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I think teams the Astros, Mets and Sox do not have the luxury of time when it comes to hiring a manager.

Rojas seems like a good fit for a building/upcoming team where a Dusty Baker type would fit with an established team like Boston or Houston.
 
So there is panic in the streets in Boston over the possibility that the Red Sox are looking to move Mookie Betts.

Sorry, I don't get it.

He's made it pretty clear he does not want to resign here, Atlanta seems his likely landing spot as he is from there. Players have the right to play where they want to play and sign where they want to sign.

They really can't afford him even if he did want to stay here thanks to the God awful contracts they are saddled with in Sale, Price and Eovaldi, not to mention Pedrioa, who has not played in three years and can barely walk is still on the books.

Whoever the person was who a.) Negotiated guaranteed contracts into the MLB CBA should have a statue built in his honor by the players and b.) Whoever the idiot was who agreed to it on the owners side shoudl be tarred and feathered.

Pedrioa is example A of how horrible guaranteed contracts are; I heard he basically won't retire until the contract runs out due to the labor union putting pressure on him not to, talk about a farce.

The Red Sox should trade Betts for a package of good, young talent as thanks to Dombrowski and his idiotic trades, their farm system is barren, I'd also dump Price to anyone dumb enough to take him.

They still don't have a manager in place; they should just tank in 2020 and 2021 and reload for 2022; it won't matter anyway, the Yankees look like shoe ins to go 162-0 the next two years and win the WS going away, so that difference does it make.

Between the Patriots being on the back nine, the Red Sox being a tire fire/the Yankees being absolutely loaded/the Lakers being back on top, that is a Boston fans worst nightmare, seeing the Yankees rip off two or three WS titles in a row and seeing the Lakers and LeFraud preening around with a trophy.

I love how people whine about the Patriots cheating, yet LeFraud colluded with Anthony Davis to get him to come to LA; so cheating of that type is fine and dandy then.....................

Good to know.
 
Being a Pirate fan, I have outright hatred for the Braves. May they never win another game that matters my entire life and I would be thrilled.

TD

LOL. I presume your ******* are all still in a wad from the NLCS game 20 plus years ago in which former Pirate and slow motion runner Sid Bream slid into home in the bottom of the ninth to win the series for the Braves and advance to the WS.

I was at that game. It was a super exciting moment that I remember well to this day. I bear the Pirates bear no ill will as a result.....😉
 
I think teams the Astros, Mets and Sox do not have the luxury of time when it comes to hiring a manager.

Rojas seems like a good fit for a building/upcoming team where a Dusty Baker type would fit with an established team like Boston or Houston.

I’m surprised that the Astros and Red Sox haven’t yet hired a manager. ST is around the corner.
 
I’m surprised that the Astros and Red Sox haven’t yet hired a manager. ST is around the corner.

I think Dusty Baker is a strong candidate for the Houston job, he has the experience and is a positive hire for a franchise that needs some good press.
 
I think Dusty Baker is a strong candidate for the Houston job, he has the experience and is a positive hire for a franchise that needs some good press.
Dusty was very popular here in DC. Most Nats fans were sorry to see him go and viewed his release as a mistake by ownership, especially after Martinez struggled his first year. I wish him success where ever he lands. -- Al
 
Reports are the Red Sox have made extension offers to Betts in each of the last three offseasons, with last year's proposal coming at 10 years, $300 million. Betts, however, countered with an asking price of 12 years, $420 million.

12 years...………….420 million?

Adios Mookie.

Unbelievable...………………...sports is becoming such a non factor in my life.

35 million dollars a year to play a kids game.


 
The Giants are a great example of what happens when a team is stuck with huge contracts.

While they did win three World Series recently, they are now one of the worst teams in MLB. It will take years to get out from under some of the huge contracts they paid out.

The bigger problem is that most fans have already forgotten about the championships, they want results now.
 
