Conte ACW Play Time (2 Viewers)

Beautifully staged and photograph Joe and happy to see you've continued joining me at play. Thanks for sharing the hours taken putting it all together to bring it to us my friend. Couldn't pass on using the photo featured in the calendar.

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Beautifully staged and photograph Joe and happy to see you've continued joining me at play. Thanks for sharing the hours taken putting it all together to bring it to us my friend. Couldn't pass on using the photo featured in the calendar.

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Great calendar Joe {bravo}}:salute:::salute::

Cheers mate

Martyn:)
 
Re: It's "that guy" again.

Why do the two color bearers have bayonet scabbards? Color bearers wear NCO swords. Neither appear to have flag holder baldricks. If they are part of the color guard who picked up the colors (dropping their rifles) after the color bearers fell then it is too much of a coincidence that both men are sergeants. The sergeant with a pistol is a stretch especially if armed with a rifle. There's way too much going on that needs explanation with this otherwise dramatic set of figures.

Check your history-Battle of Gaines Mill June 27th 1862

5th New York Zouaves-When Color Sergeant Francis Spelman collapsed with heat stroke, the regimental flag was raised by Sergeant John H Berrian. Enraged because his brother had been killed moments before he carried the blue banner forward. Inspired by Berrian's gesture Sergeant Andrew Allison joined him with the national colors

The figures depicted are spot on and darn accurate.
 
Re: It's "that guy" again.

Check your history-Battle of Gaines Mill June 27th 1862

5th New York Zouaves-When Color Sergeant Francis Spelman collapsed with heat stroke, the regimental flag was raised by Sergeant John H Berrian. Enraged because his brother had been killed moments before he carried the blue banner forward. Inspired by Berrian's gesture Sergeant Andrew Allison joined him with the national colors

The figures depicted are spot on and darn accurate.


Cool! Thanks for answering my questions. No plaque was visible.
 
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This is mostly Conte, but everyone was invited to this party.

As I commented in the Dioram Section . . . Bored Tonight . . ., This is a very well done photo, perhaps one of your best. I love the depth you got with this one. We need to get together and schedule a play day sometime Joe . . .
:smile2: Mike
 
Home now...let me see......

Don Troiani's Civil War
By Don Troiani, Brian C. Pohanka

Page 26

I don't see a pistol mentioned or shown in Mr. Troiani's painting or the late Mr. Pohanka's text.
 
As I commented in the Dioram Section . . . Bored Tonight . . ., This is a very well done photo, perhaps one of your best. I love the depth you got with this one. We need to get together and schedule a play day sometime Joe . . .
:smile2: Mike

Thanks Mike.

As you know, with me it is all trial and error and sometimes I get lucky. Why this one came out with such incredible depth of field, I don't know. Now I'm thinking of moving all the drama to the near end of the fence and see if I can get similar results with a better foreground.
I could sure use a couple of dozen of your Britains rebs for this one! I think I've used all my rebs, metal and plastic, except for the artillery and character figures.

Take care, my friend.

Joe
 
Well Reb, I wasn't familiar with the incident although I did know of the 5th's near destruction at the battle. It's my history so I thought I'd better look it up as you called me on it. Two modern artists of some renown, Keith Rocco and Don Troiani, have portrayed the incident as a desperate last stand rather than an attack. I have to also go on Brian Pohanka's interpretation in the Troiani book of the period incident as I had known him from reenacting (he was an "officer" in the 5th N.Y. reenactment group) and his reputation as a scholar. The Conte interpretation of the two real men is like Sergeant Rock or Nick Fury. Conte usually does movie inspired versions of history and that's great but there is no movie tie in to this series. My own reading shows that pistols as infantry weapons weren't issued but were personal weapons purchased or given to individuals and companies of men early in the US Civil War. Men posed for photos wearing these pistols but there is some interpretation the these might be photographer's "props" like the Bowie knives seen in Southern soldier photos. The standard view is that infantrymen found these pistols too burdensome to carry and care for and abandoned them. They do get in the way of rifle drill as well....something I learned "playing" Civil War for 20 years. Unless there is a period reference to one sergeant carrying a pistol or picking one up then it's wrong to show an actual person using one in print or 3 dimension. Those colors and staffs are also heavy as I remember as well.

The stuff I do with toy plastics IS fun and is usually labeled or assumed to be fun when folks see my blog. I like to look in on what the metal collectors are doing and I'm assuming that this forum is for comment and question.
 
