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ivanmoe said:
It goes back to an NFL quarterback kneeling during the national anthem. He was making the gesture to protest the shooting death of an 18yo Afrian-American, Michael Brown. A limited number of other players mimicked the guy, but it hurt the league because a percentage of fans boycotted the league and TV-ratings declined. The player eventually lost his position and was unable to land a job with another team. The good news for the guy was that he had become a cultural icon to American leftists (aka Progessives) and Nike Shoes.:rolleyes: Been so ever since.
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To add to the good summary above, it should be noted that:

A. Michael Brown was not an innocent victim. The police office was fully exonerated and there was zero gray area factually in this officer involved shooting.

B. The said QB was on his way out as a talent for first string NFL quarterback. Is/was he still good enough to be a back up, Yes that is true, but his attitude is what really did him in, he became toxic to all NFL owners and nobody will give him a job.

The biggest controversy is that the majority of fans and Americans didn't appreciate the methodology of kneeling during our National Anthem. I don't then and still don't now believe that this gesture is the right way to get your message out anymore than rioting in the streets. Additionally, professional football and all sports are supposed to be fun for the athletes, the fans, etc. Yes, it is big money, but it is there for everyone's joy and entertainment. I don't think a lot of people tune in each week or root for their team to send political messages. I equate professional athletes in the same way as hollywood icons, they get paid and make their careers to entertain. In the end, that is their job. What they do on their own time with their own money is solely up to them. A lot of the athletes do give back to their respective communities, they do support, fund and participate in worthy causes like racial inequality, etc. I would like to think they would be better served to do that instead of controversies that half of the US can't stand.

Last part was my 2 cents, A and B hopefully add more to the earlier explanation.
TD
 
tdubel said:
Chris, i think i have this right, but late tonight surveillance video has surfaced that shows that restaurant owner opened fire on authorities first and he was then fired upon. It was not a random target from what I just read, they returned his fire and killed him. It doesn't look like they randomly fired back into the crowd and hit him. Again, I saw this was just released, I am by no means an authority on this, it just looks like new information is contradicting a lot of what was reported earlier. The statements were attributed to local authorities. It doesn't give any indication of why he fired, but it says it is clear that he had a gun and fired first, they directly returned the fire and hit the mark. Now, it is an awful occurrence but if what I just read is true, I have a hard time faulting an officer for doing their job.
TD
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I don't think this in the national news anymore but police reports show two shots fired from the restaurant owner's gun. Both shell casings recovered at the scene. He was struck once in the chest from a Nat'l Guard weapon. Family members claim he fired into the air to "calm things down." And criticized the use of military weapons (Nat'l Gd) the demonstration. I'm not making up the last part. :rolleyes2: Chris
 
Just got the word a short time ago that FALL IN, the third of the large HMGS (Historical Miniatures Gaming Society) wargaming conventions I attend is now canceled.

The convention is not scheduled to be held until the last weekend in October, but the club president decided along with the rest of the HMGS board that canceling it with all the uncertainty currently is best, plus the convention center where it is held sent them an email with a list 5 miles long of all the precautions they want taken/enforced and due to the nature of the convention (wargaming in groups around tables), their demands/conditions could not be met. You can't social distance while wargaming, it's for lack of a better term a close contact hobby.

So that's now the SIXTH show to be canceled this year that I normally attend, leaving four, one of which is held in September, I think that one is next to be canceled, another is held at a college, that one probably won't be held either, nor will another one that's held in a REC center, similar to a YMCA, so that leaves one show...…………...at this point, regardless of what happens with that one, I'm canceling out, might as well go 0 for the year.

One of the comments I read on a message board where wargamers post spoke to me;

"I wonder how many people won't come back to the conventions?"

A real shame, but a very valid point. Barring this thing completely burning out/a vaccine to 100% prevent it, I can see that happening.

When this virus first started blowing up in February/March in this country, an infectious disease expert predicted we'd be in this mess for a year and I remember for lack of a better term laughing that off, I foolishly assumed this would all blow over by the Summer.

Man oh man was I wrong.

And he's looking more and more correct; an entire year of this.

What a complete and utter ****show.
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George,

I think this the strangest, and with the possible exception of 2001 into 2002 (after 9-11), the worst year I can remember. I am just hoping for an effective vaccine. Where’s Jonas Salk when you need him!?🙁
 
Louis Badolato said:
George,

I think this the strangest, and with the possible exception of 2001 into 2002 (after 9-11), the worst year I can remember. I am just hoping for an effective vaccine. Where’s Jonas Salk when you need him!?🙁
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With no disrespect to you or any other New Yorker who went through 911, experienced personal and professional loss, this year hands down has been the worst year ever in my opinion.

911 was horrendous, a despicable act, the loss of life and destruction was terrible, but the country rallied around the event, Americans banded together and had each others backs, it created a massive surge of patriotism.

I'll never, as in ever, forget the ovation Bush got when he strode to the mound in the WS and fired a strike home, Yankee fans erupted, it was an incredible moment.

