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[Louis Badolato]

I will be honest, as a Cardinals fan, I feel torn on the issue of Albert. On one hand, he was such an amazing player and positive clubhouse presence that it is tough to see him go. His production will certainly be missed and it would have been nice to see such an iconic 'modern' player show the team loyalty for his career.

However, I also don't think there are 10 years of All-Star production left in the tank. Don't get me wrong, even in an off-year Albert could put up some numbers, but I doubt that he will be worth $25 millon a season by 2021. It also means the Cards can do a lot with the freed-up cash they have now.

Noah

As great as Pujols is, I happen to think the Cardinals did better not signing him to a ten year 210 million dollar contract, much less the 250 million dollar deal the Angels signed him to. The Yankees, who have far and away the most revenue in baseball are already regretting signing A-Rod to a 10 year deal for north of 200 million. Absent the steriods he is already breaking down physically and is basically a DH who will hit .280 and hit 25-30 homers and we have 5 more years at 25 million plus. The Yankees, however, will suck up the loss, let A-Rod ride the pine, and sign another big free agent in a couple of years when he completely breaks down.

Like A-Rod, Pujols will produce well for the first 5 years of the contract, but when he hits his late 30's the Angels are are going to be paying 25 million a year for an aging player whose numbers will go way down. Neither the Angels, nor the Cardinals had they signed Pujols, will be in a position to afford to eat that contract. The Angels may win a title in the first half of the contract, which may make it withwhile for them, but their fans are going to suffer 5 seasons of regret on the tail end of it.

 

[Simpson & his donkey.]

As great as Pujols is, I happen to think the Cardinals did better not signing him to a ten year 210 million dollar contract, much less the 250 million dollar deal the Angels signed him to. The Yankees, who have far and away the most revenue in baseball are already regretting signing A-Rod to a 10 year deal for north of 200 million. Absent the steriods he is already breaking down physically and is basically a DH who will hit .280 and hit 25-30 homers and we have 5 more years at 25 million plus. The Yankees, however, will suck up the loss, let A-Rod ride the pine, and sign another big free agent in a couple of years when he completely breaks down.

Like A-Rod, Pujols will produce well for the first 5 years of the contract, but when he hits his late 30's the Angels are are going to be paying 25 million a year for an aging player whose numbers will go way down. Neither the Angels, nor the Cardinals had they signed Pujols, will be in a position to afford to eat that contract. The Angels may win a title in the first half of the contract, which may make it withwhile for them, but their fans are going to suffer 5 seasons of regret on the tail end of it.

Gee the money they offer big sport stars really is a joke. Every country is screaming for more doctors and hospitals to be built . You just have to wonder don't you. Simmo.

 

[Warrior]

And in unrelated news, a trade was announced in the NBA today sending Chris Paul to the Lakers, paving the way for Howard to then join the team and form "Miami West", but the owners, who actually all own the Hornets, have attempted to veto the trade.

Why didn't the NBA just stay locked out and do us all a favor.........

 

[gk5717]

And in unrelated news, a trade was announced in the NBA today sending Chris Paul to the Lakers, paving the way for Howard to then join the team and form "Miami West", but the owners, who actually all own the Hornets, have attempted to veto the trade.

Why didn't the NBA just stay locked out and do us all a favor.........

What is the NBA? Really does anybody care about these thugs?
Gary

 

[lancer]

It all comes clear. Watching a baseball report show and the Angels have just finished a TV contract for televising their games for the next 20 years that will pay the club 3 billion dollars. Must have been in their pocket when they spent all that money for Pujols and Wilson. Those salaries are mear chump change to the tv deal. -- Al

 

[lancer]

For crying out loud. Another drug scandel, now with NL MVP Ryan Braun. Going to be real interested to see where this one goes. Braun's rep is claiming that there is an explanation that will clear Braun. Isn't that what they all say? Jeez, I hope he's innocent and that this is just a mistake of some sort. -- Al

 

[Combat]

For crying out loud. Another drug scandel, now with NL MVP Ryan Braun. Going to be real interested to see where this one goes. Braun's rep is claiming that there is an explanation that will clear Braun. Isn't that what they all say? Jeez, I hope he's innocent and that this is just a mistake of some sort. -- Al

And he was the guy who advised others to come clean. LOL. It reminds me of Kenny Powers on "Eastbound and Down."

 

[DMNamiot]

Hi Guys,

Ryan Braun is claiming innocence, what could be the excuse? Is it his urine or blood that was tested or did he borrow it? Got it from Manny in a trade? Sorry to see a young guy like this is potentially a fraud. I wish MLB would get this stupidity under control. Should be interesting to see how this one plays out if he did it 50 games out isnt enough maybe they should ban him for life like Pete Rose.
Oh wait a minute Pete did something much worse he gambled...

Dave

 

[maddadicus]

For crying out loud. Another drug scandel, now with NL MVP Ryan Braun. Going to be real interested to see where this one goes. Braun's rep is claiming that there is an explanation that will clear Braun. Isn't that what they all say? Jeez, I hope he's innocent and that this is just a mistake of some sort. -- Al

I expect George to call me out on this, but it does make one wonder how Big Papi had such a rebound year and how has Bautista become such a power beast.

