Osama Bin Laden Killed By U.S. Bomb In Pakistan (1 Viewer)

[Combat]

I read there was no phone or internet at the compound. So there may not have been much data. Besides, the SEALs probably only had a short time till the 3 regiments of the Pakistani army nearby came to his rescue.

Terry

If it turns out he has been living in that house for the last five years, someone needs to be held accountable. The US has spent hundreds of millions in Pakistan and elsewhere looking for him and many have died in that effort. All the while the Pakistani government knew exactly where he was and lied about it. In my opinion that is an act of war according to the policies articulated by the US government after 9/11 which indicated that any country who gave him refuge would suffer the consequences. However, the US has shown no backbone when dealing with Pakistan under the deluded notion that they are allied with us in this effort. When just the opposite has been demonstrated time and again.

 

[theBaron]

...I don't give a flying toss what happened to Bin Laden, I really don't.

Along with all the other images every one of us will never forget from that day, one sticks in my mind. Later in the day in whichever country it was, Bin Ladens supporters were dancing joyfully in the streets and celebrating the murder of around three thousand people as if it were a family wedding. This morning I awoke to similar scenes in New York and outside the White house and with a smile I remembered that line from I don't know where;

' Let justice flow down like waters'

God Bless the relatives of those killed on that day, and god bless our American Allies.

Rob

I respect your opinion, Rob, but if I may offer another way of looking at this.

The people who died on 9/11 were innocent, and their deaths were murder. Bin Laden bore a large responsibility for causing their murder, and so, his death is justified, and they're celebrating justice served. I don't think there's a moral equivalence between those who celebrate today, and those who celebrated back then.

For the record, I'm not dancing in the streets, either. I'm glad we got him, but I noted above, it means that he's gotten his due for murdering innocents, but the war goes on. It's good news, but not the good news that we've gotten the last one, or that they've all agreed to live in peace with their neighbors. That would be the best of all news.

Prost!
Brad

 

[theBaron]

And if I may offer some levity...

Bin Laden dies and goes to his heaven. On reaching the gates, he's met by George Washington, Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and 68 other men in a group.

Bin Laden asks, "Where are the 72 virgins".

Washington replies, "Sorry, you've misheard, it's 72 Virginians."

Prost!
Brad

 

[Rob]

I respect your opinion, Rob, but if I may offer another way of looking at this.

The people who died on 9/11 were innocent, and their deaths were murder. Bin Laden bore a large responsibility for causing their murder, and so, his death is justified, and they're celebrating justice served. I don't think there's a moral equivalence between those who celebrate today, and those who celebrated back then.

For the record, I'm not dancing in the streets, either. I'm glad we got him, but I noted above, it means that he's gotten his due for murdering innocents, but the war goes on. It's good news, but not the good news that we've gotten the last one, or that they've all agreed to live in peace with their neighbors. That would be the best of all news.

Prost!
Brad

Brad, have we got crossed wires here?. What I'm saying is I was pleased to see the good people of New York and Washington celebrating because after all they'd been through they fully deserved it. I was not for one second comparing their celebrations with those on 9/11.

Cheers

Rob

 

[Mitch]

Thats what its all about and talk of defiling his body will certainly not bring about an end to the further loss of civillian life. It will only radicalise more to use the quran in its most twisted form and, bring us down to their level IMO. You can only do so much with a gun You only have to look at our battle with the IRA to see that.
Mitch

I respect your opinion, Rob, but if I may offer another way of looking at this.

The people who died on 9/11 were innocent, and their deaths were murder. Bin Laden bore a large responsibility for causing their murder, and so, his death is justified, and they're celebrating justice served. I don't think there's a moral equivalence between those who celebrate today, and those who celebrated back then.

For the record, I'm not dancing in the streets, either. I'm glad we got him, but I noted above, it means that he's gotten his due for murdering innocents, but the war goes on. It's good news, but not the good news that we've gotten the last one, or that they've all agreed to live in peace with their neighbors. That would be the best of all news.

Prost!
Brad

 

[theBaron]

Brad, have we got crossed wires here?. What I'm saying is I was pleased to see the good people of New York and Washington celebrating because after all they'd been through they fully deserved it. I was not for one second comparing their celebrations with those on 9/11.

Cheers

Rob

Sorry, Rob, I misunderstood you. I apologize for the confusion.

Prost!
Brad

 

[Mitch]

will Donald trump demand a death certificate!!!!!!
Mitch

 

[Rob]

Sorry, Rob, I misunderstood you. I apologize for the confusion.

