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Terp152 said:
My oldest son, a platoon Sgt in the 101st, and his unit deployed to Camp Atterbury, IN for an exercise. He and 14 other soldiers in his troop came down with the COVID virus. Told me he was very sick for two days and then fully recovered. He has to isolate for 14 days.

I'm surprised the military is not vaccinating the troops. They give shots for everything else, we even had to take anti-Anthrax pills when the possibility of contamination (WWIII with the Soviets) was remote.

My wife is getting her second dose today. Chris
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Glad your son is ok............I just took it as a given that the military would all be vaccinated, I guess I was wrong.
 
Terp152 said:
My oldest son, a platoon Sgt in the 101st, and his unit deployed to Camp Atterbury, IN for an exercise. He and 14 other soldiers in his troop came down with the COVID virus. Told me he was very sick for two days and then fully recovered. He has to isolate for 14 days.

I'm surprised the military is not vaccinating the troops. They give shots for everything else, we even had to take anti-Anthrax pills when the possibility of contamination (WWIII with the Soviets) was remote.

My wife is getting her second dose today. Chris
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Chris:

All the best to your son and your family.

I’ve said it from the start, you can agree/disagree and debate/argue all the merits and science of this pandemic but when it effects someone you know (even those you only know via the internet) it truly puts everything in perspective.

-Jason
 
Panzer ace said:
Chris:

All the best to your son and your family.

I’ve said it from the start, you can agree/disagree and debate/argue all the merits and science of this pandemic but when it effects someone you know (even those you only know via the internet) it truly puts everything in perspective.

-Jason
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Thank you Jason, much appreciated. Chris
 
The continued analysis of the numbers by the media is a riddle wrapped in an enigma.

Texas and California COVID numbers are way down, from hospitalizations to deaths.

Yet the headlines related to California applaud the news while those in Texas continue to try to find a negative reason for the results?
 
Terp152 said:
My oldest son, a platoon Sgt in the 101st, and his unit deployed to Camp Atterbury, IN for an exercise. He and 14 other soldiers in his troop came down with the COVID virus. Told me he was very sick for two days and then fully recovered. He has to isolate for 14 days.

I'm surprised the military is not vaccinating the troops. They give shots for everything else, we even had to take anti-Anthrax pills when the possibility of contamination (WWIII with the Soviets) was remote.

My wife is getting her second dose today. Chris
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Just saw this post, Chris. Sorry your son got the virus but very happy he recovered from it. One would think that the military would have priority for vaccines for so many reasons. Hope your son and his fellow soldiers will get shots and not have to worry in the future. -- Al
 
Panzer ace said:
The continued analysis of the numbers by the media is a riddle wrapped in an enigma.

Texas and California COVID numbers are way down, from hospitalizations to deaths.

Yet the headlines related to California applaud the news while those in Texas continue to try to find a negative reason for the results?
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Yup, my posts regarding the press have been pretty consistent throughout this entire thread. Look at most negatives and they have a big hand in them. They somehow have one job - report the facts, yet they collectively believe their job is to guide policy, form public opinion and control the message. What is this Communist Russia from the 1950s??

TD
 
lancer said:
Just saw this post, Chris. Sorry your son got the virus but very happy he recovered from it. One would think that the military would have priority for vaccines for so many reasons. Hope your son and his fellow soldiers will get shots and not have to worry in the future. -- Al
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Thanks Al.
Read a couple of articles this morning. There were 1.8M doses administered to DOD personnel. So the vaccinations are happening. But my son's unit has not vaccinated and that delay of a combat unit is troubling. Perhaps DOD has a priority list and infantry is further down. What's surprising is the military is using same stds as civilian population. Soldiers have the option to not get the vaccine. That's strange as we saw how one acft carrier had been decimated by the virus last yr. Chris
 
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Panzer ace said:
The continued analysis of the numbers by the media is a riddle wrapped in an enigma.

Texas and California COVID numbers are way down, from hospitalizations to deaths.

Yet the headlines related to California applaud the news while those in Texas continue to try to find a negative reason for the results?
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All the more perplexing in that you might expect the numbers in Texas to be increasing due to the situation along the border which is out of control. But they don't care about that anymore. The media is narrative driven. They create a narrative and then selectively publicize those facts that advance their desired narrative and ignore those facts that they don't like.
 
the price of gas in the Houston/Galveston are has risen almost 50 cents per gallon in just a few weeks...
now making the short drive from the Houston area to Galveston's beaches a very affordable day trip for a visiting family...
the Island was completely over run this weekend with tourist...traffic congestion was incredible...similar to a 4th of July summer weekend...
and it's not even summertime yet...
I met a friend for dinner at a Seawall location and regretted making the commitment as soon as I left my driveway...
there was a custom truck rally and an Iron Man Competition this weekend...every hotel was at capacity...
it took me 20 minutes to drive 3 miles to the restaurant...
we ate at Kritikos Grill on the Seawall...and they required masks...but nobody outside was wearing a mask...
the local news says the new variant of Covid is hitting Houston hard...
especially the younger age group...
the tourist...the visitors...they are not taking this seriously...
 