Baseball Bizarro World fact: When spring training opens, it will find the Nats and Astros sharing the same training facility and it will find Dusty Baker as the Astros manager, just 3 seasons removed as manager of the Nats. Should make for some very interesting conversations around West Palm Beach. Now, this is a fun question, but when the Nats and Astros play each other during the spring, at their home facility, will there be any winners, considering that neither team could win at home during the WS? My brain reels with the possibilities.:wink2: -- Al
 
Baseball Bizarro World fact: When spring training opens, it will find the Nats and Astros sharing the same training facility and it will find Dusty Baker as the Astros manager, just 3 seasons removed as manager of the Nats. Should make for some very interesting conversations around West Palm Beach. Now, this is a fun question, but when the Nats and Astros play each other during the spring, at their home facility, will there be any winners, considering that neither team could win at home during the WS? My brain reels with the possibilities.:wink2: -- Al

One analyst on the MLB Network pointed out that Baker is one of the most respected guys in the league, both by players and fans. Houston is going to get booed mercilessly on the road, but Baker may help keep some of that to a minimum.
 
Betts and Price dealt to the Dodgers, details to follow,

Whatever they got, it won't be enough, it never is when you dump a superstar a year out from free agency.

Oh boy, here we go...................
 
If this trade means the Dodgers beat the Gashouse Gorillas in the WS, I'm fine with it.

If they blow yet another WS, I'll be furious.
 
The Betts trade brings up the specter of the Babe Ruth trade. A little over 100 years ago, Ruth got traded. Now, will the trade of one of baseball's best players in Mookie Betts, lead to another curse on Boston...the curse of the Mook? :rolleyes2: -- Al
 
The Angels have quietly become really good.

Their 2, 3, 4 and 5 now looks like this

2. Pederson
3. Rendon
4. Trout
5. Ohtani
 
The Angels have quietly become really good.

Their 2, 3, 4 and 5 now looks like this

2. Pederson
3. Rendon
4. Trout
5. Ohtani
Their hitting will be formidable, their SP is still a big question mark as Teheran and Bundy are hardly viable #1 or #2 type aces. With almost 2 dozen pitchers on the current roster, they might find a hidden gem or two to help out once spring training gets underway but they do not have an ace to anchor the staff as things stand now. -- Al
 
Their hitting will be formidable, their SP is still a big question mark as Teheran and Bundy are hardly viable #1 or #2 type aces. With almost 2 dozen pitchers on the current roster, they might find a hidden gem or two to help out once spring training gets underway but they do not have an ace to anchor the staff as things stand now. -- Al

The Angels would be in good shape if pitching was only a question mark. You can rely on Teheran, Heaney and Ohtani. After that, who knows? Finishing 500 would be a good season. Perhaps Joe Maddon can work wonders.
 
The Betts trade brings up the specter of the Babe Ruth trade. A little over 100 years ago, Ruth got traded. Now, will the trade of one of baseball's best players in Mookie Betts, lead to another curse on Boston...the curse of the Mook? :rolleyes2: -- Al

A big market team crying about payroll and the luxury tax, not to mention a billionaire ownership group.

Cry me a river.

They traded away a generational player in basically a salary dump.

Betts on the other hand has made it crystal clear he is going to free agency, he wants what's his, he'll settle for nothing less than 40 million a year.

Player salaries in sports, specifically baseball, are totally absurd, I'm losing interest in all sports by the day.

This will free up my Summer, they'll be lucky to win 80 games.

And with Spring training looming, would be nice to name a manager at some point too.
 
A big market team crying about payroll and the luxury tax, not to mention a billionaire ownership group.

Cry me a river.

They traded away a generational player in basically a salary dump.

Betts on the other hand has made it crystal clear he is going to free agency, he wants what's his, he'll settle for nothing less than 40 million a year.

Player salaries in sports, specifically baseball, are totally absurd, I'm losing interest in all sports by the day.

This will free up my Summer, they'll be lucky to win 80 games.

And with Spring training looming, would be nice to name a manager at some point too.

