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Next New Line


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I would also like to see First Legion and other manufacturers cover new eras as opposed to doing more of what is already out there.

I already collect two AZW, two FIW and one ACW range and am unlikely to collect another range in any of them.

Of what's already suggested I'd probably most like to see El Cid or saxons vs vikings or late medieval balkan wars (Vlad the impaler or perhaps Hunyadi)

My suggestions for something new would be:

Italian Abyssinian war 1896
Russo Turkish war 1877
Satsuma Rebellion (i.e "last Samurai")
Hussite Wars - shortly after Grunwald but you also have war wagons and handgunners; or
Great Northern War (300th anniversary of Poltava was earlier this month)

However, whatever range First Legion choose I hope they stick with it (e.g. 100 figures plus). I think most manufacturers have a range that gets abandoned too early. I'd rather see 200 new Stalingrad figures than 10 new ranges of twenty figures each.

Sheesh....and I thought I liked fairly obscure stuff....????
I really like the Russo/Turkish 1877 idea - and the Italian/Abyssinian War, Battle of Adowa anyone?
Satsuma Rebellion could perhaps be covered with another manufacturers Boxer Rebellion Japanese troops and Samurai figures - something I've been considering doing actually using FL's forthcoming Samurai Cavalry?
Great Northern War 1700-1721 is an interesting choice. The emergence of Russia as a Great European Power would appeal to FL's artisans I would think.
Hussite Wars? I'm getting a bit fuzzy now, the Reformation in Bohemia wasn't it?

Wow....That really is getting into what appeals to me from FL in the future.
And I couldn't agree more about covering ranges with 100+ figures - but i getr the feeling that's exactly what FL is all about, especially with the ingrained wargaming ethos that's evident in the Napoleonic ranges.

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Harry
 
And I couldn't agree more about covering ranges with 100+ figures - but i getr the feeling that's exactly what FL is all about, especially with the ingrained wargaming ethos that's evident in the Napoleonic ranges.

Originally posted by the 999th
However, whatever range First Legion choose I hope they stick with it (e.g. 100 figures plus). I think most manufacturers have a range that gets abandoned too early. I'd rather see 200 new Stalingrad figures than 10 new ranges of twenty figures each.

Amen to that. 20 figures does not a range make, so rest assured we will never put ourselves in a position where we have too many ranges out and need to support them all and can't. With our range design approach of doing specific battles, each range we do will be exceedingly focused, extremely complete, and definitely finite. So as we expand into new periods/ranges, we may get asked "When are you going to do another range in this historical PERIOD" but never "when are you going to finish this RANGE." Finally, I just don't think you can guage the success or failure of a range until you fully develop it and, as already stated, I'm pretty confident that as a MFR, you can do just about any topic and if you do it well enough and enough of it, it will sell. Perhaps that's being naive, but quality in quantity is usually a pretty successful recipe.
 
I was more than a little surprised to see that the Spanish / Moorish Wars did so well (2nd un-weighted, 5th weighted).

Aye, but don't forget Bill, most folk here have see the movie. So they know a bit about it.
:)

No Offense.
Harry
 
There's plenty of different periods of history that interest me, I already collect Napoleonic, Crimean, Zulu War and Asian themed figures, it's just the Sudan War was a favourite of mine from my wargaming days and imho needs to be represented in a matt range. I'm sure you could produce a rather magnificent series :)

Jeff

Aye, and that's another good movie with Chuck in it too. And he was at Peking for a few days in 1900 too.
Mind you, so was I a couple of days ago.
:)

Matt, please do figures for Chuck movies.

Cheers
Harry
 
I went Korea...I love the M46 Patton tank. To my delight, one just appeared in 1/72 scale and it's nice
 
Aye, but don't forget Bill, most folk here have see the movie. So they know a bit about it.
:)

No Offense.
Harry
True enough, I just watched it again last night. I was right thrilled when they finally came out with a well done flim restoration and DVD transfer.
 
