i am shocked that so many are so understanding of this yea he apoligized when he was exposed what if they did not catch on he would of kept on ringing up the charges all day long. also from what i have read this is not the first time so that tells me its likely there was more in his past we dont know. who would in there right mind would do buisness and give this guy thier credit card after this post.some of you act like its two hundred bucks no matter what amount and hard times he is having does not give him the right to steal and that is what it is stealing .i would never do buisness with this co. ever. i am happy to say i have never had any credit card issues with my dealer.
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Well said
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It will be interesting to see if there anything else that gets dragged up during the courtcase.
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I'm suprised more people haven't mentioned being over charged then given a credit note.
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Sorry mate but, IMO it does. It sends a message to those criminals and peasents who prey on other people that we (as a society) will not take this type of behaviour.
To do other wise would send a clear signal that you can Steal 189,000 and not expect to lose your liberty and if you are sorry and will repay you may help in the community. A farce IMO.
At the end of the day I do not care if his business folds and, he ends up picking cans for a living its all his own fault, not the chap he stole from, not ours nor a recession there all mitigating excuses he and his defence will play on. he should not be allowed to run a business again, an untrustworthy individual plain and simple
Its disgraceful and he should be punished by a jail term and then still have to repay in full and I would make him also pay the lost interest. Just no excuse for it and nobody can offer me any acceptable explanation for his criminal behaviour.
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To do other wise would send a clear signal that you can Steal 189,000 and not expect to lose your liberty and if you are sorry and will repay you may help in the community. A farce IMO.
At the end of the day I do not care if his business folds and, he ends up picking cans for a living its all his own fault, not the chap he stole from, not ours nor a recession there all mitigating excuses he and his defence will play on. he should not be allowed to run a business again, an untrustworthy individual plain and simple
Its disgraceful and he should be punished by a jail term and then still have to repay in full and I would make him also pay the lost interest. Just no excuse for it and nobody can offer me any acceptable explanation for his criminal behaviour.
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A justice system needs to have rehabiitation and restitution as one of its objecyives as well as punishment
With the earlier problems now exposed, it is not too hard to wonder about who wasn't victimized. If one person (Jackson) gets burned, then it is not too far a stretch that more people were burned. Once an individual goes down the path, it is hard to draw a line about who gets burned and who doesn't. Who would trust this store again? -- Al
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Very true but very hard to achieve in realistic terms. Reading the posts here it's easy to see that.
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The unfortunate thing is that mud sticks and even if he sold his business on to a reputable dealer the name of Michigan Toy Soldiers will always be associated with this incident, so he has not only swindled Mr Jackson but has also blighted any future for his own company and the staff working for him by default. I'm sorry, but the old adage "if you can't do the time, don't do the crime" applies here and punishment must be dealt out. He is lucky he is in America, in some countries in the Middle East he would have his hand cut off. Trooper
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damian...
Quite so and the rehabilitation of this thief can take place according to the institutions that undertake such issues however, he is a person who has committed a serious criminal offence and deserves a substantial punishment. I cannot for the life of me see how anyone can mitigate what he has doine and, it seems not just to one person (though not in the scale). I make no apologies for my stance and we have to make a clear statement to the whole of society and criminals especially that we will not tolerate abuses such as this.
I don't know if I am right but, you seem to be saying once the criminal act is perpetrated we should go directly to rehabilitation and skip the vital element of punishment.
Just because he is involved in the toy soldier business it seems as if its being taken by some as he is one of us so, lets tread carefully well. IMO he is not he is simply a thief and a rather unscrupulous one and deserves everything he will get and IMO substantially more. Had he not been caught he would undoubtedly still be at it now. Its astonishing how capture suddenly makes the criminal rather rightious.
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Quite so and the rehabilitation of this thief can take place according to the institutions that undertake such issues however, he is a person who has committed a serious criminal offence and deserves a substantial punishment. I cannot for the life of me see how anyone can mitigate what he has doine and, it seems not just to one person (though not in the scale). I make no apologies for my stance and we have to make a clear statement to the whole of society and criminals especially that we will not tolerate abuses such as this.
I don't know if I am right but, you seem to be saying once the criminal act is perpetrated we should go directly to rehabilitation and skip the vital element of punishment.
Just because he is involved in the toy soldier business it seems as if its being taken by some as he is one of us so, lets tread carefully well. IMO he is not he is simply a thief and a rather unscrupulous one and deserves everything he will get and IMO substantially more. Had he not been caught he would undoubtedly still be at it now. Its astonishing how capture suddenly makes the criminal rather rightious.
