new range? WWII? (1 Viewer)

[nmrocks]

True enough. But just keep in mind that First Legion, by forgoing a dealer network, can well afford to invest more in quality while keeping their retail prices very competitive. Collectors may well love this - who doesnt love lower prices?! But it could put pressure on other manufacturers, as well as the dealers themselves. Given that most collectors buy their soldiers on-line anyway, the industry may trend in this direction.

Ya, I suppose there always is the pricing issue, as I recall prices did rise with quality.

 

[Rutledge]

K and C and WB have really well developed dealer networks all over the world. That makes it easier to get hold of their products and can be a major advantage.

Outside the US, sure. Within the US, though, not so much. FL does not have any dealers in the US. They sell directly to end customers through their website. I personally have purchased less than 5% of my collection from a dealer with a storefront.

 

[marco55]

First Legion has raised the bar in toy soldiers no doubt but some people here are making KC seem like trash.The only thing I've ever collected from KC was the Crusades line for a little while.It isn't that I think their products are bad it's just that their ranges doesn't interest me that much.That said a lot of people complain about the KC ra ra boys but aren't some here becoming FL ra ra boys?My point here is don't go bashing someone all the time when you are becoming the very thing you dislike.Some of you must like something about KC as you have large collections of them.
Mark

 

[Rutledge]

In a business like this, with a smallish and very diffuse customer base, the internet is clearly a superior sales outlet versus local outlets.

 

[damian]

Outside the US, sure. Within the US, though, not so much. FL does not have any dealers in the US. They sell directly to end customers through their website. I personally have purchased less than 5% of my collection from a dealer with a storefront.

I am outside the US so a dealership is great for me.

 

[IXEC]

Outside the US, sure. Within the US, though, not so much. FL does not have any dealers in the US. They sell directly to end customers through their website. I personally have purchased less than 5% of my collection from a dealer with a storefront.

I for one make it a point to purchase from my local brick & mortar dealer. Even if it cost me more, they need our support. I only purchase items online that my dealers don't carry.

Now it looks like I'll be seeing Warrior ( George ) for my FL items. Even though I could do mail order with FL.

Support your local Hobbystores.

 

[Rutledge]

I for one make it a point to purchase from my local brick & mortar dealer. Even if it cost me more, they need our support. I only purchase items online that my dealers don't carry.

Now it looks like I'll be seeing Warrior ( George ) for my FL items. Even though I could do mail order with FL.

Support your local Hobbystores.

A great concept and one I support. A bit tougher to do when the closest one is 4 to 7 hour drive away, and with a limited inventory.

 

[marco55]

I for one make it a point to purchase from my local brick & mortar dealer. Even if it cost me more, they need our support. I only purchase items online that my dealers don't carry.

Now it looks like I'll be seeing Warrior ( George ) for my FL items. Even though I could do mail order with FL.

Support your local Hobbystores.

I don't know of any place that sells them in my area (southern NJ).
Mark

 

[IXEC]

A great concept and one I support. A bit tougher to do when the closest one is 4 to 7 hour drive away, and with a limited inventory.

O.k., Rutledge your excused and everybody else that are distant

 

[IXEC]

I don't know of any place that sells them in my area (southern NJ).
Mark

Your right Mark,

I'm just spoiled living just 15min. away from the HB. MM will be a bit farther.

 

[Harrytheheid]

First Legion has raised the bar in toy soldiers no doubt but some people here are making KC seem like trash.The only thing I've ever collected from KC was the Crusades line for a little while.It isn't that I think their products are bad it's just that their ranges doesn't interest me that much.That said a lot of people complain about the KC ra ra boys but aren't some here becoming FL ra ra boys?My point here is don't go bashing someone all the time when you are becoming the very thing you dislike.Some of you must like something about KC as you have large collections of them.
Mark

I don't see any FL ra ra boys here Marco.
What I do see are collectors who have become somewhat frustrated by generally unimaginative and repetitive poses, and others who have been asking for some considerable time for anyone to produce figures depicting the most incredible conflict of WWII. It was described by the BBC, no less, as "War of the Century".
What people tend to get fed up of is the "K&C ra ra boys" - as YOU, YOURSELF describe them, continually giving the impression that there's no alternative. - Well, it looks to me like now there is, and in the opinion of those such as myself who own both K&C and FL figures - FL are clearly superior in quality of sculpting, more realistic paintwork, and more imaginative action poses. Anyone here who doesn't recognize that is possibly, let's see now, what's the PC phrase - oh yeah, "In Denial". Which I understand to mean that - it's finally dawned on them that they've been worshiping a false god - in some cases, for several years.
If you don't like that, then may I suggest you scurry off and exchange a few more PM's or Emails with your intense and overly-emotional buddy.