Three things in all of that madness that stuck out to me; I was out a few days later running an errand and I was at the top of my street waiting to pull out into traffic, a fella in a jeep had a huge American flag mounted on a pole strapped to the side of his jeep, he waved me out, I thanked him, pointed to the flag and gave him a thumbs up, he gave me one back, my car got incredibly dusty and my eyes started sweating...……………:wink2:

Secondly, a local radio station here in Boston played a montage of sounds as people reacted to the events of 911 and they overlaid "Proud to be an American" by Lee Greenwood, it was gut wrenching to listen to it...…………...and thirdly, all the vehicles parked at various train stations in NY/NJ and CT covered in dust months after 911, they were owned by commuters who died in the twin towers and never retrieved their vehicles.

This is totally, totally different; people hording toilet paper, shoving people out of the way to buy the last bottle of hand sanitizer, hooray for me and **** everyone else, all for one, I for myself, we going on SIX months of dealing with this virus, not only that, now our country is getting literally torn apart with civil unrest and we are descending into madness, lawlessness, complete chaos with no real end in sight.

It's incredibly depressing to see what is happening to this country.
 
This virus has certainly changed our way of life and I agree that it will continue this way for some time.

One of the scary things to me is that most of us may have had this highly contagious virus but didn't know it.

It's worth reading this article where 81% of the passengers that Had the virus displayed No symptoms. That's no sneezing, no sore throat etc, imagine passing it on accidentally to someone vulnerable, no worries to you but a death sentence to them.

https://lighthouse.mq.edu.au/articl...tarctic-cruise-ship-had-no-symptoms-new-study
 
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George,

You are right, in the sense that Covid has effected everyone worldwide while 9-11 was more an American problem. Both events took the lives of people I knew, but Covid has been more far reaching in its consequences.
 
Just spent a week in Gatlinburg, TN and the Smokey Mountains. Quite an eye opener for someone who has been on PA lockdown for three months. There was an outrageous number of tourists. Almost no one was wearing a mask. Maybe they will all go home and die from the virus, but absent the news reports there would be no way of knowing we are in the midst of a pandemic. The souvenir shops were full of Trump-related items. Nary a one relating to Biden or the dems.
 
Combat said:
Just spent a week in Gatlinburg, TN and the Smokey Mountains. Quite an eye opener for someone who has been on PA lockdown for three months. There was an outrageous number of tourists. Almost no one was wearing a mask. Maybe they will all go home and die from the virus, but absent the news reports there would be no way of knowing we are in the midst of a pandemic. The souvenir shops were full of Trump-related items. Nary a one relating to Biden or the dems.
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Combat,

On the other hand here in San Antonio, I swear mask wearing has not let up. I was just musing to the wife yesterday that at Home Depot nothing has changed as far as my observation of people wearing masks. Been going there all year and even in the HEAT, now. Sure, there are those who don't wear one and they don't have to per the state, city and company mandates. Even so, everywhere I go people are masked up and some (like me) are wearing gloves. Next week the humidity comes back and we will be searing into the 100's from here on out, but with the reports of COVID-19 locally people are still invoking the original precautions of social distancing, etc. Frankly, I am proud of my community that I see and though I don't know whats going on in the rest of the state or other cities here in Texas, I feel a sense of compliance.

George,

I have a really weird memory of 9/11. I was at UT Austin at the time and the wife called me and told me that a plane struck one of the twin towers. When I got to class there was a note on the door that it was cancelled and when I passed by a break room, that was the first time I saw the tower on fire. Anyway, since class was cancelled I decided to go home and listen to the news on the radio, which got worse and worse by the minute. I commuted to class from San Antonio and the drive is about an hour long and you can imagine the volatility of the situation changing by the second and the only thing I could think of was that this was a wave of terrorism that is going from NY, to DC, to Penn to Chicago, St. Louis, Memphis and so on, because in my mind EVERY plane could be hijacked from the East to West Coast. I had visions of planes dropping out of the sky. Anyway, while I was pondering this unbelievable thought I noticed I-35 was becoming virtually empty and out of the blue I saw a van pulled over on the shoulder with its flashers on. There was a group of my kneeling on berm with their prayer rugs, all middle eastern and frantically bowing up and down to the sky. There was about 6 of them and as I blew by I remember seeing them have those little white skull caps on. I have never seen that happen anywhere in the US, let alone a Texas highway...while plane number 2 just struck tower 2. I did see that happen all the time in Saudi Arabia, but they do it in the mosques not on the side of the road. I never forgot that and I have always wondered if those dudes knew what was going down. It was just bizarre, especially at that time and to this day (besides the ENTIRE 9/11 episode) I will never forget that.

Louis B, our Jonas Salk is there, somewhere, tired, got no sleep, exhausted, hungry, frustrated, but working it and trying to find a solution. He or she is there on the job and is going to make it happen. I have faith.

Every time I hear the song "Here's where the story ends" by The Sundays on my playlist I reflect on this year.