Well Reb, I wasn't familiar with the incident although I did know of the 5th's near destruction at the battle. It's my history so I thought I'd better look it up as you called me on it. Two modern artists of some renown, Keith Rocco and Don Troiani, have portrayed the incident as a desperate last stand rather than an attack. I have to also go on Brian Pohanka's interpretation in the Troiani book of the period incident as I had known him from reenacting (he was an "officer" in the 5th N.Y. reenactment group) and his reputation as a scholar. The Conte interpretation of the two real men is like Sergeant Rock or Nick Fury. Conte usually does movie inspired versions of history and that's great but there is no movie tie in to this series. My own reading shows that pistols as infantry weapons weren't issued but were personal weapons purchased or given to individuals and companies of men early in the US Civil War. Men posed for photos wearing these pistols but there is some interpretation the these might be photographer's "props" like the Bowie knives seen in Southern soldier photos. The standard view is that infantrymen found these pistols too burdensome to carry and care for and abandoned them. They do get in the way of rifle drill as well....something I learned "playing" Civil War for 20 years. Unless there is a period reference to one sergeant carrying a pistol or picking one up then it's wrong to show an actual person using one in print or 3 dimension. Those colors and staffs are also heavy as I remember as well.

The stuff I do with toy plastics IS fun and is usually labeled or assumed to be fun when folks see my blog. I like to look in on what the metal collectors are doing and I'm assuming that this forum is for comment and question.




Yes it is a perfect vehicle for comments and questions!

I very much appreciate your knowledge of the ACW for if you recall when I wanted to mold a mid-19th century Virginia/Southern mile marker and didn't have a clue what they would look like. I immediately thought of you and PM'd you. Subsequently, you very kindly supplied me with a picture which I copied exactly when I made my Cold Harbor marker and then forwarded it to you for comment before I posted it in my ACW Diaries.

Yet you regularly post comments on here such as you did on this thread for Joe's pictures of his Zouaves. They always read as a thinly disguised tone of denigration that what members are depicting/displaying in their collections and dioramas or recent figures they have bought are completely unauthentic. They may well be but I must admit I struggle to comprehend the inference of your comments or your end goal. Surely it's not to deliberately spoil the utter enjoyment of this hobby for that particular member and his collection...is it? because that's how I read some of them.

But then of course it could just be another example of that old adage that Pedantry runs on the fuel of self applause.
 
The subtexts of my posts must be way deeper than I intended. The figure set is well made and well painted. I just saw it about 2 hours ago at the Hobby Bunker in Malden, Mass. but I forgot to ask the price. I'd like to think that if I was paying X amount of USD for figures representing historical figures, I was getting good quality AND some research beyond the correctness of the uniforms (not bad on these BTW). If any "Joe Reenactor" or history buff with a 10 cent copy of Bruce Catton or Shelby Foote proved that this is a comic book version of history, I'd feel robbed.

The Russian made artillery set I saw earlier was another example of a set obviously well made but not belonging to history as known.

What if Conte added sets to their Rorke's Drift series, based on the film Zulu, of drunk Jack Hawkins or the soldier ripping Ulla Jacobson's dress? Hook as a dirt bag slacker? Fun for recreating the movie but it just didn't happen in 1879 and would be out of place as true representation of the event.
 
Scott you'll note that Sergeant Berrian along with Sergeant Allison where caught on camera after Sgt.Berrian caught the flag in mid air as Color Sergeant Spelman was collapsing with heat stroke and the newspaper photo being taken as both continued with the charge. Like any creative story teller, movie director I've taken the liberty of recreating their actions using Contes very creative figures and who knows that in the heat of battle the bearers had gained the strenght required to carry their flags and that Berrian favored carrying a pistol. Scott the Conte figures speak for themselves and like the story teller and movie director Conte added his special touch in creating them. Thanks Reb an Scott for providing me with the historical knowledge on the 95th. Planning on spending quite a bit of time learning more about the 95th when ever I'm not recreating my history with toy soldiers of the Zulu War. A special thank you Bob for the info you prodived on sergeants Berrian and Allison it sure will make good reading on my Trading Cards when I get to them. Joe

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I have lots of admiration for all of you well read, historical accuracy based collectors. My friend Mike collects the Ken Osen sculpted figures by Britains because he values Ken Osen's attention to historical accuracy. I am absolutely amazed and jealous of Reb's ability to take these valuable little pieces of art and fix inaccuracies and make the figures better than they started, and then tell historically accurate pictorial narratives with them. Richard Conte, believe it or not, is very well read on the historical details of the figures he makes...though he also values the beloved distortions from the great movies.
I just like playing with toy soldiers and directing my own little scenes and sharing them with others who get joy out of the pictures. I'm basically just a larger, slower, creakier, more patient, and technologically savy version of the little kid who played with his Marx playsets in the dirt behind the garage. Now I do with the camera what I did with pure imagination back then.
 
OK, OK, I forgot about "artistic license." I'll be waiting for Conte to add that figure of Ulla Jacobsson to the ZULU collection.

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"It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry. "
— Thomas Paine
 
Another outstanding photo featuring your playtime Joe and thought I'd join in with featuring a few photos of mine which my infamous cartoonist MMIller cartoon for me. I really like the way they turned out and thought i"d share them with you. Wishing you all a Happy 4th of July......The Yank:salute:::salute:::salute:::salute::

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Well done by all. Very realistically posed and artistic at the ame time.
 

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