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The playoff committee has made it abundantly clear that strength of schedule matters more than any other factor.

So why doesn’t the same apply to the Heisman?
 
Attended the UT game yesterday and still not impressed with Quinn Ewers. Yes they won, yes other skill positions played well, he just looked dead like he was sleepwalking through the game.

That said, I am convinced the SEC officiating crews are inept. There is no excuse to miss 7 Pass Interference penalties. Texas should have had 5 beneficial calls and UK at least 2. It is ridiculous. They are not that hard to call, these were blatant in front of official and they changed the game. Was there holding too, sure but I can live with that could be on every play. The Interference misses are awful> These officials should be reviewed and then summarily fired, they are not up to the game. I am not one to continue to whine and complain but after seeing this in person, it is too hard to ignore. Again, they either blatantly hate Texas or they are inept. It is just that simple.

TD
 
The true definition of irony; the first year the NCAA expands the playoff field to 12 teams, factoring in the results of yesterday (Ole Miss and Alabama are now out), there isn't a team in the top 12 I remotely care about.

No Michigan, Alabama, Oklahoma, USC.....................I'll still watch as I love college football, so much better than the NFL, but having no dog in the fight is a downer.
 
The true definition of irony; the first year the NCAA expands the playoff field to 12 teams, factoring in the results of yesterday (Ole Miss and Alabama are now out), there isn't a team in the top 12 I remotely care about.

No Michigan, Alabama, Oklahoma, USC.....................I'll still watch as I love college football, so much better than the NFL, but having no dog in the fight is a downer.
A lot of pretenders got punched on the jaw yesterday. Indiana foremost among them. Ignoring strength of schedule and ranking teams purely based on records results in weaker teams being elevated in the rankings. Texas hasn't beat a single team that is still ranked even though they play in the SEC. Put they are ranked in the top four.
 
A lot of pretenders got punched on the jaw yesterday. Indiana foremost among them. Ignoring strength of schedule and ranking teams purely based on records results in weaker teams being elevated in the rankings. Texas hasn't beat a single team that is still ranked even though they play in the SEC. Put they are ranked in the top four.
It was, still is and always will be idiotic the way all the conferences basically got wiped out, they should have kept things the way they were vs the nonsense that is college football today.

Imagine a semi final of Oregon vs ND and tOSU vs Texas........................no thanks, hard pass.
 
Man you guys are tough on Texas. Trust me, they have a tremendous amount of talent. As with any team it is which version shows up. And I would make the argument that is and has been true all year. All you have to do is look at the choke job of Alabama yesterday. They are better than that as Oklahoma is not a real good team this year. I think it will be an interesting and exciting playoff. Conference championship games are going to put a nice wrinkle in the mix. Regardless of how Texas finishes this year they have been fun. But watch out next year Arch Manning is the real deal and if he has decent receivers behind him, I would never want to play Texas. He has the potential to be the next quarterback of a generation. He has the arm of Peyton and Eli but has footspeed too. Barring injury he is going to be fun to watch. Just because your teams are not in it it is still college football and will be exciting. And Doug knowing you hate Sark, you can’t argue the dude can coach. Will he win it all, who knows, the only coach I could ever say that about with confidence is Nick Sabin who imo is the GOAT. Everyone else got a stroke of good fortune at the right time, he didn’t need it. When he won, he annihilated the rest.
 
I actually think Ohio st vs Texas could be very interesting considering they have a regular season game next season.
 
I went to the UGA / UMASS game yesterday and spent some time with Barbara Dooley (widow of former UGA coach Vince Dooley). I enjoyed the game but just seems that college football is not what it used to be and never will be again. With the new NIL and all, there just seems to be no loyalty to a particular shcool. I don't like it. I'm a UGA guy and always will be. Vince Dooley passed away 2 years ago and Barabara told me she misses Vince tremendously. I do too.
 

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I went to the UGA / UMASS game yesterday and spent some time with Barbara Dooley (widow of former UGA coach Vince Dooley). I enjoyed the game but just seems that college football is not what it used to be and never will be again. With the new NIL and all, there just seems to be no loyalty to a particular shcool. I don't like it. I'm a UGA guy and always will be. Vince Dooley passed away 2 years ago and Barabara told me she misses Vince tremendously. I do too.
Says someone who, you know, actually played college football at an extremely high level.