Prost!
Brad

No problem Brad:smile2:

Best

Rob

 

[Gideon]

so, do we declare "mission accomplished" for real and bring our kids home or has the hard work "just begun"?

 

[Scott]

so, do we declare "mission accomplished" for real and bring our kids home or has the hard work "just begun"?

Any chance of declaring "victory" and leaving? I'll come to the Victory Parade!

 

[Combat]

Among the many conspiracy theories is that they never really wanted to catch Bin Laden or at least didn't try very hard. So long as he remained free there was a justification to remain in Afghanistan. It certainly provides closure in the minds of the public that will allow them to equate the loss of life over the last ten years with a tangible accomplishment. I certainly couldn't imagine ever leaving without having dealt with Bin Laden. Imagine if Hitler had gone into hiding after WWII and we never found him. He lived out his days in a mansion in Salzburg.

 

[Gideon]

there is so much that stinks about this. fishy and shifty. i hate to say it, but I don't trust one thing about anything concerning this.

 

[Combat]

Nice graphic of Bin Laden's compound in the Washington Post. Notice the satellite dish - I wonder if he was following the NBA playoffs?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/world/bin-laden-killed/?hpid=z3

 

[debrito]

You never know, there are some theories that Hitler lived a good life in Argentina for a long time...

What I found strange on this Bin Laden thing is: with Sadan Hussein, we saw pictures of his body after been killed, with Bin Laden they hurried to throw the guy into the sea....WHY?

But never mind.....

Among the many conspiracy theories is that they never really wanted to catch Bin Laden or at least didn't try very hard. So long as he remained free there was a justification to remain in Afghanistan. It certainly provides closure in the minds of the public that will allow them to equate the loss of life over the last ten years with a tangible accomplishment. I certainly couldn't imagine ever leaving without having dealt with Bin Laden. Imagine if Hitler had gone into hiding after WWII and we never found him. He lived out his days in a mansion in Salzburg.

 

[theBaron]

It was the Pentavirate, Sonny Jim, they're behind the whole thing.

 

[Combat]

I'm sure there will be photos released once the furor dies down a bit. They are obviously concerned about a potential backlash. Some people wouldn't believe they got him though if they put him on float in the Rose Bowl parade.

 

[Wraith]

What I found strange on this Bin Laden thing is: with Sadan Hussein, we saw pictures of his body after been killed, with Bin Laden they hurried to throw the guy into the sea....WHY?

BBC state that he was shot in the head. Don't know what with, but there might not be that much left to show photos of.......

 

[Rob]

There is a picture on the internet claiming to be his body, close up shot with hole in head, but some are claiming its a fake.

Rob

 

[Phantom Warrior]

There is a picture on the internet claiming to be his body, close up shot with hole in head, but some are claiming its a fake.

Rob

It's possible. The entire raid seems to have been filmed. There may even be video of osama using his wife as a shield and getting shot. But I doubt the public will ever see that.

Terry

 

[Rutledge]

You never know, there are some theories that Hitler lived a good life in Argentina for a long time...

What I found strange on this Bin Laden thing is: with Sadan Hussein, we saw pictures of his body after been killed, with Bin Laden they hurried to throw the guy into the sea....WHY?

But never mind.....

Many recorded Saddam's hanging on their video phones (at least up until a point). His final resting place is still unknown, I believe.

We dont want OBL's grave to become a pilgramage site. The sooner we are rid of his evil reamains, the less opportunity to debate "what should be done with them". Now, there is no chance for discussion. He is somewhere at the bottom of the ocean. Nothing to talk about. He is dead and gone, end of the matter.

You can never satisfy some people. Its why there are silly theories about fake moon landings, alien abductions and 9/11 "conspiracists". Best to ignore the loons and just get the job done.

Update: "CAIRO – Muslim clerics said Monday that Osama bin Laden's burial at sea was a violation of Islamic tradition that may further provoke militant calls for revenge attacks against American targets.

Although there appears to be some room for debate over the burial — as with many issues within the faith — a wide range of senior Islamic scholars interpreted it as a humiliating disregard for the standard Muslim practice of placing the body in a grave with the head pointed toward the holy city of Mecca.

Sea burials can be allowed, they said, but only in special cases where the death occurred aboard a ship.

Bin Laden's burial at sea "runs contrary to the principles of Islamic laws, religious values and humanitarian customs," said Sheik Ahmed al-Tayeb, the grand Imam of Cairo's al-Azhar mosque, Sunni Islam's highest seat of learning.

A radical cleric in Lebanon, Omar Bakri Mohammed, said, "The Americans want to humiliate Muslims through this burial, and I don't think this is in the interest of the U.S. administration."