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Now I know get it, a Kentucky fan. Don't blame you for sticking up to your team. Calipari encourages this; he said he was surprised that some of them returned. I just don't think that's what college should represent. At the very least, call them pros and pay them.
 
Cris, sorry if I ruffled your feathers. I liked Kentucky when Pitino and Tubby were the coaches. One of my former bosses was a huge, and I mean huge, Kentucky basketball fan. He would tell me some great stories about Kentucky and Kentucky basketball and when we were on business trips, especially at the bar, we would talk a lot of coach hoops usually centering on Kentucky. Those were the days.

Calipari is a great coach, I just don't think he's a great person or good for college basketball.
 
Wisconsin past Arizona 85-78 in what was another FoulFest. Refs called 43 fouls and the were 61 free throws. Absolutely killed any flow but Wisconsin did put on a good 3-point shooting show, hitting 12-18 compared to Arizona at 2-5. Arizona stayed close with 28 points from the free throw line. -- Al
 
Md women beat Duke by 10 in regionals. On to the Final Four. Go Terps!

UK - ND tied at half. First quality team UK has played in the tournament and ND giving them all they want. Go Cats! Chris
 
Whooee! It doesn't get any closer than that. Congratulations, Chris. Cats in the Final 4. -- Al
 
What a great, great game, an instant classic. Kentucky digs deep and finds a way to win it.

Give ND a huge amount of credit, came right down to the wire.

I don't see another team beating Kentucky; ND and Arizona were the two teams who have the guards to do it, nobody else does.

That said, Kentucky/Wisconsin is going to be epic.
 
Whooee! It doesn't get any closer than that. Congratulations, Chris. Cats in the Final 4. -- Al

What a great, great game, an instant classic. Kentucky digs deep and finds a way to win it.

Give ND a huge amount of credit, came right down to the wire.

I don't see another team beating Kentucky; ND and Arizona were the two teams who have the guards to do it, nobody else does.

That said, Kentucky/Wisconsin is going to be epic.

Thanks Al and George, a real nail biter. Carl Anthony Towns comes back from a one point previous game to score 25 pts tonight. Think Wis will be another tough game. I'm sure the Badgers will be out to avenge last yrs loss to UK. Chris
 
Thanks Al and George, a real nail biter. Carl Anthony Towns comes back from a one point previous game to score 25 pts tonight. Think Wis will be another tough game. I'm sure the Badgers will be out to avenge last yrs loss to UK. Chris

I had no idea you were a Kentucky guy, finally a reason to cheer for someone in all of this!

Congrats.

-Jason
 
I had no idea you were a Kentucky guy, finally a reason to cheer for someone in all of this!

Congrats.

-Jason

Count me in on that camp, been a Kentucky fan since the 1970's; besides, being a fan here puts me in good company............:wink2:
 
I knew those two free throws the Irish missed near the end would come back to bite them. Would have been a legendary upset had they won. Every team usually has to play a tight game in the playoffs somewhere along the way. This was obviously theirs and may be smooth sailing the rest of the way.
 
I had no idea you were a Kentucky guy, finally a reason to cheer for someone in all of this!

Congrats.

-Jason

Thanks Jason. We live between Lexington, UK and Louisville, UofL. Can't live in this state and not be for one or the other. ^&grin Chris
 
This article was in the New Yorker about the joys of hating Duke. Enjoy ^&grin

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MARCH 19, 2015
The Joy of Hating
BY REEVES WIEDEMAN


The Duke basketball team is one of the most hated franchises in sports, and if there is a Blue Devil loathed above all others, it is Christian Laettner.

“Nature seems (the more we look into it) made up of antipathies,” William Hazlitt, the British critic, wrote in his 1826 essay, “On the Pleasure of Hating.” “Without something to hate, we should lose the very spring of thought and action.” Hazlitt was in his forties when he wrote the essay and had suddenly realized that he hated a lot of things—more, it seemed, than he loved—and for reasons that didn’t seem very good. He hated people for how they dressed; he hated books, even some that he had once liked; he hated himself. Were Hazlitt born two centuries later, in this country, the chances are good that he would have added the men’s basketball team at Duke University to his list.