H

 

[marco55]

I've never talked to him in my life and just because a new high quality company has come out don't jump ship.I know when the new China gunboat range came out and I said on another forum that I wasn't crazy about it like a lot of others you were the one first one to go ra ra about it.And correct me if I'm wrong but I believe you do a lot of PMing and emails yourself.
Mark

 

[nmrocks]

First Legion has raised the bar in toy soldiers no doubt but some people here are making KC seem like trash.The only thing I've ever collected from KC was the Crusades line for a little while.It isn't that I think their products are bad it's just that their ranges doesn't interest me that much.That said a lot of people complain about the KC ra ra boys but aren't some here becoming FL ra ra boys?My point here is don't go bashing someone all the time when you are becoming the very thing you dislike.Some of you must like something about KC as you have large collections of them.
Mark

Marco,
Your right in that these things do have a tendency to take on a life of there own. I personally will always have a large, large K&C collection, it's really excellent art. I am also open to something new, regardless if it fits my K&C or not. If I had the kind of money to collect the highest end art, I don't think I would only collect one artist, "Variety Is The Spice of Life!" and there is a New Artist in town!

 

[Harrytheheid]

I've never talked to him in my life and just because a new high quality company has come out don't jump ship.I know when the new China gunboat range came out and I said on another forum that I wasn't crazy about it like a lot of others you were the one first one to go ra ra about it.And correct me if I'm wrong but I believe you do a lot of PMing and emails yourself.
Mark

Oh, but I have been jumping ship for at least one year now, my dear chap.
My purchases of certain toy products has plummeted - especially over the past 6-8 months.
You, of course, can do what you like - I don't care a fish's fin to be perfectly blunt.
As for the USN range, I recall mentioning that I really liked the IDEA of an interwar USN range, just as I am interested in any range that touches on the lesser known or depicted conflicts.
And then I saw the USN figures - major disappointment I'm afraid. . There's only, maybe 2 or 3 of them I would buy, but that would be for a specific purpose and I believe I am on record as stating that.
So, no, I don't think I've "ra-ra'd" that particular range apart from stating that I liked the initial idea.

Have a nice day/evening/whatever

H

 

[jazzeum]

Gents,

The rhetoric seems to be rising a little bit so I wonder if we can take it down slightly and be a bit more gentlemanly too each other

 

[Harrytheheid]

Gents,

The rhetoric seems to be rising a little bit so I wonder if we can take it down slightly and be a bit more gentlemanly too each other

Why certainly Brad.

I had no intention of responding any further on this line of tit-for-tat posts in any case.
I'm much more interested in discussing FL's figures and the hints at what's in store for collectors in future.
Any discussion of topics such as "jumping ship" can be carried out on the appropriate section of this forum. Not that I bother to look in there too much these days - as you well know.

Regards
Harry

 

[marco55]

I'm sorry if I offended anybody I just think all the manufacturers try to do a really good job of putting quality products out there for all of us to enjoy.
Mark

 

[jazzeum]

Thank you gentlemen.

 

[Harrytheheid]

Well, I'm sorry if I offended anybody too. I just think all the manufacturers are in the business of making money. Not that there's anything wrong with that of course.
Some do appear to try harder than others to put quality products out there for all of us to enjoy though. And without resorting to the kind of statements we've all seen before.

Regards
Harry

 

[Dragoon]

I do.

Actually, we'll discuss the scale of the figures in more detail when we actually release including updating the scales page on our website with images with rulers and a comparison photo. Suffice it to say, those of you wanting to add these to your existing collections will be hard pressed to get them to fit in with what you may already have from other makers. They're just stylistically so different than what's already out there. You are of course free to do what you want, however, they'll work best when displayed in their own displays. You'll see why soon enough.

The flip side to this, of course, is that we'll give you everything you'll need to create complete displays in their entirety with only our products. So if you have aleady invested heavily in a WWII collection, not to worry, our releases are extremely specific and can easily be a sub-collection within a broader WWII collection.

Regards,

Matt
First Legion Ltd

This thread had gone on for awhile so sorry if someone has already mentioned this, but Matt says they will provide EVERYTHING to create a complete display. Does this mean First Legion will also be making WWII tanks and other vehicles to go with their figures?