Nfl season 2017-2018 (2 Viewers)

So, I am really enjoying Tony Romo as an announcer. His enthusiasm and knowledge of the game and players kept me from fast forwarding through so much of the Dallas v KC game.
 
mestell said:
Last night's game was more than ugly . . . . I had a feeling this was going to happen when Rodgers broke his collar bone . . . . The Packers have no pass rush, no secondary, and no offense anymore . . . . very sad . . .
:smile2: Mike
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Don't worry Mike, it 2 weeks when the Ravens come for a visit all will be well in G.B. you'll think it's the reincarnation of Lombardi's Packers.
 
I too enjoy when Romo calls the games.... much more than when he threw in them 😀
 
mikemiller1955 said:
I know one or two guys that post on here are pretty vocal about ousting Gooddell...

you might enjoy this article...

from ESPN...

Jerry Jones threatens to sue NFL if Roger Goodell's contract extension is approved

http://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/...allas-cowboys-threatens-sue-nfl-roger-goodell
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I'm confused by this; when Jones was asked about the job Goodell was doing specifically referencing how he handled the Brady suspension/Patriots paying a million dollar fine and losing their first round draft pick, he said "I think the commissioner is doing a fine job, myself and the other owners fully support his decisions regarding this situation"...............but now he wants to go Al Davis on the league?

OH RIGHT; now it's one of his'n being suspended as opposed to one of your'n.....................what a hypocrite.

He really needs a toupee with some brains in it.
 
Warrior said:
I'm confused by this; when Jones was asked about the job Goodell was doing specifically referencing how he handled the Brady suspension/Patriots paying a million dollar fine and losing their first round draft pick, he said "I think the commissioner is doing a fine job, myself and the other owners fully support his decisions regarding this situation"...............but now he wants to go Al Davis on the league?

OH RIGHT; now it's one of his'n being suspended as opposed to one of your'n.....................what a hypocrite.

He really needs a toupee with some brains in it.
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If Goodell had "decided" (he decides nothing, the owners do) that Elliot did nothing wrong, Jones would be falling all over himself trying make Goodell Commisioner for life.

The owners want a string stand against domestic violence no matter what the circumstances. If it weren't his player facing the suspension then Jones would be at the forefront saying Goodell was doing exactly what needed to be done.
 
Jones is only out for himself but the problem is that under the NFL system Goodell is Judge and jury; it's not a system of discipline courts like, which is why every well known discipline case seems to wind up in the courts.
 
The owners are all greedy scum. You don't make that much money without being a self-serving sociopath consumed only with the acquisition of wealth. All decisions they make are based on profit. That is why they can initially support the NFL player protests and then do a complete about face when it starts to affect viewership. That is why they can make a big deal about improving player safety but then suggest playing more and more games.
 
jazzeum said:
Jones is only out for himself but the problem is that under the NFL system Goodell is Judge and jury; it's not a system of discipline courts like, which is why every well known discipline case seems to wind up in the courts.
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BINGO.

Regarding the Brady suspension, when he appealed it, instead of it going to an independent arbitrator, it went to Goodell, ie, no shot at a reduction.

That's on the players union for allowing that in the first place.

Goodell doesn't make any of these decisions, he does what the owners tell him to do, or more specifically, the Mara's and the Rooney's, those two families run this league and if anyone thinks otherwise, they are clueless..........................
 
You could probably add the Halas family to the above two.
 
jazzeum said:
You could probably add the Halas family to the above two.
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Kraft got totally blindsided with the Deflategate farce; he thought he was one of the good old boys, one of the fellas, one of the power owners and a pal to everyone.

Boy was he wrong.
 
Warrior said:
Kraft got totally blindsided with the Deflategate farce; he thought he was one of the good old boys, one of the fellas, one of the power owners and a pal to everyone.

Boy was he wrong.
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The same thing happened to Eddie DeBartolo when went through his troubles. He quickly learned that despite helping build the NFL brand in the 80's and 90's the other owners turned on him in an instant, mostly out of jealousy.

The best part of deflate-gate is that the Patriots, Kraft and Brady got the last laugh on the other owners. Brady gained a ton of credit (rightfully so) for backing down and serving the suspension. Then he and the Pats went on to win the Super Bowl.
 
Panzer ace said:
He quickly learned that despite helping build the NFL brand in the 80's and 90's the other owners turned on him in an instant, mostly out of jealousy.
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Yup, the reason the other owners fully supported Goodells handling of Deflategate was they were sick of the Patriots winning, ie, jealousy.

What a classy bunch, I feel the same way towards the owners as Doug/Combat does................pond scum, the whole lot of them.
 
On the CTE front I am starting to realize that there is plenty of blame to go around.

The owners/league have tried to implement protocols for player safety by requiring players to get checked out after taking obvious, large hits to the helmet and head area. Yet just about every week I see a player get crushed then he tries to either return to the field to play or flat out refuses to go through the sideline testing.