Few modern hatreds are as widespread, superfluous, and pleasurable as those held by sports fans. I first encountered Hazlitt’s essay in Will Blythe’s memoir, “To Hate Like This Is to Be Happy Forever,” which is partly about how much Blythe adores the basketball team at the University of North Carolina, but more about how much he hates the one ten miles away, at Duke. The rivalry between those schools is among the most extreme in sports, and Blythe is not alone in his ill feelings. Last year, researchers at the University of Kentucky found that Kentucky fans felt a sense of Schadenfreude when reading about Duke players getting severely injured, and a sense of Gluckschmerz (irritation at the good fortune of others) when the players got better.


The hatred of Duke is directed at the institution more than at any one individual, but if there is a Blue Devil loathed above all others, it is Christian Laettner, whom Blythe honored with the “Christian Laettner Dishonorary Chair of Most Despised and Accursed Blue Devil.” I was reading Blythe’s book last week, just before sitting down to lunch with Laettner, who was in town for the premier of the new ESPN documentary “I Hate Christian Laettner,” which is about exactly what its title suggests. While playing in Durham, from 1988 to 1992, Laettner was the best player in the game, but he was also kind of a jerk. Against Kentucky in the 1992 N.C.A.A. Tournament, he hit what is perhaps college basketball’s most iconic shot of all time, but he probably shouldn’t have been playing at all: earlier in that game, in retaliation for a perceived slight, Laettner intentionally stomped on a Kentucky player who was lying prone on the ground. “Kentucky fans hate me because we beat them, that’s as simple as it is,” Laettner told me. “Second reason might be because I stepped on some kid’s chest during the game.” Even today, Kentucky fans wear “I Still Hate Laettner” T-shirts. Laettner himself markets “I Still Love Laettner” shirts, which sell out, as long as he keeps the print runs small.

The vitriol directed at Laettner can be chalked up to a variety of factors, some more reasonable than others: he could be obnoxious (when he wasn’t stepping on opponents, one of his favorite on-court gestures was a flick of his hand from neck to chin), and he had annoyingly all-American good looks (he was one of People magazine’s “Fifty Most Beautiful” in 1992), but, most significantly, he played for Duke. No American sports franchise (save the Yankees, perhaps, and it’s high time we put college and pro teams in the same category) receives as much scorn. Mostly, people hate Duke because they win; they have more Final Four appearances than all but three other teams. “ ’Cause they jealous,” Charles Barkley, another notable heel, said last week, when I asked why fans hated players like himself and Laettner, and programs like Duke. “They don’t get mad about the worst player. They only get mad about the great player.”

And yet the three programs with more Final Fours—North Carolina, U.C.L.A., and Kentucky—have never inspired as much loathing. Most of that has to do with a perception of privilege: Duke is stereotypically populated by wealthy, white students from out of state—the University of New Jersey at Durham, as it has been called—who seem to see positions in major law firms and financial institutions, Charlotte to Boston, as their right. And yet such presumption is rarely true of its basketball players. Laettner might have looked the part of prepster—floppy hair, an aura of invincibility—but he grew up in a middle-class family outside Buffalo. Prior to his arrival, Duke had never won a championship; its reputation of privilege and prestige had begun to build, but it was cemented under Laettner. He personified what everyone thought they hated about Duke, even if he didn’t actually embody it.

When I asked Laettner if he hated anyone as much as people claimed to hate him, he said that there were plenty of players he felt competitive with, even angry at, but none whom he could bring himself to hate. “I’m not gonna say I’m the greatest guy, but the reason I don’t hate is I know what it feels like to be hated,” Laettner said. “So I always pull for Tom Brady. I root for John Calipari. I always pull for the best of the best.” Here’s a fact that most sports fans prefer not to acknowledge, but which might bring them closer together: the players themselves often do not share their disgust for the opposition. “The Carolina guys used to come over and play pickup ball in the summer, and it was a lot of fun,” Laettner acknowledged, with a shrug.


