Nfl season 2017-2018 (2 Viewers)

sammy719 said:
Just read it, curious to know is it because of his play this season? trying to make sure he doesn't get hurt for next year?? or just a change for the team in general??
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I think the Giants expect to get one of the top 5 picks in next years draft and plan to take one of the big QB prospects. I imagine Eli will either mentor the prospect next year, or be done as the Giants' QB. Its pretty sad. The guy could have had a couple of good years left in him if the idiots in charge, GM Jerry Reese and Coach McAdoo had provided him with an offensive line that could protect him, and any kind of a descent running game.:mad:
 
jazzeum said:
The play of the entire team has been poor this season, including Eli. He was poor last Thursday but he has no offensive line, receivers or running backs. He’s the fall guy, the scapegoat for this season. It’s a gutless move. The Coach and GM need to go. McAdoo said that Geno Smith gives them the best chance to win. Are you kidding me? A sad joke.
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What a joke. I have no idea what the Maras and the Tisches are thinking leaving this team in the hands of Reese and McAdoo.:mad::mad:
 
zblang said:
As a pats fan, I’m afraid of the Steelers still. And in the Super Bowl, the eagles scare me! 😀
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Not sure what it is about the Steelers that scares you; the Patriots are 4-1 lifetime vs the Steelers in the playoffs, including 3-0 in the AFCCG and none of the three were remotely close. Belichick is famous for game planning to take away the one thing you do well on offense and to come up with schemes to confuse QB's. Green Bay hung 28 points on that defense with some tomato can as their QB and the Colts should have beaten them a few weeks ago with the Patriots third string QB behind center.

The Patriots are playing better on the road this year than at home as well.

As far as the Eagles; the NFC is loaded this year, it will be no piece of cake for them to get to the Super Bowl, the Seahawks, Vikings, Rams and Saints all have a say in this, not to mention the Falcons are playing well too..............again, that conference is just loaded.
 
jazzeum said:
Looks like the Eli reign is over. The Giants asked him if he wanted the option to start Sunday to extend his streak of consecutive games started as the Giants planned to then sub him for their other QBs. Eli declined and will not start.
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This story was picked up on local talk radio here today, then a debate started as to whether he'll make the HOF.

83.7 QB rating, led the league in INT's three times, made the playoffs 6 times in 13 years, was one and done in 4 of them, a lifetime record of 108-93.

In short, he's mediocre at best.

That said, he's a lock to get into the HOF, Mara will pull strings to get him in, he played on New York, plus this simpleton took down Brady/Belichick and the Patriots twice, the first time ruining the perfect season.

There is no way, no how this stooge does not get in.
 
Warrior said:
Not sure what it is about the Steelers that scares you; the Patriots are 4-1 lifetime vs the Steelers in the playoffs, including 3-0 in the AFCCG and none of the three were remotely close. Belichick is famous for game planning to take away the one thing you do well on offense and to come up with schemes to confuse QB's. Green Bay hung 28 points on that defense with some tomato can as their QB and the Colts should have beaten them a few weeks ago with the Patriots third string QB behind center.

The Patriots are playing better on the road this year than at home as well.

As far as the Eagles; the NFC is loaded this year, it will be no piece of cake for them to get to the Super Bowl, the Seahawks, Vikings, Rams and Saints all have a say in this, not to mention the Falcons are playing well too..............again, that conference is just loaded.
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To further expand on this; Brady is 5-1 vs the Tomlin coached Steelers, has thrown for an average of close to 400 yards per game, has a QB rating of 127.5 and last but not least, has thrown 22 TD's/ZERO INT's.

TWENTY TWO touchdowns.

ZERO interceptions.

Play zone, play man to man, do whatever you want to; some teams are just bad match ups, Steelers/Patriots, Steelers/Chiefs, Patriots/Ravens come to mind...................
 
Warrior said:
This story was picked up on local talk radio here today, then a debate started as to whether he'll make the HOF.

83.7 QB rating, led the league in INT's three times, made the playoffs 6 times in 13 years, was one and done in 4 of them, a lifetime record of 108-93.

In short, he's mediocre at best.

That said, he's a lock to get into the HOF, Mara will pull strings to get him in, he played on New York, plus this simpleton took down Brady/Belichick and the Patriots twice, the first time ruining the perfect season.

There is no way, no how this stooge does not get in.
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I'm not sure he'll get in the HOF but he's far from mediocre. You can't -- not that you are -- separate those two victories against the Pats from the remainder of his record. The first one is his legacy. In my opinion, the Giants were the better team in the second one.

At any rate, I don't think his career is over. If a new coach is hired, he may want to keep Eli. If the Giants release him, there will be no shortage of suitors.
 
poor guy hasn't had an offensive line in years...
they have had to make their living off their strong defense...
he's been lucky not to get the Theismann limp as much as he gets hit...
but that's the life of a pocket passer...
also his receiving corp is depleted this year...
which makes him look worse than he is...
nothing wrong with Eli that a couple of good pass blockers wouldn't cure...
his arm is still strong...
he can still throw the ball when he has time...
maybe he should sit out so he doesn't get killed this year...
draft him an offensive line...
 
jazzeum said:
In my opinion, the Giants were the better team in the second one.
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That's a joke right?