Interesting with all the discussion about election reform in the age of COVID that my daughter just turned 18 and wanted to register to vote this week. Should be simple now right with technology and reforms? Supposedly it can be done online. So with some difficulty we find the website, try to register and, of course, it doesn't work but without any explanation provided. Next look up the county office. It is in some backwater. Go to the office. On the front door is a sign that says if you are there to register to vote you need an appointment due to COVID restrictions. This information is not on the website. I'm standing there getting ready to blow my stack when someone pushes the door open and tells us to come in. There is not a single other person there. No explanation for the bizarre sign or why the website doesn't work etc. My daughter soldiers on and registers on some long government form like something out of the 1970s (and you have to show ID to register). Now in certain quarters this might be deemed "voter suppression" but comes off to me more as "bureaucratic incompetence." I do wonder what the folks who work there do all day long since no one comes in and the few that try are discouraged. I kept expecting to see Agent Kimball from Green Acres behind the desk.
 
Reading today that the number of new cases worldwide was at its highest point since the pandemic began. Over 5 million new cases this week. That's incredible. It is just starting to feel like things are getting back to normal and you read something like that. Places like India are really suffering.
 
The US is giving 4M doses of AstraZeneca vaccine to Canada and Mexico. I hadn't realized everyone in the US had already been vaccinated. :rolleyes2: FDA has not yet approved AstraZeneca for use. Glad to see they're up to their usual standard of performance. Chris
 
Terp152 said:
The US is giving 4M doses of AstraZeneca vaccine to Canada and Mexico. I hadn't realized everyone in the US had already been vaccinated. :rolleyes2: FDA has not yet approved AstraZeneca for use. Glad to see they're up to their usual standard of performance. Chris
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There is a lot of supply out there or will be shortly. Moreover, as you observed these have not been approved in the US and so have no effect on US demand. Although not approved in the US yet this formulation has been approved in other countries so where’s the harm in giving out these doses. I’m sure Health Canada and the equivalent regulatory authority in Mexico wouldn’t distribute these vaccines to its citizens unless it was safe and effective.

In addition, we need to be helping out the rest of the world with vaccines because if these countries aren’t vaccinated, the disease and its variants will just find its way here.
 
jazzeum said:
There is a lot of supply out there or will be shortly. Moreover, as you observed these have not been approved in the US and so have no effect on US demand. Although not approved in the US yet this formulation has been approved in other countries so where’s the harm in giving out these doses. I’m sure Health Canada and the equivalent regulatory authority in Mexico wouldn’t distribute these vaccines to its citizens unless it was safe and effective.

In addition, we need to be helping out the rest of the world with vaccines because if these countries aren’t vaccinated, the disease and its variants will just find its way here.
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Brad, I have no problem with helping out the world as you propose, provided US citizens have been vaccinated which they have not. Less than half of the US pop has been vaccinated. The FDA has continually been problematic when dealing with the vaccines. Chris
 
We appear to be entering the phase where the problem is not supply but demand. Most people in PA who want the vaccine can now get it with a modest effort. This is where the legal and policy fights start to flare around placing restrictions on those that refuse to take the vaccine (e.g. schools, work, airlines).
 
As Combat notes it’s now becoming a demand, not supply problem. I was in the pharma business for 37 years and think the FDA does an excellent job and has done so during the Pandemic.
 
If supply is meeting demand why was the Michigan Gov's request for add'l dosage to counter the spike in COVID cases denied? The Administration said they would not take away from quotas designated for other states?
 
jazzeum said:
As Combat notes it’s now becoming a demand, not supply problem. I was in the pharma business for 37 years and think the FDA does an excellent job and has done so during the Pandemic.
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Don't worry, the black market is now loaded with fake COVID vaccination cards, so no problem getting a card showing they have been vaccinated for those who refuse to get the actual vaccine.
 
jazzeum said:
As Combat notes it’s now becoming a demand, not supply problem. I was in the pharma business for 37 years and think the FDA does an excellent job and has done so during the Pandemic.
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Brad, the FDA has delayed or blocked patients from accessing at-home pregnancy tests, at-home HIV tests, at-home genetic-screening tests, and most recently, at-home COVID tests. The FDA still requires a prescription for hormonal contraceptives, despite appeals from the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology and the American Academy of Family Practice to allow American women to join women in 102 other countries who get birth-control pills over the counter. I could go on but the administrators are probably getting nervous at this point. Chris
 
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