU) was one of my favorite college players ever to watch, he is a beast, they need to figure out how to get him the ball. I think you may have hit the nail, still an offensive coordinator issue. They can't expect the defense to hold every time, too many snaps. Yesterday, the Bengals took almost 80 snaps against the Ravens defense, that is nuts.

TD

 

[gk5717]

After last nights game I deny I ever was a Rams fan or have any knowledge of them.
Gary

 

[jazzeum]

Gary,

This is an up and coming team so I wouldn't be too upset about last night's game. Bradford will only get better and better (you have to like a QB whose name is Bradford ) and Spags is a good coach.

 

[Currahee Chris]

I agree with Brad- I think Bradford will be a stud here real soon.

 

[Currahee Chris]

Chris, hope you are right for the Steelers.

I personally guarantee it.

I think it will be a classic matchup as well- Brady- the spit and polish QB vs Troy and the blue collar town. This one is shaping up to send the 2010 season, with all it's nonsense, out on a very positive and memorable moment.

 

[mikemiller1955]

The ax is starting to fall on coaches, Mangini got the boot today; gee, the way he, Wrecking Ball Rex's wrecking ball brother, Deibolt and Seely were celebrating after beating the Patriots, you'd think they just won the Super Bowl, so why fire the guy, perhaps it's the way his team completely laid down yesterday vs the Steelers.

Several more will get the boot, then the usual names will pop up to replace them, same old same old in the NFL.

They should make prison inmates what that craptacular game last night over and over on a continual loop, 16-6, two teams that couldn't get out of each others way.

As bad as a 7-9 team making the playoffs is, can you imagine if they somehow win the game next week, good God the horror of it all. The Saints laid an egg yesterday at home, and poodle Petes got the Seachickens pumped and jacked, so you never know..........did the seachicken fans storm the field last night and carry the poodle off the field by the way?

Imagine if they carried him off the field and he got cracked off the coconut by a falling goalpost in the wild celebration that followed; where they tipping cars over, rioting and looting in the streets of Seattle last night, or did the all go to Starbucks and a get a triple moca latte for 127.00 instead?

Fisher (Tennessee) should be concerned...lost control of his team...but I like him..
Gailey (Buffalo) should be scared...
Lewis (Cincinnati) should be scared...contract is up...
Soprana (Miami) should be scared...but I think he's safe...
Cable (Oakland) should be safe...8-8...they gotta be happy...Oakland 8-8...
Kubiak (Houston) could worry...all that talent and only 6-10...

Garrett (Dallas) could get fired or promoted...the last minute win with a 3rd string QB will go a long way...especially since it was against Philly...I think he did good with the loss of Romo, Bryant and then Kitna...

Denver should have a "help wanted" sign in the front window...as will Carolina, Arizona and Minnesota...

it's time to quit being a "couch coach" and put in your applications...not enough coaches to fill all the vacant jobs upcoming...

 

[Spitfrnd]

Spoken like a true Skins fan that hasn't seen a winning season in god knows when. Maybe they didn't blow them out like the Patriots might have done but the key is to win the game and that is what the Giants did. The goal is to beat the bad teams on your schedule and then try to win more than you lose against the good teams. Unfortunately, the Giants fulfilled part 1 but not enough of part 2.

I take it you didn't see the game; no matter whose fan you are, the Giants were just plain lucky to win and limped into a victory that illustrated they had no business in the POs.