And yes, the NIL and all is complete BS and has ruined college sports for sure.
 
The Indiana dance is over. :rolleyes:
The fumble really changed that game, lost all momentum and Ohio State capitalized. Tough place to win to begin with, need to be mistake free to win there. I am a huge BIG BLUE fan this weekend! Just never did like the Buckeyes!
TD
 
I went to the UGA / UMASS game yesterday and spent some time with Barbara Dooley (widow of former UGA coach Vince Dooley). I enjoyed the game but just seems that college football is not what it used to be and never will be again. With the new NIL and all, there just seems to be no loyalty to a particular shcool. I don't like it. I'm a UGA guy and always will be. Vince Dooley passed away 2 years ago and Barabara told me she misses Vince tremendously. I do too.
I think the SEC Championship could be a burner if Texas can get by A&M. Rivalry games throw everything out the window, it doesn't matter how each is doing, it is going to be the game. Georgia is sitting pretty again with Ole Miss and Alabama literally laying eggs this weekend. Ole Miss really hurt on this end as I know it is good for the Horns, I hate the Gators. Alabama, I actually watched a good bit of that replay, mother of God, they looked terrible. Of course not an OU fan, but since Sabin left, I have no love for that coach who took over, so be it.

TD
 
Says someone who, you know, actually played college football at an extremely high level.

And yes, the NIL and all is complete BS and has ruined college sports for sure.
Big Court decision coming in April that could change NIL again, not sure good or bad, but it may make it slightly harder than the current pay to play scheme. The NCAA is trying to become relevant again as a governing body, we shall see. Also, still not sure I am sold on 12 team playoff, I was thinking would have been better at a smaller number.

Do I think NIL hurt Florida State..................resounding yes. After the playoff snub last year, Travis injury and general program chaos, it didn't help. Is FSU partially to blame? Yes, I think Coach Norvell FUBARED the transfer portal, he did a horrid job recruiting from it and they landed where they are. Second class citizens, a lot of it their own making. It may even cost him his job and I think he is a good coach. BUT when you have powerful alumni, which have always been there, winning is the only thing at a major program. End of story, that has and will not change. It has always been the minor leagues in a lot of ways, now everyone is just saying the quiet part out loud with NIL. And I say this with authority, I scholarshipped with a major ACC school - we did what was considered cheating at the time, we just didn't get caught. IMO, all Schools did in one way or another, everyone looked for an advantage. We had plenty of scholarship players with no show jobs, car leases, allowance money, you name it.

End of day, I would watch College FB from Gameday til the last west coast game is over before the NFL any day of the week. It is a much more exciting product even with NIL.
TD
 
The Indiana dance is over. :rolleyes:
Records are deceptive in college football. You see it every year. Some team with a soft schedule beats a string of cupcakes or catches a good program on a down year and suddenly they are ranked in the top ten. Then they play Ohio St. or Georgia and get punched on the jaw. College football needs to take strength of schedule much more seriously in the rankings or teams are going to start scheduling even more cupcake games. Clemson played the Citadel this week. It was 42-0 at halftime. A game like that at this point in the year should result in a penalty in the rankings rather than a win.
 
Records are deceptive in college football. You see it every year. Some team with a soft schedule beats a string of cupcakes or catches a good program on a down year and suddenly they are ranked in the top ten. Then they play Ohio St. or Georgia and get punched on the jaw. College football needs to take strength of schedule much more seriously in the rankings or teams are going to start scheduling even more cupcake games. Clemson played the Citadel this week. It was 42-0 at halftime. A game like that at this point in the year should result in a penalty in the rankings rather than a win.
I would point out that Georgia scheduled Tn Tech and UMASS. They are guilty as is every other major program of putting cupcakes on the schedule. That is universal. They also had close games with a number of Conference rivals they were 10 times better than on paper. You could make this argument against every school. Technically Ole Miss came out and punched them in the mouth like they did to Texas early on. Basically, in big games, it is very tough when they are in the same class if one is off to a fast start. it happens all the time. Long story short, and especially this year, the argument can be made that every week is exciting. I give Indiana credit, they are better by leaps and bounds, they have talented football players, they got out to a decent start, however, after a crucial fumble, they literally crumbled. Is Ohio St and elite team, yes in that they have elite players, but look at their schedule too - They played Akron, Western Michigan and Marshall and basically struggled against Nebraska who has lost to a lot of teams. Again, point being, all of the top programs have many similarities this year.