The Giants were 9-7, scored a whopping 394 points that year, their defense gave up 400 points, that's a point differential of MINUS 6.

The Patriots were 13-3, scored 521 points, gave up 342, that's a point differential of PLUS 179.

How in the name of Christ can you sit there and tell me that Giants team was better than the Patriots in 2011.

The Giants won that game thanks to a horseshit intentional grounding penalty on Brady in the end zone, he threw the ball down the middle of the field and got flagged, not to mention the horrible Welker drop on third down that he catches in his sleep 7 days a week and twice on Sunday.

The mind reels.
 
Not during the season obviously but in the SB, again obviously.
 
At AWS re:Invent (its a Cloud thing) and the NFL just did a presentation on Next Gen Stats. Basically all the players and fields have sensors that get fed into Machine Learning models and services.

Almost like being able to sit through post game review with coaches. Pretty cool.
 
Giant fans are venting today like I’ve never seen. Some say like it’s a loss in the family and so forth. That seems extreme. Yes, it was handled poorly but this day was coming. Very few get to choose the way we go out.
 
Warrior said:
To further expand on this; Brady is 5-1 vs the Tomlin coached Steelers, has thrown for an average of close to 400 yards per game, has a QB rating of 127.5 and last but not least, has thrown 22 TD's/ZERO INT's.

TWENTY TWO touchdowns.

ZERO interceptions.

Play zone, play man to man, do whatever you want to; some teams are just bad match ups, Steelers/Patriots, Steelers/Chiefs, Patriots/Ravens come to mind...................
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My reasoning for thinking that the Patriots are better than the Steelers, Jaguars and Ravens this year has to do with their defenses.

All four teams played against teams using a back-up QB this past week. The Patriots all but dominated Matt Moore and the Dolphin's offense. The Steelers (as Tom put it) made Brett Hundley look like Johnny Unitas and had to win on a last second field goal. The Ravens came within one drive of letting Tom Savage tie up their game. The Jags lost to a team QB'ed by Blaine Gabbert.

You have to wonder what Brady would be able to do against those defenses.
 
Panzer ace said:
My reasoning for thinking that the Patriots are better than the Steelers, Jaguars and Ravens this year has to do with their defenses.

All four teams played against teams using a back-up QB this past week. The Patriots all but dominated Matt Moore and the Dolphin's offense. The Steelers (as Tom put it) made Brett Hundley look like Johnny Unitas and had to win on a last second field goal. The Ravens came within one drive of letting Tom Savage tie up their game. The Jags lost to a team QB'ed by Blaine Gabbert.

You have to wonder what Brady would be able to do against those defenses.
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You seem rather critical of the Jaguars but they've had a winning season so far (the first one in 10 years) and they have Tom Coughlin running things, with Doug Marrone as Coach (the only Coach at Buffalo to have a winning record there since 2004) so they are in good hands and slowly getting better. If Eli leaves the Giants, it's possible he moves to Jacksonville (because of his relationship with Tom).
 
A sure sign that Thursday Night Football is a bad idea...My wife asked me what time the Redskin game started tonight...I looked at her, smacked my forehead and realized that I had completely forgotten that there was a game tonight and the Redskin/Cowboy game at that. If my wife hadn't asked about the game, I would have probably missed it, unless I ran across it while channel hopping. I simply can't remember or adjust to watching the NFL on Thursday nights. -- Al
 
jazzeum said:
The Broncos mess, https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...g=SNL-04-10aaa0b&ET_CID=34258&ET_RID=41399260
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That team is a steaming pile of hot garbage right now and it's not going to get better anytime soon............another example of a team that went all in, went to two Super Bowls, got demolished in one and played the fraud Panthers in the other........when you win a Super Bowl, the fans give you a lot of rope.

Only two short years removed from that Super Bowl win, the fans now want to hang Elway with that very same rope.
 
jazzeum said:
Giant fans are venting today like I’ve never seen. Some say like it’s a loss in the family and so forth. That seems extreme. Yes, it was handled poorly but this day was coming. Very few get to choose the way we go out.
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It's clear as day the Giants are in full on tank mode to put themselves in a position to draft another franchise QB; do the powers that be who control the Giants honestly expect their fans to believe the team has a better shot of winning with Geno Smith starting over Eli?

Tom Brady lost two Super Bowls to a guy who got benched for Geno Smith.

Sometimes the world makes no sense to me.
 
One of the funniest things that has come out of the Eli saga is fatso Francesa's comment regarding the current Giants coach; "Take a look at Eli's rings before you get shown the door as that's the closest you'll ever get to one".............ahem; sorry fatso, but he was the tight ends coach on the 2010 Packers who beat the Steelers (and thank Christ for that)..................what a stooge......................
 
You may think he's a stooge but there wouldn't have been a WFAN without him and there wouldn't have been sports radio with Francesa. He's retiring on December 15 and it won't be the same without him in the afternoons. Everyone one else pales in comparison to him.
 
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