NCAA Football - 2018 (2 Viewers)

[Warrior]

I feel like Ohio State is going to sneak in and I am sorry, that is undeserving if Oklahoma wins. Ohio State got blown out by Purdue and by all rights should have lost to the hapless Maryland Terps. It is a crock.

That said, it won't matter if Bama plays their game, they are truly the best team this year thus far.

As far as Notre Dame, I am not a Brian Kelly fan and really don't have much respect for him. I think he is a stain on the history of Notre Dame. As much as I root against the Irish, I respect them, but that guy quite frankly comes across as first class *******. The way I have seen him act on the sideline, in interviews is not in the rich tradition of Notre Dame. Love them or hate them, they are a big part of the history of college football. I really don't understand why they are not part of the Big 10, they truly belong in that conference. Of course I know why and that is because they have their own tv deal and they have crafted a favorable schedule against "names" that are no longer powerhouses they used to be. I don't know if I would call their schedule tomato cans, but it is no where near as competitive as the SEC or a full Big 10 schedule.


On another note, when the hell is the Big Ten going to realign their own divisions? Good lord, you have Ohio St, Michigan, Penn St and Michigan St all in the same division????


Anyhow, I put my vote on ALA...BAMA. Can't you just hear the chant...……...ALA.....BAMA.

TD

A lot of truth here, solid points all around.

tOSU is going to sneak in, it's a crock, but this is what happens when you rely on polls/voters vs a true playoff system.

The way it should work is there should be 8 power conferences of 10 teams each, whoever wins the conference strait up gets into the playoffs, 8 teams, plain and simple.

None of this conference championship game bs either; Notre Dame doesn't have to worry about getting knocked off in their conference playoff game.


And call me a get off my lawn type, but I miss the days when USC, Nebraska, Texas, Florida and FSU were all powerhouses.

 

[Sahara]

As far as Notre Dame, I am not a Brian Kelly fan and really don't have much respect for him. I think he is a stain on the history of Notre Dame. As much as I root against the Irish, I respect them, but that guy quite frankly comes across as first class *******. The way I have seen him act on the sideline, in interviews is not in the rich tradition of Notre Dame. Love them or hate them, they are a big part of the history of college football. I really don't understand why they are not part of the Big 10, they truly belong in that conference. Of course I know why and that is because they have their own tv deal and they have crafted a favorable schedule against "names" that are no longer powerhouses they used to be. I don't know if I would call their schedule tomato cans, but it is no where near as competitive as the SEC or a full Big 10 schedule.

TD

As far as strength of schedule goes only 2 Big Ten teams had a tougher slate then ND and only 3 SEC teams had a tougher schedule. I agree the SEC schedule can be brutal but like any conference such as the Big Ten there will always be underwhelming schools that dont have good football teams.

Addressing the playoffs ND would get rolled by the Tide but who wouldn't? Not so sure Clemson would steam roll ND. They had a tough go with Syracuse and ND dismantled them.

I am a bit surprised Brian Kelly has maintained his job this long. Obviously after this years run he will hold onto it a bit longer. In the eyes of Holtz, Leahy, Parseghian and Rockne Brian Kelly is a bum. But as long as he keeps winning I'll stick with him over a Charlie Weiss or a Tyrone William's anyday.

 

[Panzer ace]

If Oklahoma and Ohio State win Oklahoma should get in because:

In their respective championship games Ohio State is playing Northwestern who is ranked 21st, Oklahoma is playing Texas who is ranked 14th, thus Oklahoma beat a higher ranked team;

Ohio State's lone loss is to an unranked Purdue team, Oklahoma's lone loss is to Texas who is ranked 14th;

You can't have system where you manipulate the rankings as you see fit, either they matter or they don't.

 

[lancer]

If Oklahoma and Ohio State win Oklahoma should get in because:

In their respective championship games Ohio State is playing Northwestern who is ranked 21st, Oklahoma is playing Texas who is ranked 14th, thus Oklahoma beat a higher ranked team;

Ohio State's lone loss is to an unranked Purdue team, Oklahoma's lone loss is to Texas who is ranked 14th;

You can't have system where you manipulate the rankings as you see fit, either they matter or they don't.

Thing is Oklahoma is an enigma. They have the best offense and they have the worst defense. OKU's margin of victory is the lowest of the Top 6 teams because of that. It's going to be interesting. -- Al

 

[Panzer ace]

Thing is Oklahoma is an enigma. They have the best offense and they have the worst defense. OKU's margin of victory is the lowest of the Top 6 teams because of that. It's going to be interesting. -- Al

Al:

I get that line of thinking, statistically Oklahoma's defense is pretty bad. However they still win and in my book that is what matters the most.

I am not an Oklahoma fan, but fair is fair.

-Jason

 

[Combat]

If Georgia pulls off a miracle and beats Bama, then I think the top four stay unchanged with just the rankings shifting: Clemson, ND, Georgia and Bama. I can't see Bama falling out of the playoff unless they get beat by 60 points. If Bama wins, and Oklahoma and Ohio St. win, it gets interesting. Oklahoma has one of the worst defenses that I have ever seen. A miracle they haven't lost more games. Ohio St has been in a funk but managed to lose only one game and that beatdown of Michigan was impressive to end the season. Interested to see if they have post-Michigan hangover and let NW make a game of it.

 

[lancer]

Al:

I get that line of thinking, statistically Oklahoma's defense is pretty bad. However they still win and in my book that is what matters the most.

I am not an Oklahoma fan, but fair is fair.

