Just because someone doesn't agree with your opinion doesn't mean they are Anti Semite. Australians have a different culture to Americans, and most Australians are not Religious, consequently we don't have the same bias as some American forum members.
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waynepoo
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In a nutshell OZ......
Horus
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Blaming Israel for terrorism by Muslims in Australia, US, Britain, France, Germany, India, Nigeria, Sudan, The Congo and so many other countries just won't wash.
Radical Islam as promoted by Iran and its proxies in its hate against anyone or anything unislamic is the issue and without non radicalised Muslims speaking out for fear of being targeted themselves their silence shows what fear these people have where they turn to violence first, they have no moderation, look at their reaction to a few cartoons in Denmark or the Charlie Hebdo magazine massacre.
Look at the rising number of Muslim prisoners, look at the number of sex attacks by them.
Yes locals all commit these crimes too, but there is no need to impose the importation of more of it and tell you if you notice, you are racist. It's not racism, it the morally corrupt societies they come from that they think as the norm that must be pushed back, and blaming Israel for all this is total nonsense.
Why is it always Muslim terrorists, Muslim rape gangs ?
Radical Islam as promoted by Iran and its proxies in its hate against anyone or anything unislamic is the issue and without non radicalised Muslims speaking out for fear of being targeted themselves their silence shows what fear these people have where they turn to violence first, they have no moderation, look at their reaction to a few cartoons in Denmark or the Charlie Hebdo magazine massacre.
Look at the rising number of Muslim prisoners, look at the number of sex attacks by them.
Yes locals all commit these crimes too, but there is no need to impose the importation of more of it and tell you if you notice, you are racist. It's not racism, it the morally corrupt societies they come from that they think as the norm that must be pushed back, and blaming Israel for all this is total nonsense.
Why is it always Muslim terrorists, Muslim rape gangs ?
Hey you’re free to BELIEVE there is no God(s). Be my guest. But you cant prove it. Moreover, by not believing in a higher power, you then must believe that the entire universe created itself, from nothing; That the immutable laws of the universe, ala quantum physics, gravity, etc., created themselves; and that its possible for life to birth itself from non-life…Among many other improbabilities, which I’m sure you’ve pondered deeply. Personally, to me it takes more faith to believe all that than it does to believe in a God.
PS I respect your right to believe in the idea of the multiverse — in which literally everything that can exist, does. So, in fact, if there is a multiverse, somewhere two pink elephants are having this exact same discussion….
PSS Men have fought brutal wars over a single woman! (See Helen). They’ll fight over a ham sandwich if given the opportunity.
Some of us have evolved from the ancient fallback; God Did It.
It's never too late to learn some actual Science, let's start with the basics.
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Yeah, you're lucky on that score. No need to reply I'm blocking you.
tdubel
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My main point is when you equate Israel to same level as the terrorists that chant Death To Israel, Death To the USA on a daily basis, you go in that category in my book. This is not about disagreeing with my thoughts, it is simply a reaction to that line of thinking. For me on this subject, there is zero gray area, it is pretty black and white. I don't have any emotion on this, it is just simple facts. The goal of Muslim terrorists is the death of all infidels (largest part of their definition is Jews and Americans). That simple.
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Like I said in my “long winded answer” of a couple hundred words (I’m guessing you don’t read too many books), you’re free to have your faith (in no god) as I am to have my faith (in a god). Neither of us can prove their faith with absolute certainty. That’s why it’s called faith. Duh.
The pink elephants (if they exist) do so in a completely other universe. Good luck spotting them, but keep looking until you do!
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Dude, I’ve watched and read innumerable books and videos on the origin of the universe. I’ve gone deeply into “the science”. You haven’t evolved, you’ve devolved into wild speculation about multiverses.
To wit: The science does not and cannot explain the causal origin of the Big Bang. Science cannot explain from whence the fine tuning of the universe nor the origin of the fundamental forces of nature. Science has never successfully explained or proved that life can come from non-life without human intervention. Sciences only explanation, as it were, is the multiverse. In which a fully autonomous universe generating mechanism spews forth trillions of potential universes with all possible scenarios and make up. And we are just lucky to be in one of the (who knows how many) trillions of universes that is friendly to life. Albeit not exceptionally friendly. But of course none of these other universes are observable by us. So instead of one god, you believe in trillions of universes - btw in which ann exact copy of you, with very slight differences, exists millions of times.
