N.F.L. 21-22 Season (2 Viewers)

[Combat]

They gave him a second chance before the draft; he had no mini camp, camp or preseason games last year, he contracted COVID too, he was a good soldier and did the best he could.

Outside of the second half vs the Seahawks, he sucked last year, got yanked in three games as a matter of fact.

Then Mac Jones landed in their lap on draft day, the perfect QB for the "Brady system" they have run here for 20+ years.

The kid has looked good all camp long, has outplayed Newton, his stats are the best among the rookie class he was drafted in; meaningless to some extent, but still.

They were going nowhere with Cam as their QB, it's time to turn the page and see what the kid can do.

Sunday night, Cam had Bourne wide open down the sideline, but he never looked off/checked down from his first look, he forced the ball to Myers in double coverage..........INT vs a walk in TD.

That was the Cam Newton experience in a nutshell.

I've seen this one play out many times. Lots of hype for a first round QB. A lot of pressure to give him the starting job. He is rushed into the starting role and gets beaten up. Loses confidence. The fans turn on him. He gets traded and ends up working at Taco Bell. Cam was obviously not the solution. But maybe he starts a few games and they ease the rookie into the role. If he survives five games without a major injury, he will be lucky.

 

[Warrior]

I've seen this one play out many times. Lots of hype for a first round QB. A lot of pressure to give him the starting job. He is rushed into the starting role and gets beaten up. Loses confidence. The fans turn on him. He gets traded and ends up working at Taco Bell. Cam was obviously not the solution. But maybe he starts a few games and they ease the rookie into the role. If he survives five games without a major injury, he will be lucky.

Except there was no "hype" for Mac Jones; he was regarded as the worst QB of the group, drafted last as a matter of fact, the pundits were ****ting on Belichick for drafting him "slow white guy, doughboy body, a product of the system in Alabama, Belichick panicked after Brady won a SB his first year removed from New England".............................the reporters around here were not pumping his tires during camp.

He reminds me of the last QB drafted in his class; Dan Marino.

Or the other goofy looking white guy who was drafted last in his class, in the 6th round as a matter of fact, Tom Brady.

Not saying he's going to be a Marino or a Brady, but he's not going to be asked to do a lot of things he's not able to, they will run the ball a lot and feature a two tight end set.

I'm much more optimistic with him running the show than I would have been with a washed up Cam Newton.

We'll see what shakes out.

 

[Combat]

Except there was no "hype" for Mac Jones; he was regarded as the worst QB of the group, drafted last as a matter of fact, the pundits were ****ting on Belichick for drafting him "slow white guy, doughboy body, a product of the system in Alabama, Belichick panicked after Brady won a SB his first year removed from New England".............................the reporters around here were not pumping his tires during camp.

He reminds me of the last QB drafted in his class; Dan Marino.

Or the other goofy looking white guy who was drafted last in his class, in the 6th round as a matter of fact, Tom Brady.

Not saying he's going to be a Marino or a Brady, but he's not going to be asked to do a lot of things he's not able to, they will run the ball a lot and feature a two tight end set.

I'm much more optimistic with him running the show than I would have been with a washed up Cam Newton.

We'll see what shakes out.

I think there is a lot of hype for any rookie QB that is put into a starting role. Particularly when replacing Brady. Even Mayfield in Cleveland had a ton of pressure for a team that hasn't won in decades. It's a tough spot to put any rookie. Bill is in "win now" mode. He is rolling the bones. Doesn't plan to be around in five or ten years. It's impossible to say how a QB will pan out but the worst thing that can be done is to rush them into the lineup.

 

[Warrior]

I think there is a lot of hype for any rookie QB that is put into a starting role. Particularly when replacing Brady. Even Mayfield in Cleveland had a ton of pressure for a team that hasn't won in decades. It's a tough spot to put any rookie. Bill is in "win now" mode. He is rolling the bones. Doesn't plan to be around in five or ten years. It's impossible to say how a QB will pan out but the worst thing that can be done is to rush them into the lineup.

The bottom line is Newton was a bad fit for this offense, they don't run the RPO, mobility in a QB is not important; being able to check down and read coverage and move the chains is.

They are going to run a lot, feature a jumbo package with two tight ends, move the chains and control the clock, their defense will be key too, they are not going for home run throws and extend the field, not their game.

Jones is the future, if not this year, then next year, just a question of time.

They weren't going anywhere this year with Newton as the QB.

We'll see what happens.

 

[Panzer ace]

I really do not understand the Cam Newton debate.

The team that drafted and developed him released him and the Patriots picked him up in the hopes that he would be a stop gap.

He did that while not handcuffing the franchise with a huge cap hit.

 

[Warrior]

I really do not understand the Cam Newton debate.

The team that drafted and developed him released him and the Patriots picked him up in the hopes that he would be a stop gap.

He did that while not handcuffing the franchise with a huge cap hit.

Saw this today;

"The Cam Newton error is over in New England, the QB of the future is ready to go"

I can't even imagine how hyped the New England/Tompa Bay game will be.

Insufferable is more like it.

 

[Panzer ace]

Saw this today;

"The Cam Newton error is over in New England, the QB of the future is ready to go"

I can't even imagine how hyped the New England/Tompa Bay game will be.