-Jason

Jason, I get that. It's just that OKU's defense is not just bad, it's horrendously bad. If OKU had a good offense instead of a brilliant offense and averaged 30 points instead of 50, they would be a .500 team. They give up like 33 points a game. Just horrid. -- Al

 

[Panzer ace]

Jason, I get that. It's just that OKU's defense is not just bad, it's horrendously bad. If OKU had a good offense instead of a brilliant offense and averaged 30 points instead of 50, they would be a .500 team. They give up like 33 points a game. Just horrid. -- Al

I was watching the SEC network and one analyst mentioned something interesting in regards to a defensive bias. He said that if a team had a horrible offense but a great defense no one would hold that against them. If that same team was winning games 7-3 etc. with the 100th ranked offense no one would say a word but somehow if you have the opposite your rank is open to debate.

 

[lancer]

I was watching the SEC network and one analyst mentioned something interesting in regards to a defensive bias. He said that if a team had a horrible offense but a great defense no one would hold that against them. If that same team was winning games 7-3 etc. with the 100th ranked offense no one would say a word but somehow if you have the opposite your rank is open to debate.

Never really thought of that before but it sounds true. Either one, a great defense or a great offense, wins games. If you have both, you're Alabama. I would love to see Georgia give them a real contest. -- Al

 

[Terp152]

I was watching the SEC network and one analyst mentioned something interesting in regards to a defensive bias. He said that if a team had a horrible offense but a great defense no one would hold that against them. If that same team was winning games 7-3 etc. with the 100th ranked offense no one would say a word but somehow if you have the opposite your rank is open to debate.

Sounds like U of kentucky, offense was ranked 106th late in season while Defense was top 5. Team wound up 9-3 and most fans happy with best season since 1977. Chris

 

[Rutledge]

Never really thought of that before but it sounds true. Either one, a great defense or a great offense, wins games. If you have both, you're Alabama. I would love to see Georgia give them a real contest. -- Al

My feeling is Georgia will give them a game. They had Bama whooped last year until Saban made the shocking QB change at the half. This year the Dawgs will be prepared for that same QB, in advance. Is he so good he’s literally unbeatable? Well, I doubt that. Personnel wise I’m thinking Ga matches up bodies and speed pretty closely. Coaching wise, Smart worked under Saban, and so knows him well, much like Dabo at Clemson.

Bama has won 13 straight games. They are human, and will not win every single game they play, forever.

 

[bradleyl30]

My feeling is Georgia will give them a game. They had Bama whooped last year until Saban made the shocking QB change at the half. This year the Dawgs will be prepared for that same QB, in advance. Is he so good he’s literally unbeatable? Well, I doubt that. Personnel wise I’m thinking Ga matches up bodies and speed pretty closely. Coaching wise, Smart worked under Saban, and so knows him well, much like Dabo at Clemson.

Bama has won 13 straight games. They are human, and will not win every single game they play, forever.

This Bama fan is nervous. I think it will be a great game.

 

[lancer]

This Bama fan is nervous. I think it will be a great game.

I'm sure it will be a great game. I have to mount my annual suicide watch on my brother, who is the prototypical die-hard Bama fan (and alumni). You would think age might begin to mellow him, but when things go wrong for Bama in any given contest, people sitting with him still get up and vacate the vicinity. His reactions are not for children and the feint of heart... :rolleyes2: -- Al

 

[Combat]

Time for the picks.

Washington 32 Utah 27 - rough year for the PAC. No great teams and they were beatdown in most out of conference games against decent teams. Should be a good game though.

Oklahoma 51 Texas 48 - I can't see Oklahoma losing twice to the Horns. But with their lousy defense it could be a close game.

Ohio St. 31 NW 24 - trap game with post UM hangover. When a team plays a perfect game, there is usually a letdown the next weekend.

Alabama 40 Georgia 27 - competitive but the Tide has too much talent.

 

[Warrior]

Tomorrow is going to be a fun day, just a day to veg on the couch and take all of this in, OU/Texas at noon, Bama/Georgia at 4:00, tOSU/Northwestern, Clemson/Pitt at 8:00pm.

I hope when the dust settles it will be Bama/Clemson/ND/OU, but I have a feeling it will be Bama/Clemson/ND/tOSU as Texas will find a way to screw this up for me.

If Georgia wins, it will be Clemson/ND/Georgia/Bama.

We'll see how things go.

 

[Panzer ace]

While I doubt Northwestern will come close to beating Ohio State I do have a ton of respect for a college football team that plays in its conference championship while being ranked No. 10 in academics nationally.

 

[lancer]

Finally, a game where defense ruled. Washington slaughters Utah 10-3. It sure wasn't OSU v Mich.{eek3} -- Al

 

[Panzer ace]

Finally, a game where defense ruled. Washington slaughters Utah 10-3. It sure wasn't OSU v Mich.{eek3} -- Al

and the only touchdown was scored by Washington's defense!

 

[lancer]

What the heck was Georgia thinking? Tie game, ball at midfield, a little over 2 minutes to play, and they fake a punt? They gave the ball to Bama at midfield. What a major brain malfunction. Bama now has the lead for the first time with 1:04 to go. Boy, did Georgia ever throw this game away. Too bad because they completely outplayed Bama for 58 minutes of this game. Wow. -- Al

 

[Combat]

What the heck was Georgia thinking? Tie game, ball at midfield, a little over 2 minutes to play, and they fake a punt? They gave the ball to Bama at midfield. What a major brain malfunction. Bama now has the lead for the first time with 1:04 to go. Boy, did Georgia ever throw this game away. Too bad because they completely outplayed Bama for 58 minutes of this game. Wow. -- Al

A big risk. If it had worked and Georgia won the game, he would be a genius. Georgia brought its A game today and it still was not enough. It's nice to have a backup QB with 26 wins. I was impressed by UCF coming from behind. Those guys have the longest winning streak in college football. They won't get in the playoff but did everything they could. Looks like Oklahoma is in good shape.