N.F.L. 21-22 Season (4 Viewers)

[Warrior]

A KC fan who calls himself the "X factor" got KO'd in the stands last night. I don't condone fan violence but if someone has to get knocked out, it might as well be one of those jackarses that dress up to get on TV. And no one lifted a finger to help him as he rolled down the stairs.

Holy crap.

I watched the video; the punch was so quick it was not caught on camera, or at least the footage I saw.

Spinach chin who threw the punch; not his first rodeo as Tom pointed out.

My Dad always told me "watch for the silent assassins, they don't talk, talk, talk, they just clock you and that's that".........

Like for example that guy.

And rolled down the stairs is right, he went down like a bag of cement.

 

[Warrior]

the Bills are the real deal...
offense and defense...
Josh Allen is clicking...
I know they played against KC's weak defense...
but I would still rank them the #1 in the NFL to beat...
in my opinion....better than Murry or Brady...but Gronk might change that when he returns...
watched that game last night...
he is really accurate on long passes...
only 15 of 26...but that was for a whopping 315 yards...
definitely connected for some deep ones...61...53...35...
Allen has mobile legs too...hard to contain...
rushed for 59 himself...
amazing run for a 1st down on 3rd and 4...
when he hurdled the tackler to get a new set of downs...
very athletic and accurate QB...loaded with talented receivers,,,

Looks like the Chiefs era is over, they got demolished, their defense is horrendous, they are going nowhere.

Nice little three year run, choked away a chance to go to a SB vs New England, then with New England out of the way the following year, they got to one and won it, got to another one last year and got demolished.

They are done.

The Bills barring injuries should waltz to the Super Bowl from the AFC.

 

[mikemiller1955]

Looks like the Chiefs era is over, they got demolished, their defense is horrendous, they are going nowhere.

Nice little three year run, choked away a chance to go to a SB vs New England, then with New England out of the way the following year, they got to one and won it, got to another one last year and got demolished.

They are done.

The Bills barring injuries should waltz to the Super Bowl from the AFC.

agreed...this is not gonna be their year...
they will rebuild their D next year through draft or through free agency...
need to shore up their O-line also...
TB's pass rush chased him all over the field last year in the playoffs...
Mahome's arm and talent is too good to waste...

 

[tdubel]

Looks like the Chiefs era is over, they got demolished, their defense is horrendous, they are going nowhere.

Nice little three year run, choked away a chance to go to a SB vs New England, then with New England out of the way the following year, they got to one and won it, got to another one last year and got demolished.

They are done.

The Bills barring injuries should waltz to the Super Bowl from the AFC.

The irony is the way the Steelers beat the Bills the first week - pressure D. I think that blueprint will be the Bills undoing. The Steelers have gone the opposite way, just no depth, injuries on D and young mistake prone O line. So goes the season, but again, irony is they laid the blueprint to beat the Bills. Go figure.
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[Warrior]

agreed...this is not gonna be their year...
they will rebuild their D next year through draft or through free agency...
need to shore up their O-line also...
TB's pass rush chased him all over the field last year in the playoffs...
Mahome's arm and talent is too good to waste...

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They had a nice little run with Mahomes on his rookie deal; now they have to pay the piper and the rest of the team takes a hit, that's life in the NFL with the salary cap, it's designed so there are no dynasties and it's a highly competitive league year after year.

Which when said amazes me the Patriots had basically a 20 year run went to 9 Super Bowls and won 6.

I doubt anything like that will happen again.

You draft well, then those kids want to get paid in 4 years and if you don't, someone else will.

 

[mikemiller1955]

The irony is the way the Steelers beat the Bills the first week - pressure D. I think that blueprint will be the Bills undoing. The Steelers have gone the opposite way, just no depth, injuries on D and young mistake prone O line. So goes the season, but again, irony is they laid the blueprint to beat the Bills. Go figure.
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Tom...
yea...the Steelers are struggling this year...
maybe last week they turned the corner...
how to beat KC...who knows...TB chased Mahomes all over the field last year in the playoffs...


like Mike Tyson said...

"everybody got a plan...til you get punched in the face"...

 

[mikemiller1955]

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They had a nice little run with Mahomes on his rookie deal; now they have to pay the piper and the rest of the team takes a hit, that's life in the NFL with the salary cap, it's designed so there are no dynasties and it's a highly competitive league year after year.

Which when said amazes me the Patriots had basically a 20 year run went to 9 Super Bowls and won 6.

I doubt anything like that will happen again.

