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Combat said:
There were over 3,000 deaths in the US yesterday. Nearing 300K total deaths. Hopefully the bureaucrats get around to approving the vaccine. Wouldn't want them to rush it.
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Better safe than sorry.
Mark
 
jazzeum said:
The AEs (Adverse Reactions) that took place in the UK are the reason why the FDA is deliberate. At any rate, the FDA committee is meeting right now and hopefully the Pfizer vaccine will be approved today. Since the Moderna vaccine is similar that should be approved soon.

However, there are issues with the AstraZeneca one and don’t look for any quick approval. See

Blunders Eroded US Confidence in Early Front Runner

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/08/business/covid-vaccine-oxford-astrazeneca.html
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If you put a couple of adverse reactions on one end of the scale, and 3K deaths every day on the other while the much of the country is in lockdown, it's time to act. I understand the need to carefully review a new vaccine, but that process should also take into consideration an exigent circumstance. And they were always going to approve it once the data confirmed it was effective and safe. The delay of the past several weeks has changed nothing or made the vaccine any safer. Every vaccine and medicine has some adverse effect on a small number of people. Even if it turned out that this vaccine has a slightly higher adverse reaction, the nature of the pandemic weighs heavily in favor of expeditious approval.
 
Just saw this being reported in The Boston Globe;

"Researchers now believe roughly 330,000 COVID-19 cases across the nation and around the world can be traced back to the two-day Boston conference, according to a new study published Thursday in the journal Science.

In the state of MA alone, 20,000 cases have been traced back to the conference."

A TWO DAY conference....................incredible.
 
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rcw3tvnD0JI

Hi all

This is a very good video and only 11 minutes long. I don't like these new Covid-19 vaccines that are being released by big pharma. I think they are dangerous (based on the evidence and opinions of scientists and doctors worldwide) but it appears there is an Aussie vaccine that is safe and has been tested over a long period of time. How you ask, well they have tested it against previous corona viruses such as SARS 1 which has been around since 2003. SARS 1 has 80% in common with Covid-19, science has verified this. Unfortunately the Australian Govt is ignoring this vaccine and spending billions of taxpayers money on the big pharma vaccines.

Tom
 
Guys, save yourself some time and skip to around 9 minutes into this strange video where he says the Pfizer vaccine contains Heavy metals and Aborted fetal cells. He also says the Pfizer vaccine will make women sterile, and of course it's part of a government plot to kill us all.

And they say you couldn't make this stuff up, but yes they do {eek3}


TomNT said:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rcw3tvnD0JI

Hi all

This is a very good video and only 11 minutes long. I don't like these new Covid-19 vaccines that are being released by big pharma. I think they are dangerous (based on the evidence and opinions of scientists and doctors worldwide) but it appears there is an Aussie vaccine that is safe and has been tested over a long period of time. How you ask, well they have tested it against previous corona viruses such as SARS 1 which has been around since 2003. SARS 1 has 80% in common with Covid-19, science has verified this. Unfortunately the Australian Govt is ignoring this vaccine and spending billions of taxpayers money on the big pharma vaccines.

Tom
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OzD,
I looked at Tom's link because I recognised the guy in the beard. He is Australian ex Special Forces LT COL Ricardo Bossi who seems to have had an impressive military career. More recently he set up a political party called Australia One which was based on Australian Conservatives which folded. He ran in the last election in Eden Monaro and received 0.5% of the vote.

The clip posted by Tom is from a longer interview, yesterday, that goes for 1hr 41mins. The Dr he mentions, Nicolai Petrovsky from Flinders Uni, has been a medical researcher for many years and was funded quite significantly by the US for a number of years in relation to his SARS virus research. When Covid started he reactivated his research but has not received any funding as Aussie Govt went with the Qld Uni research which was cancelled yesterday. Petrovsky actually in the Oz today commenting upon the Qld Uni vaccine issue. Bossi makes the claim that the Pfizer vaccine was "peer reviewed" and received a rating of 3/7 which would not normally be acceptable to Oz Govt for a vaccine. He says the Petrovsky vaccine got a rating of 7/7 but I cant see where he gets those ratings info from.

Further into the long clip he says that the Port Arthur massacre in 1996 was a "false flag" operation designed to help PM Howard take away peoples guns. For those not aware 35 were killed and 23 wounded.

Bossi is a charismatic guy and first time I have watched him online. However fair to say I have issues with some of what he is saying.
 
MilW

That's some interesting military background about the person interviewed, I've never heard of him and doubt he has a future in politics.

Despite the claims in the video, there never was a successful human vaccine against Sars-Cov-1 (Sars Virus). The development progressed as far as tests on some animals such as Ferrets etc. However the results were problematic and as that virus subsequently 'disappeared' most companies and governments decided not to continue further development of a human vaccine.

In hindsight a costly decision considering the number of deaths from Sars-Cov-2 (Covid19). Would we have had an effective vaccine against Covid19 if they continued the experiments etc? That's impossible to say considering funding would have been very limited as evidenced.
 
Some staggering numbers. Five of the top ten deadliest days in US history have now occurred in the first week and a half of December. Surpassing events like the 9/11 attack and Pearl Harbor. Only the battle of Antietam and Galveston Hurricane exceed the daily death tolls from this last week. And no end in sight until the vaccine starts to make a difference. The bureaucrats spent an entire day yesterday pontificating before approving the Pfizer vaccine. Something they knew would happen all along and for weeks. Thereby sentencing another 3k people to death each day with the delay so that they could have their moment on TV.
 