After Laettner moved on to the N.B.A., where he had a successful if unremarkable thirteen-year-long career, most fans forgot that they hated him. (Personally, it has become harder for me to have ill feelings toward players since graduating from college, when all the players suddenly became younger than I was.) In the college game, the institutions remain the same but the individual villains change. “My freshman year, the hate was all directed toward Danny Ferry,” Laettner said. “And every year there’s some new poor sucker at Duke who draws the ire of everybody.”

Most fans, I suspect, like hating Duke because hatred itself is fun, as Hazlitt realized, and because it’s even more fun to hate alongside likeminded others, as Blythe details in his book, where he describes finding kinship with, among others, a man who recreated a “Lord of the Rings” poster with the heads of various Duke players plastered onto the bodies of Orcs. This year’s Duke team is, by most accounts, a relatively likeable bunch. (Though Laettner pointed out that if Grayson Allen, a Duke freshman who fits the stereotype—white, from a private high school—stays for three or four years, he might inspire some T-shirts of his own.) In fact, no one I spoke with could identify a modern-day antagonist who garners so much antagonism. Still, if and when Duke, a No. 1 seed, loses in this year’s tournament, a wave of Schadenfreude will inevitably come rolling through again. The camaraderie of hate is simply too fun to pass up.
 
Final four is all set, I got two right, Wisconsin and Kentucky, still alive in my pool, but several others have the two I do along with Duke, that's what I get for not picking a team because I hate them.

Twelve final fours for Duke; if nothing else, this team knows how to fan the hate flames towards them.

MSU/Duke; I'll pass, I'd rather watch a hanging. Something wrong with a playoff system that allows the 17th ranked team with 11 losses (that's four more than the other three finalists COMBINED) to get into the final four.

With college basketball, it's all about the brackets, where you are seeded, who else is in your bracket and how you match up with those teams.

What a joke.
 
Well, I managed to climb to 39 in my pool (out of 106), which is a miracle. I think I have 3 of the final 4. Trouble is I picked Villanova to play Kentucky in the final.
 
I knew as soon as Villanova lost, that bracket was going to go haywire and it sure did, a #7 seed goes to the final four when the dust settles.
 
Final four is all set, I got two right, Wisconsin and Kentucky, still alive in my pool, but several others have the two I do along with Duke, that's what I get for not picking a team because I hate them.

Twelve final fours for Duke; if nothing else, this team knows how to fan the hate flames towards them.

MSU/Duke; I'll pass, I'd rather watch a hanging. Something wrong with a playoff system that allows the 17th ranked team with 11 losses (that's four more than the other three finalists COMBINED) to get into the final four.

With college basketball, it's all about the brackets, where you are seeded, who else is in your bracket and how you match up with those teams.

What a joke.

I still have 3 in the Final Four George. The #1 seeds looked too strong for their brackets. My only "upset" would have been VA in the Final Four, a number 2 seed. :rolleyes2: Chris
 
Cauley Stein, UK, first team AA, Anthony Towns, UK, second team AA, Dez Wells and Melo Trimble U MD, honorable mention AA.
Congrats to the UK and MD players. Chris
 
Condolences to Chris and all UK fans. I just never got the feeling that this was their game whereas in the ND game you just felt that Ky would prevail. Even when Wisconsin was down four late, I thought they had one more good run in them.

Duke vs Wisconsin should be a fun game.
 
Yep, I had the same feeling, just wasn't their night.

What a shame, would have been something special to see them play tomorrow for a chance to go 40-0.

I'm done, I could care less who wins the game, will be the first championship game I haven't watched.
 

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