Again, I am no fan of the owners but at the very least they are trying to protect players and avoid some of the future calamities that come with playing the game. The players can't demand action, refuse to follow medical advice and then complain when their careers are over that the league did not try and help. Sorry guys, you can't have it both ways.
 
Panzer ace said:
On the CTE front I am starting to realize that there is plenty of blame to go around.

The owners/league have tried to implement protocols for player safety by requiring players to get checked out after taking obvious, large hits to the helmet and head area. Yet just about every week I see a player get crushed then he tries to either return to the field to play or flat out refuses to go through the sideline testing.

Again, I am no fan of the owners but at the very least they are trying to protect players and avoid some of the future calamities that come with playing the game. The players can't demand action, refuse to follow medical advice and then complain when their careers are over that the league did not try and help. Sorry guys, you can't have it both ways.
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The owners covered up for as long as possible. If they were truly interested in player safety they would shorten the schedule by going back to 14 games and forget the preseason farce. But that means money out of their pockets. They are solely interested in profit. That sometimes entails making symbolic concessions for public relations but never substantive changes. Players are expected play injured in the league. That is the culture. They know their careers would suffer if they didn't play hurt. I saw a sideline commentator recently question the toughness of the UCLA QB when he got knocked out of a game and suggested his unwillingness to play hurt would hurt his draft status. Turns out he had a concussion. They need neutral doctors to make the call on the sidelines and force guys to sit when they are hurt.
 
Combat said:
The owners covered up for as long as possible. If they were truly interested in player safety they would shorten the schedule by going back to 14 games and forget the preseason farce. But that means money out of their pockets. They are solely interested in profit. That sometimes entails making symbolic concessions for public relations but never substantive changes. Players are expected play injured in the league. That is the culture. They know their careers would suffer if they didn't play hurt. I saw a sideline commentator recently question the toughness of the UCLA QB when he got knocked out of a game and suggested his unwillingness to play hurt would hurt his draft status. Turns out he had a concussion. They need neutral doctors to make the call on the sidelines and force guys to sit when they are hurt.
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Good points, and I am in no way defending the owners.

Just curious, how would a neutral doctor convince a player to stay out of the game when he is injured anymore than one who is paid by the NFL?
 
Warrior said:
Yup, the reason the other owners fully supported Goodells handling of Deflategate was they were sick of the Patriots winning, ie, jealousy.

What a classy bunch, I feel the same way towards the owners as Doug/Combat does................pond scum, the whole lot of them.
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George,

I don't necessarily disagree, but I thought and always have thought the Rooneys and Kraft always got along quite well. If you will recall recently when Blount walked out of Pittsburgh under cloudy circumstances and then reappeared as a Patriot literally 3 days later, there was zero commotion over that and let's be honest in that situation, can you imagine some of the owners reaction ie tampering, etc etc. It almost seemed like the Steelers and Pats got together and gave the guy a landing place even though odds are they were going to see each other in January. I know I am a homer for Pittsburgh, but I believe the Rooney family has been a leader and they are not the jealous type. I think they are a very quiet but powerful owner family, you don't read any of their dirty laundry or opinions in the newsrags.

We only really ever see the vocal and loud owners to include Jones, the Davis, the nimrod from San Diego, etc.

And , right now, I am rooting for the Jones contingent to finally oust Goodell. That joke has got to go!
TD
 
tdubel said:
George,

I don't necessarily disagree, but I thought and always have thought the Rooneys and Kraft always got along quite well. If you will recall recently when Blount walked out of Pittsburgh under cloudy circumstances and then reappeared as a Patriot literally 3 days later, there was zero commotion over that and let's be honest in that situation, can you imagine some of the owners reaction ie tampering, etc etc. It almost seemed like the Steelers and Pats got together and gave the guy a landing place even though odds are they were going to see each other in January. I know I am a homer for Pittsburgh, but I believe the Rooney family has been a leader and they are not the jealous type. I think they are a very quiet but powerful owner family, you don't read any of their dirty laundry or opinions in the newsrags.

We only really ever see the vocal and loud owners to include Jones, the Davis, the nimrod from San Diego, etc.

And , right now, I am rooting for the Jones contingent to finally oust Goodell. That joke has got to go!
TD
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The reaction around the league by fans and mediots over Marty Bennett being cut by the Packers and then picked up by New England has been priceless, "Cheatriots", "Belicheat", "Here we go again, the Patriots are up to their old tricks".............think of what is going to happen when he catches the game winning TD in the Super Bowl in February, heads will explode everywhere..................
 
Today may be a make or break game for the Giants coach. If they lose to the winless Niners, his fate is sealed. It would be in the Niners interest to lose. Otherwise they will be tied with the Giants for the number 2 pick in the draft.
 
jazzeum said:
Today may be a make or break game for the Giants coach. If they lose to the winless Niners, his fate is sealed. It would be in the Niners interest to lose. Otherwise they will be tied with the Giants for the number 2 pick in the draft.
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Big article in the Post sports section this AM about how it's time for Eli to move on and the Giants to give the younger Qb's a shot. Interesting article. -- Al
 
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