"t's that little souvenir of a terrible year"

John from Texas
 
hotel3alpha said:
Combat,

On the other hand here in San Antonio, I swear mask wearing has not let up. I was just musing to the wife yesterday that at Home Depot nothing has changed as far as my observation of people wearing masks. Been going there all year and even in the HEAT, now. Sure, there are those who don't wear one and they don't have to per the state, city and company mandates. Even so, everywhere I go people are masked up and some (like me) are wearing gloves. Next week the humidity comes back and we will be searing into the 100's from here on out, but with the reports of COVID-19 locally people are still invoking the original precautions of social distancing, etc. Frankly, I am proud of my community that I see and though I don't know whats going on in the rest of the state or other cities here in Texas, I feel a sense of compliance.



John from Texas
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A few weeks ago the news media was aghast at a crowded pool party. They ran the footage for several days. That was nothing, however, to what I saw going on in TN. The place was absolutely packed with thousands of tourists on the streets. They had some type of hot rod convention scheduled for this weekend that was cancelled but those folks still showed up in droves. If you watched the news, you would think it was the end of times. But the reality is much different. That's not to undermine the impact of the virus but many people have apparently decided it's time to move on and accept the consequences.
 
Yes people are fed up with the hypocrisy of state and local officials and don't believe what they say.Our beaches were packed last weekend with virtually no one wearing masks.More and more people where I work aren't wearing them as it isn't climate controlled and some people's faces are getting irritated by them.
Mark
 
Masks???

I could attempt to profile my area's adult residents as to their apparent willingness, or lack thereof, to don protective masks.

However, I'm going to spare y'all the detailed analysis, as I daily encounter clear exceptions to just about any such rule(s) that I could offer...except for age.

Clearly, the older that Texans are, the more likely that they are to wear facial coverings.

Conversely, the largest contingent of "never maskers," in the Austin area, appears to be 20-40 year-olds, with a marginal preponderance being male, of all races and ethnicities, in all parts of the community.

There's no point in speculating as to what's motivateed them to be so unmotivated, but, to some degree, I have to assume that they don't see COVID-19 as being a threat to their personal health.

I'd take a pic to prove that what I've stated above is accurate, but I'd probably be violating someones privacy.:redface2:

Such is life.

-Moe
 
same thing here Moe...
absolutely jam packed beaches with tourists...
elbow to elbow...
butt to butt...
I'm simply amazed with the no appearance of PPE...
and especially agree with your premise to a large degree...
the younger they are...
the more reluctant they are to wear masks...
 
I was wondering how busy it was in Texas. We booked a July flight to drive Austin to Corpus to Houston to scope the area for houses.I had read yesterday that Houston was considering another shut down and was wondering if I should even try to make it. I am worried about finding restaurants open.
 
Chuck...

both Galveston and Corpus are considered beach tourist towns...
this is peak tourist season...
the crowds in Galveston are in full force on the weekends...

the weekends are really, really, really busy...
lots of wild congested unprotected kids...
a breeding ground for the virus...
I would not venture to the Seawall in the afternoon or evening on Friday or Saturdays....
but the week days...not so bad...they seem safe enough...

there were actually 3 shootings last weekend...
something called a "Slab Party"...
that was advertised on social media and drew a whopping crowd of out of towners...

with all that said...
I ride my bicycle on the Seawall almost every day early in the morning...
and it's pretty hopping even at 8-9 AM...

I have not eaten in a restaurant since February...
and still won't...
but all the restaurants seem to be open and seem busy...

below is a live cam at several locations in Galveston...

https://www.galveston.com/webcams/seawallvideocam/

it gets unreal on Friday and especially Sat nights...
absolutely unreal...
last night and last weekend they closed and diverted traffic off the Seawall as traffic stalled...

Austin and Houston...
are not considered major tourist towns in my opinion...
as they have no beaches...
but still get a lot of visitors...
I would think they are not as congested as Galveston and Corpus...
but I'm sure you can find live cams on line to be your own judge...

Houston's mayor is considering a city shutdown again...
since Abbott re-opened the beaches...
cases are soaring in Texas the last couple of weeks...
and I'm not a rocket scientist...
but I knew cases would go up...
and they have...

https://www.galveston.com/webcams/seawallvideocam/
 
Chuck,

WHATABURGER is ALWAYS open...

Double Meat Combo with two slices of cheese and WHATASIZE it.

If you really hungry...get the PATTY MELT COMBO.

John from Texas
 
hotel3alpha said:
Chuck,

WHATABURGER is ALWAYS open...

Double Meat Combo with two slices of cheese and WHATASIZE it.

If you really hungry...get the PATTY MELT COMBO.

John from Texas
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John...

that's exactly what I say when I step up to the counter...

"#2 w/cheese and jalapenos"...and "whatasize it please"
 
mikemiller1955 said:
John...

that's exactly what I say when I step up to the counter...

"#2 w/cheese and jalapenos"...and "whatasize it please"
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And then shortly after ordering a #2, you do a #2...……………...no doubt about it.
 
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