Warrior said:
I took another quiz today; there are actually about 3.3 million residents in MA; I sit at number 3,000,089 in line......................oh goodie...........................
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This is your reward George for taking such good care of yourself!


Joe
 
joesgis said:
This is your reward George for taking such good care of yourself!


Joe
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The truth is I'm getting the vaccine for myself but more importantly, for my Mom, who I see a couple of days a week and who is 88 and my girlfriend, who has asthma.

It's called doing for the greater good.
 
The head of the FDA has been told to submit his resignation if they do not approve the vaccine today. Finally! Weeks too late to save the thousands that have died while they delayed but hopefully it saves some lives going forward.
 
OzDigger said:
Guys, save yourself some time and skip to around 9 minutes into this strange video where he says the Pfizer vaccine contains Heavy metals and Aborted fetal cells. He also says the Pfizer vaccine will make women sterile, and of course it's part of a government plot to kill us all.

And they say you couldn't make this stuff up, but yes they do {eek3}
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Oz, for your information manufacturers have previously used heavy metals as a preservative and have definitely used aborted fetal tissue, along with monkey organs and a raft of other unmentionable's to create vaccines. Also have previously included the HGC hormone which causes woman to abort. Hence all the warnings in the fine print regarding pregnant woman and vulnerable persons such as young children.

As to what's in the Pfizer vaccine or any of the other Covid concoctions I simply don't know at this stage.

Like I keep saying to folks, you don't have to believe me do you own research. Its all there if you know where to look.

A good place to start is the instruction and ingredient list included with the vaccine box. That's if you can get hold of one?

The facts sheet the doctors and nurses often hand out is usually the manufacturers propaganda sheet.

If it was me I'd want to know exactly what they were sticking in me before lining up and getting this jab.

My message is simply about being cautious and being fully informed of the risks involved.
 
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Dk

People tend to believe something that supports their own beliefs which can make them easy targets for others with a hidden agenda as evidenced in the recent video.

Personally I will rely on science based evidence rather than the ramblings of some disaffected member of society.

Here's some information regarding the ingredients in vaccines. Of course some will say this is just more propaganda as the site is pro vaccination. That's the way some people think, and we can't help that.

https://vaccinateyourfamily.org/questions-about-vaccines/vaccine-ingredients/



Desertkiwi said:
Oz, for your information manufacturers have previously used heavy metals as a preservative and have definitely used aborted fetal tissue, along with monkey organs and a raft of other unmentionable's to create vaccines. Also have previously included the HGC hormone which causes woman to abort. Hence all the warnings in the fine print regarding pregnant woman and vulnerable persons such as young children.

As to what's in the Pfizer vaccine or any of the other Covid concoctions I simply don't know at this stage.

Like I keep saying to folks, you don't have to believe me do you own research. Its all there if you know where to look.

A good place to start is the instruction and ingredient list included with the vaccine box. That's if you can get hold of one?

The facts sheet the doctors and nurses often hand out is usually the manufacturers propaganda sheet.

If it was me I'd want to know exactly what they were sticking in me before lining up and getting this jab.

My message is simply about being cautious and being fully informed of the risks involved.
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OzDigger said:
Guys, save yourself some time and skip to around 9 minutes into this strange video where he says the Pfizer vaccine contains Heavy metals and Aborted fetal cells. He also says the Pfizer vaccine will make women sterile, and of course it's part of a government plot to kill us all.

And they say you couldn't make this stuff up, but yes they do {eek3}
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Wow, what a captivating fella..................one thing though; I have a hard time believing anything a guy says who dyes the hair on his dome but not his facial hair.......................just sayin.................
 
warrior said:
wow, what a captivating fella..................one thing though; i have a hard time believing anything a guy says who dyes the hair on his dome but not his facial hair.......................just sayin.................
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lmao!
 
OzDigger said:
Dk

People tend to believe something that supports their own beliefs which can make them easy targets for others with a hidden agenda as evidenced in the recent video.

Personally I will rely on science based evidence rather than the ramblings of some disaffected member of society.

Here's some information regarding the ingredients in vaccines. Of course some will say this is just more propaganda as the site is pro vaccination. That's the way some people think, and we can't help that.

https://vaccinateyourfamily.org/questions-about-vaccines/vaccine-ingredients/
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I'm certainly not fitting things to conform to my own beliefs nor am I supporting the commentator in Tom's posted clip. I'm merely stating facts as I now them based upon years of my own research from a variety of reliable sources.

None of this is about being either pro or anti vaccinations, its about being fully informed and having an understanding of the risks involved and that includes what vaccines are made from both past and present.

Interesting that a number of very experienced medical professionals have also openly expressed concern about the Covid vaccine's, but you never see those comments being posted in the media.
 
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Desertkiwi said:
I'm certainly not fitting things to conform to my own beliefs nor am I supporting the commentator in Tom's posted clip. I'm merely stating facts as I now them based upon years of my own research from a variety of reliable sources.

None of this is about being either pro or anti vaccinations, its about being fully informed and having an understanding of the risks involved and that includes what vaccines are made from both past and present.

Interesting that a number of very experienced medical professionals have also openly expressed concern about the Covid vaccine's, but you never see those comments being posted in the media.
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Todd you said above that none of this is about being either pro or anti vaccination.

However when you state that heavy metals, fetal tissue and other unmentionables are in vaccines and nurses and doctors are distributing drug company propaganda it suggests to me that you actually are anti vaccination.

I understand that individuals will have different opinions about vaccinations based on personal experiences, religious beliefs or whatever.

What I fail to understand is why some forum members continue to discourage others to be vaccinated despite the millions of lives vaccinations have saved, and that vaccinations are clearly for the greater good.
 
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