2006 Bautista

Gm. AB. Runs Hits 2B 3B HR RBI BB KS CS SB BA. OBP. Slg. OPS.

PIT
117 400 58 94 20 3 16 51 46 110 2 5 .235 .335 .420 .755
2007

PIT
142 532 75 135 36 2 15 63 68 101 6 3 .254 .339 .414 .753
2008

TOR
21 56 7 12 2 0 3 10 2 14 0 0 .214 .237 .411 .648
2008

PIT
107 314 38 76 15 0 12 44 38 77 1 1 .242 .325 .404 .729
2008 Totals 2 teams

128 370 45 88 17 0 15 54 40 91 1 1 .238 .313 .405 .718
2009

TOR
113 336 54 79 13 3 13 40 56 85 4 0 .235 .349 .408 .757
2010

TOR
161 569 109 148 35 3 54 124 100 116 9 2 .260 .378 .617 .995
2011

TOR
149 513 105 155 24 2 43 103 132 111 9 5 .302 .447 .608 1.055

 

[jazzeum]

Before we go and try and convict him, let him try to explain himself, which is what we do in this country before convicting someone.

He is viewed as one of the good guys and it would be extremely disappointing if he had in fact done it.

 

[lancer]

ESPN reporting the prosecutors want Bonds to serve 15 months. The NYY's have resigned Fred Garcia to a 1 year deal and the Cards got Furcal for a 2 year deal. -- Al

 

[DMNamiot]

Before we go and try and convict him, let him try to explain himself, which is what we do in this country before convicting someone.

He is viewed as one of the good guys and it would be extremely disappointing if he had in fact done it.

hi Brad,

I'm not convicting him, he needs to be examined and examined closely because he is the NL MVP and was singled out as a guy who is doing this game right by our illustrious commish. Sorry for all of his fans and for MLB but seriously he is going to be lucky if he gets this over turned since in all the time they have been doing this teasting they have never had an appeal stand. Seems to me that if he did it and is suspended 50 games his status as MVP needs to be relooked as well as his big contract.

Dave

 

[jazzeum]

Dave,

I agree that the chances of him getting out of it is not great but from what I've read he's not the one you would have expected to do this, not to mention his career stats have been pretty consistent. The talk about this almost dwarfed the Packers yesterday in Wisconsin.

He doesn't seem to be Manny or Barry Bonds type but a genuine likeable individual, which is why this is a headscratcher. I know we're used to denials and as they say on the cop shows, there's no one in prison who's guilty, but he strongly denies it. I just hope that's correct and he didn't do it.

Brad

 

[Fusilier]

I certainly hope Braun is cleared of this. While I'm not a Brewers fan, I do think Braun is a good player who seems to be well-respected in the league. This kind of news, even if just idle suspicions, is never good for the game.

Noah

 

[Combat]

According to SI:

"Ryan Braun's positive test for testosterone showed a level that was extremely elevated, and likely the highest that has been recorded in Major League Baseball, according to sources with knowledge of the NL MVP's test."

 

[jazzeum]

I heard that yesterday and, if true, what was he thinking?

 

[lancer]

Well, not to be too negative, but if the levels were as high as SI indicated, that would kind of eliminate any kind of accidental doping, it would seem to me. This is a shame. -- Al

 

[Combat]

I heard that yesterday and, if true, what was he thinking?

The article notes that he was tested before and after and showed no elevated signs. He is claiming there was something in a dietary supplement that produced the results (ie it was not intentional). History has demonstrated that many of these players are egomaniacs who will say anything to save their reputations. So who knows. I think his goose is cooked though for any appeal.

 

[Louis Badolato]

The article notes that he was tested before and after and showed no elevated signs. He is claiming there was something in a dietary supplement that produced the results (ie it was not intentional). History has demonstrated that many of these players are egomaniacs who will say anything to save their reputations. So who knows. I think his goose is cooked though for any appeal.

Dietary supplement, accidental ingestion? Where have I heard this before. Oh yeah, Mark McGuire, Barry Bonds, David Ortiz . . . common man! Considering that dietary supplements are not approved by the FDA, many players have claimed to have accidentally taken steriods as a result, and that the league keeps a list of supplements it has tested and Okayed for use, this excuse does not fly for me.

I read an article that said that in 2003, the year that A-Roid won the MVP with Texas while admittedly on the juice, 6 of the top 10 finishers in he MVP vote were later tainted by steriods (A-Rod, Giambi, Manny Ramirez, David Ortiv, Vernon Wells, Carlos Delgado), and there are rumors about a 7th (Nomar Garciaparra). What a disgrace! I guess Braun joins this tainted company.

 

[lancer]

I see that the Red Sox traded for Houston's closer, Mark Melancon, by sending Lowrie and Weiland to the Astros. Sounds like a good pick-up for what was paid. -- Al