You draft well, then those kids want to get paid in 4 years and if you don't, someone else will.

yep...
there is no loyalty by owner or player in the NFL...
it's all about the $$$...

 

[tdubel]

Tom...
yea...the Steelers are struggling this year...
maybe last week they turned the corner...
how to beat KC...who knows...TB chased Mahomes all over the field last year in the playoffs...


like Mike Tyson said...

"everybody got a plan...til you get punched in the face"...

To this day, I love that quote, I still use it in business deals when we are negotiating!!! Metaphorically of course!

Tom

 

[mikemiller1955]

yea...me too...it's appropriate for most things in life...

honestly...I know a lot of people don't...but I really admire Tyson...
not just as a fighter...but as a man...
I know he has been through a tough life and made some God awful bad decisions...
domestic violence...rape...the death of his daughter...squandering his fortune...chewing on Holyfield's ear...a facial tattoo...
just to mention a few...
but he has owned up to them...all of them...candidly admitting he was wrong throughout the HBO special...
I watched this HBO 4 hour mini series documentary...
"The Knockout"...
he had a brutal life as a young man...
his mother was a drug addicted prostitute...father left when he was a child of 2 years old...he was unmercifully bullied...
sexually assaulted at age 10...he had a huge rap sheet for crimes early in his life...

most people couldn't get through what he endured...
what he accomplished...and regrettably destroyed was unbelievable...

"The Baddest Man on Earth"...in the ring...in his prime...for sure...

 

[mikemiller1955]

Gruden just resigned...
as he should of...
but...somebody tell me...
how did they get access to all his emails?

 

[jazzeum]

Gruden just resigned...
as he should of...
but...somebody tell me...
how did they get access to all his emails?

They were probably leaked by someone in the league office or with the Raiders. The emails came up in a workplace investigation that had nothing to do with Gruden and the league shared them with the Raiders.

Although he shouldn’t have said the things he did, these were private emails and what’s private should remain private between the sender and the recipient. It’s the same thing that happened with the ESPN reporter. It just goes to show that if you’re going to say anything, even in email, don’t say anything that could come back to bite you. Great state of affairs

 

[tdubel]

They were probably leaked by someone in the league office or with the Raiders. The emails came up in a workplace investigation that had nothing to do with Gruden and the league shared them with the Raiders.

Although he shouldn’t have said the things he did, these were private emails and what’s private should remain private between the sender and the recipient. It’s the same thing that happened with the ESPN reporter. It just goes to show that if you’re going to say anything, even in email, don’t say anything that could come back to bite you. Great state of affairs

True words, never put anything in writing you don't want to see again. Like the mob and accounting books of illegal income, dumb idea. Not defending Gruden, I am sure some of it was taken out of context, but still he put it in words. I am sure calling Goodell names didn't help, even if I agree with him on that one.

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[Warrior]

True words, never put anything in writing you don't want to see again. Like the mob and accounting books of illegal income, dumb idea. Not defending Gruden, I am sure some of it was taken out of context, but still he put it in words. I am sure calling Goodell names didn't help, even if I agree with him on that one.

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If I have the story strait, there were 650,000 emails in this string? And they cherry picked a couple to roast the guy? What about any of the replies from those in the string? Or does it end there, the NFL got what they wanted?

I no way, shape or form do I condone what he said.

But this just proves if the NFL has an ax to grind towards you, they will stop at nothing to trash you/get the result they want.

 

[Combat]

It still seems weird to me to see the Colts playing as the road team in Baltimore. The Ravens have settled in as the Baltimore team for anyone under 40 but I can still remember those great, old Colts teams of yesteryear. They sure choked that game away last night. There were a ton of missed kicks this week. The Colts kicker missed an extra point and couple of FGs that would have sealed that game. At one point the punter ran on the field, missed a FG, but there was an offsides penalty and the regular kicker came on and hit the next try. I'm not sure what was going on with him but he did not inspire confidence. If there is one thing I would do as an NFL coach, it would be not to send emails but second is to find a kicker that can drill it from 50 yards. I've lost count of the games I've seen this year decided by the kicker.

 

[tdubel]

If I have the story strait, there were 650,000 emails in this string? And they cherry picked a couple to roast the guy? What about any of the replies from those in the string? Or does it end there, the NFL got what they wanted?

I no way, shape or form do I condone what he said.

But this just proves if the NFL has an ax to grind towards you, they will stop at nothing to trash you/get the result they want.