The Dodger fans are gaga about the trade but I had never even heard of the guy. At first I thought they had traded for Mookie Wilson. Many of these blockbuster trades are duds. Maybe the BoSox know something. I think the smart move is to unload players when they start negotiating for long term blockbuster deals. Most GMs don't want to take the heat from fans for letting a star player go but as often as not it is the best move.
 
The Dodger fans are gaga about the trade but I had never even heard of the guy. At first I thought they had traded for Mookie Wilson. Many of these blockbuster trades are duds. Maybe the BoSox know something. I think the smart move is to unload players when they start negotiating for long term blockbuster deals. Most GMs don't want to take the heat from fans for letting a star player go but as often as not it is the best move.

To expand on your point; both sides here are to blame.

The Red Sox made the classic mistake of wanting to keep the 2018 band together after the WS win; they gave Sale a huge extention when there was no need plus he's a medical question mark, they resigned the corpse of Steve Pearce after he won the WS MVP; much like Howie Kendrick last year, a journeyman tomato can who got hot in the playoffs, so did Pearce, they should have just let him walk, ******* move resigning him, then they really screwed the pooch by resigning Eovaldi, the hero of game 3, a game they lost by the way.

Rewarding players for past performance is NEVER a good idea.

Due to those boneheaded decisions and also thanks to the moronic concept of guaranteed contracts, they are also still paying Sandoval and Pedroia, neither of whom are still on the team, they are over the luxury tax amount and are getting whacked.

then Mookie keeps rebuffing their offers, he said no to 10/300...…………….really?

THIRTY million dollars a year is not enough; apparently not, he wants 12/420 which as one of our talk show hosts said, is his way of saying "I am going to ask for an idiotic number because I know there is no way you're going to pay it, what I really want is to be a free agent and test the market."

Adios then.

As far as you never hearing of him; probably because in the WS, he was invisible, didn't hit his weight, he pretty much sucked all post season long in 2018, so again, good luck to him.
 
Mookie Betts Baseball Trade: My Thoughts...Anymore thoughts?

It’s been over 24 hours since the big Betts trade.

IMO: The real villain is the Luxury Tax rule that makes the Red Sox Betts a mandate. Socialism; Yes it is and has it really restored competitive balance in the MLB by redistributing revenues? But what about The Kansas City Royals?

Rarely do you have the KC’s of the world winning the WS or frankly upping their payroll to compete with the large market teams, but instead they pocket it $$$ and continue to scream poverty. Instead, mediocrity is the norm among “small market” teams…So, did the Luxury Tax really accomplish its goal??? NO!!!!

Shouldn’t small market teams have the best & most prospects because have reinvested well in their farm systems: Spoiler Alert: They Don’t!!!!!

Then, does the “Luxury Tax” rules serve the small market fan well?…NO; it’s an illusion with rare exceptions. Does, it favor the “Player Association” and frankly the player? NO, because the Luxury Tax acts as a “de-facto” salary cap. Another, anti-free market tactic!

Frankly, if the Luxury Tax disappeared tomorrow and the Dodger didn’t get Betts and David Price in this kind of trade, I’d be okay with it. Why? Because the Dodger (my team) would have a better chance to retain such talents as Cody Bellinger, Walker Buehler, etc.). Yes, I am a myopic baseball fan.

My Betts Trade Opinion: Well, its great for the Dodgers because they’re deep in talent and had payroll room. Besides, If Betts goes free agent, the Dodger have another $27M to go spend next year.

Here’s a crazy idea: Red Sox made the sacrifice for 2020 (still might make “Wild Card”), but sign Betts 2021+. Yet they still have Verdugo and Graterol paying them peanuts with free agency years away.

Just a thought but it’s still hell on the Red Sox short term, but they still got rid of at least 50% of Price’s contract making it the Dodgers problem.

Yeah, the Red Sox will be back. They're class organization. BEAT THE YANKS!!! LOL

Carlos
 

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