Insufferable is more like it.

I was a kid when Montana left for KC.

When he played against the Niners a year later all I could think was, he plays for KC now, why can’t everyone move on?

 

[Combat]

It's early to make predictions but I really like that the Rams finally jettisoned gutless Goff and replaced him with a gamer. Stafford has seemingly everything that Goff lacked. Toughness and heart. And now he has a lot of great offensive tools and a top notch defense. If the Rams can generate any running game, they are going to be good this year. The defense is solid. Good skill players. Top notch QB. They are in the same win now mode as the Dodgers and Lakers.

 

[mikemiller1955]

never to early for a prediction...
just ask Nostradamus...

I predict the Cowboys will take an enormous beat down tonight...

opening the season at the SB champion TB Bucs...
with all their last year starters on the roster...

Zack Martin...6 time all Pro offensive guard...considered one of the best run and pass blockers in the NFL...
is out with Covid for this game...
which severely effects the running game and Dak's protection...
gonna be ugly...but I will watch it all...

 

[mikemiller1955]

the kicker for Dallas sucks...
he's killing me...
missed field goal from the 32...
missed extra point...
should be 17-14...
but it's 13-14...
Dallas is not good enough to make these miscues...

 

[mikemiller1955]

dang...
I had this game marked a loser on my calendar...
but that completion that put them TB in field goal range to win the game was kind of funky...
I think the receiver really pushed off and it should have been offensive pass interference...
but that's football...
the missed field goal and extra point came back to haunt them...

I thought those plays could be challenged and were reviewable...

none the less...the Cowboys looked good and I'm hopeful this season...

 

[jazzeum]

That was simply a horrible non call on offensive pass interference. Probably cost Dallas the game.

 

[Combat]

Of all the amazing things about Brady, who is not only the greatest QB of all time but well beyond that now, it is that the guy never gets injured. Half the rookie QBs that come into the league and get any meaningful playing time are hurt by the time they play a few games. Many are injured so badly they are never the same and out of the league in short order. But Brady is indestructible. All the more amazing since he is older and not mobile.

 

[mikemiller1955]

they barely touched Brady last night...
no sacks...
he's not really mobile...
but he's crafty, smart and very accurate...
Gronk was a brute himself...
could be a repeat in the SB...

"yeah they come to snuff the rooster...
but he ain't gonna die..."

 

[Warrior]

they barely touched Brady last night...
no sacks...
he's not really mobile...
but he's crafty, smart and very accurate...
Gronk was a brute himself...
could be a repeat in the SB...

"yeah they come to snuff the rooster...
but he ain't gonna die..."

Yeah, he's just wonderful, been hearing it all morning on Boston sports talk radio, man do they love to beat a dead horse.

And SO glad to see Gronk is alive and well; based on his teary eyed retirement press conference "I have to retire, I don't want to end up in a wheelchair"..................gee, one year off and he's reborn in Tampa now, looking like his old self.

What a bullshit artist; if he did not want to play for Belichick anymore, I'd admire and respect him for having the balls to say so...........he dicked the team around in free agency and did not announce his retirement until free agency was over, thus screwing the Patriots out of signing a decent replacement for him, so I have less than zero use for him.

Same with Brady; he did not want to be here anymore, said he wanted a Drew Brees 2/50 fully guaranteed contract, to sign him to that, they would have had to gut the team, so he walked, went to Tampa, talked a bunch of star players into joining him, took a pay cut in 2021 and restructured his contract to give Tampa flexibility to keep the band together, extended his two year deal and now wants to play until he's 45 or older.

Again; I have less than zero use for him too.

He's not my QB, Gronkowski is not my tight end, why fans around here fawn all over those two is beyond my comprehension, I root for the laundry/the name on the front, not the name on the back, players come and go.

A friend of mine and his wife, lifelong Patriots fans, are now Tampa fans, the two morons went out and bought Brady jerseys, they plan on coming to our weekly get togethers in Brady jerseys..........................wonderful, can't wait.

 

[Panzer ace]

I love the over analysis by ESPN and the NFL Network.

According to some of their pundits Tampa Bay is going undefeated and Dallas is going to miss the playoffs.

Both predictions are probably wrong but the Dallas one is clearly wrong.

The Cowboys do not play another 2020 playoff team until week 11.

 

[lancer]

Watching Redskins v Chargers and my first observation is that many players on both teams are wearing yellow gloves which are the same color as penalty flags. I'm seeing penalty flags flying by the dozen. Make it stop! New rule, gloves must be black or white... -- Al

 

[tdubel]

On a brighter note after yesterday college fb debacle, go Steelers, nice 2nd half and win over the Bill's!
Tom

 

[mikemiller1955]

On a brighter note after yesterday college fb debacle, go Steelers, nice 2nd half and win over the Bill's!
Tom

Tom...
good win...
I watched that game...
slow start...
but Tomlin really woke them up in the 2nd half...
Watts is a beast...he deserves his new contract...

 

[sammy719]

Wow....Maybe Rodgers should have left Green Bay what a *** whippn by the Saints!!!!!....awesome game with KC & Cleveland....thinking the AFC North will be a dog fight with all 4 teams.