I think Gruden actually played this as smart as he could. He walked away, his net worth only went up again, he has plenty of financial security. By responding the way he has and walking away, if effect, he preserved future options. I am sure he knew (he is a smart guy) that if he defiantly fought this, the NFL machine would continue to churn out emails.

I don't condone what Gruden said, in context or out of context. I think like everyone he is not perfect and in moments of rage, anger, volatility, he probably said things he wished he could take back. Do I think he is an overt racist, nah, probably not b/c his actions in public have always seemed genuine. That said, just a dumb move all the way around with the emails from a smart guy.

I don't like this witch hunt either b/c I am sure there are more and some will never see the light of day, it just depends who is on the NFL's hit list.

On a side note, remember James Harrison's public comments about Stooge Goodell? Makes you wonder what he wrote in "private" emails !

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[Warrior]

It still seems weird to me to see the Colts playing as the road team in Baltimore. The Ravens have settled in as the Baltimore team for anyone under 40 but I can still remember those great, old Colts teams of yesteryear. They sure choked that game away last night. There were a ton of missed kicks this week. The Colts kicker missed an extra point and couple of FGs that would have sealed that game. At one point the punter ran on the field, missed a FG, but there was an offsides penalty and the regular kicker came on and hit the next try. I'm not sure what was going on with him but he did not inspire confidence. If there is one thing I would do as an NFL coach, it would be not to send emails but second is to find a kicker that can drill it from 50 yards. I've lost count of the games I've seen this year decided by the kicker.

Those Colts teams of the 1970's playing in that dump of a stadium that had more dirt than grass............I remember in the 1979 WS vs the Pirates the outfield was a sea of dead grass with the football stripes still noticeable...........................Bert Jones with the white cleats getting destroyed in the playoffs year after year.

 

[lancer]

It still seems weird to me to see the Colts playing as the road team in Baltimore. The Ravens have settled in as the Baltimore team for anyone under 40 but I can still remember those great, old Colts teams of yesteryear. They sure choked that game away last night. There were a ton of missed kicks this week. The Colts kicker missed an extra point and couple of FGs that would have sealed that game. At one point the punter ran on the field, missed a FG, but there was an offsides penalty and the regular kicker came on and hit the next try. I'm not sure what was going on with him but he did not inspire confidence. If there is one thing I would do as an NFL coach, it would be not to send emails but second is to find a kicker that can drill it from 50 yards. I've lost count of the games I've seen this year decided by the kicker.

I grew up on and loved the Baltimore Colts of the late 50's and the 60's. There is no way I can ever accept the Colts in Indy as the same team/franchise, regardless of pedigree. Broke my heart to see them slink out of town on that snowy night. Ravens are now the team of Baltimore but I have never come to care about them with anywhere near the feelings I had for Johnny U and his gang. Those old Colts were my all-time favorite team of any sport and will always remain so. Time marches on in everything but my memory. -- Al

 

[Combat]

I grew up on and loved the Baltimore Colts of the late 50's and the 60's. There is no way I can ever accept the Colts in Indy as the same team/franchise, regardless of pedigree. Broke my heart to see them slink out of town on that snowy night. Ravens are now the team of Baltimore but I have never come to care about them with anywhere near the feelings I had for Johnny U and his gang. Those old Colts were my all-time favorite team of any sport and will always remain so. Time marches on in everything but my memory. -- Al

Those Colts uniforms are iconic. I remember guys like Art "the bulldog" Donovan. He was old, old school. If you look at his pictures from his playing days, he looked the same as he did decades later. Like he was frozen at some indeterminable age. He was in the US Marines in WWII and fought the Japanese. Tough as nails. He was hilarious on David Letterman. What would a guy like that make of the woke NFL culture of today?

 

[mikemiller1955]

George...
we're gonna be watching a lot of the same television this coming week...
baseball and football...
should be fun...
GOOD LUCK!

 

[lancer]

Those Colts uniforms are iconic. I remember guys like Art "the bulldog" Donovan. He was old, old school. If you look at his pictures from his playing days, he looked the same as he did decades later. Like he was frozen at some indeterminable age. He was in the US Marines in WWII and fought the Japanese. Tough as nails. He was hilarious on David Letterman. What would a guy like that make of the woke NFL culture of today?

Arty Donovan and Ordell Brasse (both old school Colts) used to have a local Baltimore TV show about the Colts, a rather typical sports talk show except that the two of them were total loose cannons. You never knew what was going to come out of their mouths in relation to all their old stories of the Colts, That show was a total blast and was the most entertaining sports talk show I have ever seen. -- Al