Net net, I’ve long since surpassed the basics.
Why mate? It seems like an overeaction to a minor disagreement that you basically started with your insult(s).
I doubt very much that any Australians consider Israel is on the same 'Terrorist' level as Muslims and we have seen on our TVs where Muslims shouted 'Gas the Jews' etc at recent national events. However as you may know, Israel has a history of 'aquiring' land from Muslims and untaking military action to retain it. My Grandfather served in the Middle East during WWI, including Military Policing of Aussie Soldiers and the 'Natives', he didn't see any Jews there, all the locals were Muslims/Arabs, or at least they were in the Vast Majority. Subsequently Muslims have tried to take their land back with military action but keep losing. What other choice do they have, Guerrilla actions are not confined to Muslims. I am certainly not condoning their Terrorist actions, but can 'kind of' understand their motivation. And most Religious Books are Hard Core Against other Religions Etc, it's not confined to Muslims.
And you have to view comments from most Aussies based on the fact that most don't believe there is a god, combine that with a very upsetting Terrorist action in a place that most Australians hold 'sacred', for want of a better word. Then don't be surpised why many Australians are now thinking; Why does our Government support these varied Religious groups, they only bring Aggravation and Misery, not the Hope and Good Will that their Dogma Professes. Now our Government wants to crack down on Guns as they are too gutless to adopt a more effective response, and I'm really Pi$$ed Off about that.
Well of course you're not going to change your mind despite all the Scientific Evidence, you have experienced a Lifetime of Indoctrination, similar to most Muslims
At least Stop with the 'Multiversing' Dude, very few Scientists think that's 'a thing'.
However, I will agree with you on One thing, as do most Scientists. The Universe is a Very Hostile environment, Solar Sytems where multicellular, especially 'Intelligent' life, is able to develop is likely to be Extremely Rare, we are indeed Special on Earth.
wayne556517
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Exactly it's a faith not a fact like evolution, science.Like I said in my “long winded answer” of a couple hundred words (I’m guessing you don’t read too many books), you’re free to have your faith (in no god) as I am to have my faith (in a god). Neither of us can prove their faith with absolute certainty. That’s why it’s called faith. Duh.
The pink elephants (if they exist) do so in a completely other universe. Good luck spotting them, but keep looking until you do!
Answer me these then.... Why do all these religions need so much money?
You can do to the poorest towns, communities etc and the grandest building is a church.
Also how can a King start a religion just to divorce his wife and that religion still exists today.
Why do religions belittle women.
I won't get into the atrocities priest have committed over the centuries but I think we all know what I mean and they are fact not faith.
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Long story short Israel has only "acquired" land when they have been attacked, they kick said attackers rear end then they keep the land as a buffer. Again they are not the aggressor. As I said it is not a gray area, their is only one group who is responsible for these disasters and it is Muslim terrorists. No ifs ands or but about it.
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Regardless of whether God exists, or the rights and wrongs of the middle east conflict, there does seem to be one common factor to all these attacks on innocent people going about their business.
Twin towers, Manchester arena, Bataclan theatre, New Orleans Madi Gras, Christmas market attacks, and now Bondi beach.
Twin towers, Manchester arena, Bataclan theatre, New Orleans Madi Gras, Christmas market attacks, and now Bondi beach.
I have to admit it's easy to blame 'Religion' and obviously we can point the finger at 'The Muslims', but all the above attacks were caused by Fanatics, and they seem to be multiplying.
For example, locally we recently had a Brazilian tourist that drove a car into a group of people, killing One woman, all because some teenagers upset him earlier;
Now Australians are asking 'what's next', Zombies
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Nice to know who I can trust on here, and good to see that includes all the folks I have met in the flesh.
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Muslims always go on about wanting to be martyrs, but they so often go for targets that are defenceless, with little girls, women, people who can offer the least resistance their preferred ones.
In gangs and groups and that by the way is their strength as they always stand by each other in situations, where they come into contact with non muslims as they do in the ever growing muslim prison population, with so many of them being wrong un's.