Which reaffirms my belief that the finish could get quite interesting and fun to watch.

TD
 
I would point out that Georgia scheduled Tn Tech and UMASS. They are guilty as is every other major program of putting cupcakes on the schedule. That is universal. They also had close games with a number of Conference rivals they were 10 times better than on paper. You could make this argument against every school. Technically Ole Miss came out and punched them in the mouth like they did to Texas early on. Basically, in big games, it is very tough when they are in the same class if one is off to a fast start. it happens all the time. Long story short, and especially this year, the argument can be made that every week is exciting. I give Indiana credit, they are better by leaps and bounds, they have talented football players, they got out to a decent start, however, after a crucial fumble, they literally crumbled. Is Ohio St and elite team, yes in that they have elite players, but look at their schedule too - They played Akron, Western Michigan and Marshall and basically struggled against Nebraska who has lost to a lot of teams. Again, point being, all of the top programs have many similarities this year.

Which reaffirms my belief that the finish could get quite interesting and fun to watch.

TD
Schedule strength varies significantly from team to team. In some instances, it is a matter of chance. For example, playing Michigan this year is much different from playing the Michigan team of the last couple of years. No way to know that when they are scheduled in advance. Army was undefeated with a SOS ranked 133 and got destroyed by ND. Indiana has a SOS of 106 and got blown out by Ohio St. Neither game was competitive. Both teams were vastly overrated based on their records. Many other teams with multiple losses would be undefeated with those schedules and would paste them in a head-to-head matchup. Records alone are not a great measure of how good those teams are when there are over 100 college teams with significant variations in talent. If you want the best teams ranked higher, then SOS has to be a major factor.
 
Schedule strength varies significantly from team to team. In some instances, it is a matter of chance. For example, playing Michigan this year is much different from playing the Michigan team of the last couple of years. No way to know that when they are scheduled in advance. Army was undefeated with a SOS ranked 133 and got destroyed by ND. Indiana has a SOS of 106 and got blown out by Ohio St. Neither game was competitive. Both teams were vastly overrated based on their records. Many other teams with multiple losses would be undefeated with those schedules and would paste them in a head-to-head matchup. Records alone are not a great measure of how good those teams are when there are over 100 college teams with significant variations in talent. If you want the best teams ranked higher, then SOS has to be a major factor.
i would agree and say this year is just an odd year in that it is a lot of chance.
Tom
 
I do agree 12 teams is a reach, but it beats the old system where teams from certain conferences were locked into certain bowl games, very rarely did #1 play #2, the way it used to work is if #1 won their bowl game, they were the champ, if they lost, #2 was the champ, a few times as I recall a #3 would leapfrog a #2 if they were the team that knocked off the #1.............or if you had a loss, you were screwed, you'd have to run the table in order to have a shot.

Nothing beats the year BYU was undefeated and played a 6-5 Michigan team in their bowl, beat them and were crowned the champs, they would have gotten rolled by #2, #3 or #4 had they played them.
 
I do agree 12 teams is a reach, but it beats the old system where teams from certain conferences were locked into certain bowl games, very rarely did #1 play #2, the way it used to work is if #1 won their bowl game, they were the champ, if they lost, #2 was the champ, a few times as I recall a #3 would leapfrog a #2 if they were the team that knocked off the #1.............or if you had a loss, you were screwed, you'd have to run the table in order to have a shot.

Nothing beats the year BYU was undefeated and played a 6-5 Michigan team in their bowl, beat them and were crowned the champs, they would have gotten rolled by #2, #3 or #4 had they played them.
Good points. I remember that year too, incredible FUBAR in my opinion!
 
Good points. I remember that year too, incredible FUBAR in my opinion!
A complete farse, they played the march of the tomato cans, only two of their opponents won at least seven games. They only played one ranked opponent all season, preseason #3 Pitt, a team that would finish 3–7–1 and unranked. the Cougars were the only team in the WAC with fewer than four losses. They were unranked before the season started; again, a complete farse if there ever was one.
 

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