Mitch
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Twice you have said this. No one is saying he shouldn't be punished. It's just that he is not violent, not at risk to flee, so jail sentence helps no one. He can't earn money to pay it back (and then some - no doubt there are interest and fines) while in jail. There are more kinds of punishment than just time out. And frankly, they are cheaper than taxpayers paying for prisoners.
The only thing jail accomplishes now is hardening an individual and helping them make further criminal connections. Sure, put violent people in jail...to keep everyone else safe.
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Wendy...
Then twice I felt it was needed to be said. I firmly believe he deserves a jail sentence and by the look of things he will get one and deservedly so. I also do not think prison is just for the violent etc it also seems from comments that this is not an isolated incident so, if true, it seems some criminals do not learn and it is then necessary to take them and place them into custody. What punishment is allowing someone to do some community service?? it is not a form of punishment whatsoever in a case like this. I pay my taxes and will feel no problem or waste in some of it being spent on jails and for putting someone in there for this type of crime.
I cannot see the point in being so namby pamby its rather easy to decide in ones mind not to steal 189,000 from another person though, it seems its easier for some to do that than have the moral fibre to say I will get myself out of the mess without being a thief.
I have zero sympathy for him or any similar and, I make no accusation to anyone on here but, I am not one of these bleeding hearts liberals who live in ivory towers and tell everyone the good that there is in these people. If you cant do the time dont do the crime. Its really as simple as that.
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Then twice I felt it was needed to be said. I firmly believe he deserves a jail sentence and by the look of things he will get one and deservedly so. I also do not think prison is just for the violent etc it also seems from comments that this is not an isolated incident so, if true, it seems some criminals do not learn and it is then necessary to take them and place them into custody. What punishment is allowing someone to do some community service?? it is not a form of punishment whatsoever in a case like this. I pay my taxes and will feel no problem or waste in some of it being spent on jails and for putting someone in there for this type of crime.
I cannot see the point in being so namby pamby its rather easy to decide in ones mind not to steal 189,000 from another person though, it seems its easier for some to do that than have the moral fibre to say I will get myself out of the mess without being a thief.
I have zero sympathy for him or any similar and, I make no accusation to anyone on here but, I am not one of these bleeding hearts liberals who live in ivory towers and tell everyone the good that there is in these people. If you cant do the time dont do the crime. Its really as simple as that.
Mitch
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I only know what I have read on here...but I'm shocked...what a nice group of people on here...
he "owned up to it"...
he admitted it...
he apologized for it...
he's gonna pay it back...
so what...
big deal...
who cares...
some of you seem to think this exonerates him from the crime and prosecution...
it would have been discovered and made public anyway...
how does his owning up to it excuse anything...
I robbed a bank...but I admit I did it...now let me go...
I stole your car...but I admit I did it...now let me go...
I murdered someone...but I admit I did it...now let me go...
it doesn't work that way...
if I ever commit a crime...I hope I get some of you guys as a jury of my peers...
I admit it...now let me go...
he wouldn't have admitted it if he wasn't caught...
no sympathy from me...
sorry Charlie...
he "owned up to it"...
he admitted it...
he apologized for it...
he's gonna pay it back...
so what...
big deal...
who cares...
some of you seem to think this exonerates him from the crime and prosecution...
it would have been discovered and made public anyway...
how does his owning up to it excuse anything...
I robbed a bank...but I admit I did it...now let me go...
I stole your car...but I admit I did it...now let me go...
I murdered someone...but I admit I did it...now let me go...
it doesn't work that way...
if I ever commit a crime...I hope I get some of you guys as a jury of my peers...
I admit it...now let me go...
he wouldn't have admitted it if he wasn't caught...
no sympathy from me...
sorry Charlie...
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Actually I think the correct sequence of events would be:
HE GOT CAUGHT
he "owned up to it"...
he admitted it...
he apologized for it...
he's gonna pay it back...
Although I have a great deal of sympathy for this situation, I can understand the court dealing out serious punishment for this. This is a serious crime. When you steal $189,000 from someone, regardless of whether you used their credit card or broke into thier house when they or not home and stole $189,000 or tapped into thier bank account, I think it would be just as serious. For crying out loud, what amount has to get stolen before there are serious consequences, half a million, a million.