What are the Forum members reading (3 Viewers)

[Combat]

"Empire of the Summer Moon" by S.C. Gwynne. This is an outstanding book about the history of conflict with the Comanches. It's well written, entertaining, and non-revisionist. In particular, it accurately portrays the atrocities committed by the plains Indians including torture, rape, and mass murder. They operated as a type of primitive Einsatzgruppen. Some of the stories are horrific. Men, women, and infants that were roasted alive. The book has been condemned by the present-day Native Americans because it does not perpetuate the desired narrative that they were peace loving folk who only committed violent acts in their own defense. Interestingly, if you search for atrocities committed by Native Americans on sources like Google, it only provides examples of atrocities committed against Native Americans including explanations such as while there were some atrocities committed by them that they were in response to wrongs. A great example of how bias is incorporated into those algorithms.

 

[Go for Broke]

"Empire of the Summer Moon" by S.C. Gwynne. This is an outstanding book about the history of conflict with the Comanches. It's well written, entertaining, and non-revisionist. In particular, it accurately portrays the atrocities committed by the plains Indians including torture, rape, and mass murder. They operated as a type of primitive Einsatzgruppen. Some of the stories are horrific. Men, women, and infants that were roasted alive. The book has been condemned by the present-day Native Americans because it does not perpetuate the desired narrative that they were peace loving folk who only committed violent acts in their own defense. Interestingly, if you search for atrocities committed by Native Americans on sources like Google, it only provides examples of atrocities committed against Native Americans including explanations such as while there were some atrocities committed by them that they were in response to wrongs. A great example of how bias is incorporated into those algorithms.

I read this book. Brutal. When you watch westerns on TV and the settlers exclaim, "Those savages!", that's what you come away with when you read this book. Maybe that's what it took to survive. I read a Lewis and Clark book, Undaunted Courage and one tribe would starve out another tribe.

 

[marco55]

Even if it was wrong to take the indian's land, if your friends or family got captured by them and suffered greatly you would hate them too.
Mark

 

[Combat]

Even if it was wrong to take the indian's land, if your friends or family got captured by them and suffered greatly you would hate them too.
Mark

The Indians really didn't have any "land." They were mostly nomads with no concept of land ownership. They moved around like the wind. Their society was largely based on raiding and stealing. When they encountered settlers, they murdered and raped. Brutal stuff. There were atrocities committed against them but most often in response to these crimes as you note. Hopefully someone makes "Blood Meridian" into the film it deserves. The old west was not for the faint, and the revisionist Hollywood nonsense has created a false narrative. It was a time and place of complete insanity.

 

[Northgate Woods]

A very god account of how British was used (Wireless Ridge) and not used (Goose Green)