US/Israel Launches Op Epic Fury Against Iran (11 Viewers)

[Deitz]

Yeah, I have looked this up many times as it is irritating. Basically, considered commodity risk, so they legally draw the line this way to "prevent" price gouging................huh? As I have said many times, you literally just can't make any of this up when common sense situations turn political.

I think I mentioned this before - in Maryland up until last year, we were able to shop our electric distribution on the market, and I had a contract with Dominion for about 7 years at an average of 7.8 cents/kw. Wes Moreless came into power and the passed Protect Maryland Consumer Act (some dumb name) which now makes it impossible for other suppliers to sell into Maryland. Dominion notified me that my contract ended and they would not renew............so now I am stuck with 1 option - BGE - the price is now 13.9cents/kw and rising. Like I said, you can't make it up, but they are protecting me.

Message for Mike, Jason and other Texans - you may want to complain about certain things happening in your State or the weather, but in all seriousness, be thankful you live there as it is much more expensive and worse policies in a good majority of other States (of course not all, so Floridians, Kentucky, Carolinas and Georgians on here don't yell at me!). Another of my cousins just moved there in the last few years, he was originally Maryland, then Delaware (which is not bad except for Winter). He continually reminds me of his savings and he has sticker shock when he visits me in Maryland. If you all ever want to read about factual comparisons of States, there is an annual report put out by the Tax Foundation, it is non-partisan. IT compares a myriad of data points and you would not believe the costs in the ten most expensive States.

Last year ten worst States (cost wise)
41. Massachusetts
42. Hawaii
43. Vermont
44. Minnesota
45. Washington
46. Maryland
47. Connecticut
48. California
49. New Jersey
50. New York

Comment - I believe New York became the worst in 2025 flip flopping with California from 2024. NJ stayed steady at 2nd worst.
Last year ten Best States

1. Wyoming
2. South Dakota
3. Alaska
4. Florida
5. Montana
6. New Hampshire
7. Texas
8. Tennessee
9. North Dakota
10. Indiana

Now to be fair, 11 thru about 30 are now terrible either. It is really the last 20 that rise dramatically. Also for the board Illinois is 37. Kentucky is 22. North Carolina is 12.

Tom

I thought Illinois would be in the 40s.

 

[Combat]

I meant today, because of nukes...

The US has paid to defend S. Korea for 70 years and counting. We continue to do so until the present day. I think we have done plenty in that context while no one else has done anything. Not sure what point you are trying to make. If you are trying to argue that it makes no sense to single out Iran from other bad guys to get attacked, that doesn't work. Iran sits in the midst of a region that supplies most of the world's oil. If they had a nuclear weapon and used it on Israel, it could be the end of times.

 

[damian]

I am not saying you are not broaching on good points. However, the part of history that is being glossed over is that no matter what Israel does/did in Gaza and the West Bank is that the rockets never stopped firing from those arears not did the suicide vests stop exploding.

My point is everyone wants to blame the current Israeli leadership, but it is hard to blame them IMO. Every peace offering over the last nearly 80 years has been eventually met with rockets that Israel didn't invite. If I were them, I would be aggressive also. The current press and opposition likes to omit the fact that again, no matter what course Israel took in the past, it was met with Rocket fire. I am not generalizing or trying to excuse the colonialization, just stating a fact that gets lost.

Tom

Israel has to remain a democratic Sparta for all time. Armed to the teeth and ever vigilant. If they let their guard down for a minute they get attacked.

 

[OzDigger]

Meanwhile in Australia:

 

[Desertkiwi]

Hi, Radicals on both sides are the problem I believe, as I mentioned. After all these years, escalation on both sides will take them nowhere, I guess. This reminds me of Northern Ireland, no solution till they got to a peace agreement. There were peace attempts in the past that radicals managed to sabotage. Surely Israel has a right to self defend and few options, but they are also guilty of excesses in the West Bank and in Gaza in my view, which aggravate mutual hatred, not just the Palestinians are guilty. I dislike the crowd you mention by the way... Not so sure about the Koran, it is what the fanatics make of it, as with every religion.
What I do admit is that it is very easy to comment from far away instead of being in the thick of the fight...

I don't like the slaughter anymore than the next person, however there's no negotiating with the likes of the Islamic republic of Iran and its many disciples. History has proven this time and time again, sadly some in the west are slow learners.

The Troubles of Northern Ireland are tame compared to this situation, however I acknowledge your point.

In regards to Israeli, they should never have relinquished control of the conquered territories of Gaza or the Westbank IMO. That was a mistake that they have been paying for in blood ever since, however intense outside western influence pressured them to make that regrettable decision.

To grasp any understanding of the current conflict between the West and Islam you must at least gain a basic understanding of the teachings of the Koran.

I don't want to sound like a know it all, however the Christian and Islamic faiths are polar opposites, with one praising death and the other rejoicing life. Western media like to water this down and refer to Muslim fanatic's, however they are simply following the teachings within the Koran and everyone's friend Mr Mohammad.

There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim.

 

[Buster]

In regards to Israeli, they should never have relinquished control of the conquered territories of Gaza or the Westbank IMO. That was a mistake that they have been paying for in blood ever since, however intense outside western influence pressured them to make that regrettable decision.

To grasp any understanding of the current conflict between the West and Islam you must at least gain a basic understanding of the teachings of the Koran.

I don't want to sound like a know it all, however the Christian and Islamic faiths are polar opposites, with one praising death and the other rejoicing life. Western media like to water this down and refer to Muslim fanatic's, however they are simply following the teachings within the Koran and everyone's friend Mr Mohammad.

There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim.

Exactly ... when the rulers of a country who been trying to develop nuclear weapons to use against their "perceived adversaries" and begin and end every speech with "Death to America and death to Isreal", maybe after 47 years and untold acts of terrorism and broken treaties, they should be taken seriously at their word.

B.

 

[VIRIATO]

The US has paid to defend S. Korea for 70 years and counting. We continue to do so until the present day. I think we have done plenty in that context while no one else has done anything. Not sure what point you are trying to make. If you are trying to argue that it makes no sense to single out Iran from other bad guys to get attacked, that doesn't work. Iran sits in the midst of a region that supplies most of the world's oil. If they had a nuclear weapon and used it on Israel, it could be the end of times.

No point at all. Just wanted to hear people's thoughts on this. As you say the Iran regime is a clear danger for the whole world, especially to Israel. So the choice is obvious. Better to attack now while they don't have nukes, otherwise...

 

[VIRIATO]

Now, the following is not my opinion, I am not sufficiently informed on this, but a respected commentator here wrote this :
"However, the real story goes back to the presidency of Obama, when the United States and Iran signed a nuclear agreement, despite all of Israel’s attempts to prevent it. Under the terms of that agreement, Iran could not enrich uranium beyond 3.65% and only for civilian purposes (whereas about 70% enrichment is required for military purposes), and it subjected itself to regular inspections by the International Atomic Energy Agency.

When Trump came to power in his first term, he immediately set about tearing up the agreement, leaving Iran free to continue developing its nuclear program: Trump and his “friend” Netanyahu were certainly already considering other ways to deal with the issue. Curiously, at the same time as he was tearing up the agreement signed with Iran, he signed another one with the Taliban in Afghanistan, agreeing to withdraw the troops and hand the country over to medieval barbarism and to the death of all those who had cooperated with the Allies."
Just food for debate in case you like this kind of debates...

 

[OzDigger]

I don't like the slaughter anymore than the next person, however there's no negotiating with the likes of the Islamic republic of Iran and its many disciples. History has proven this time and time again, sadly some in the west are slow learners.

The Troubles of Northern Ireland are tame compared to this situation, however I acknowledge your point.

In regards to Israeli, they should never have relinquished control of the conquered territories of Gaza or the Westbank IMO. That was a mistake that they have been paying for in blood ever since, however intense outside western influence pressured them to make that regrettable decision.

To grasp any understanding of the current conflict between the West and Islam you must at least gain a basic understanding of the teachings of the Koran.

I don't want to sound like a know it all, however the Christian and Islamic faiths are polar opposites, with one praising death and the other rejoicing life. Western media like to water this down and refer to Muslim fanatic's, however they are simply following the teachings within the Koran and everyone's friend Mr Mohammad.

There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim.

We have a lot of moderate Muslims in Australia, of course you will always get some fanatics...for any cause.