I'd love to see the Franco-Prussian War of 1870 done in a big scale, FL would be an excellent manufacturer of such a range.
 
Operation Archery for me,Vaasgo raid 1941.And as a back up Agincourt.:)

The British in Burma would also be a great range.

Rob
 
Hey, I just noticed the Boxer Rebellion has got 4 votes in this poll for completely new First Legion ranges.
Hmmm, and there was me considering picking up my first sets of another manufacturers figures depicting this conflict in 4 weeks or so. Think I might just go for the Chinese figures in this range until we see how this might pan out and if this is going to be one of FL's new ranges. Cos I'd love to see another Asian series added to the already available Samurai range from FL which is getting reinforcements soon - although my personal preference would still be for Mongols.

Cheers
H
 
Everybody was not confident to with a new East Front Range (Russians will not sell), I think the Stalingrad reaction and feedbacks are better than good, so, why not enter in a new range something that is not WWII.

Please Ancient subject.

Rod.
 
I see three votes for WW1 here too.Now that would also be a cracker of a series,perhaps Gallipoli,Verdun,Passchendaele?.Any of these would be terrific releases and pretty popular.Some Brits and Aussies in Gallipoli especially.

Rob
 
Everybody was not confident to with a new East Front Range (Russians will not sell), I think the Stalingrad reaction and feedbacks are better than good, so, why not enter in a new range something that is not WWII.

Please Ancient subject.

Rod.

Great post Rod.
Isn't it amazing that when the same nonsense is repeated ad nauseum, how soon it becomes "perceived wisdom", when it's actually nothing of the kind. As Matt himself has said, beautiful figures from just about any era will sell - and I'll buy them, given that its an era that fires my imagination.
I've said elsewhere on this forum that I'm not completely sold on FL's Stalingrad range, and that's my privilege as a paying customer - but that's not to say that I won't buy into it eventually. They're quite simply the best scale miniature figurines from WWII that I've ever seen, but I want to catch up on some of the Napoleonics, get the forthcoming new additions to the Samurai range - and see what's coming next, before I get into the FL vision of WWII. And that's just in case FL bring out something that I'll find to be simply irresistible - including Ancients, although I'm still not sure if I'd go for Romans.
Ho-Hum.

Regards
Harry
 
I see three votes for WW1 here too.Now that would also be a cracker of a series,perhaps Gallipoli,Verdun,Passchendaele?.Any of these would be terrific releases and pretty popular.Some Brits and Aussies in Gallipoli especially.

Rob

Hmm, just speaking for myself of course, Verdun and Passchendaele don't hold too much attraction - although I can see why they would appeal to a certain kind of collector, I think.
I've kind of gone off the idea of Gallipoli too - although I'd be very interested in seeing how FL would do this.
Naah, for WWI Australian subjects in particular, I'd be more inclined to go for another manufacturers new Mounted Infantry range that was recently announced - and I reckon it'll be the entire series for me, given what I've seen of the photos we've been fortunate enough to have previewed on this forum.
If we're going to ask FL for WWI, how about the East African conflict - plenty of interesting material there.

Cheers
H
 
Great post Rod.
Isn't it amazing that when the same nonsense is repeated ad nauseum, how soon it becomes "perceived wisdom", when it's actually nothing of the kind. As Matt himself has said, beautiful figures from just about any era will sell - and I'll buy them, given that its an era that fires my imagination.
I've said elsewhere on this forum that I'm not completely sold on FL's Stalingrad range, and that's my privilege as a paying customer - but that's not to say that I won't buy into it eventually. They're quite simply the best scale miniature figurines from WWII that I've ever seen, but I want to catch up on some of the Napoleonics, get the forthcoming new additions to the Samurai range - and see what's coming next, before I get into the FL vision of WWII. And that's just in case FL bring out something that I'll find to be simply irresistible - including Ancients, although I'm still not sure if I'd go for Romans.
Ho-Hum.

Regards
Harry

Harry,

A lot of people know that I am a HUGE fan of WWII, special Berlin 1945 and the War on the East. But also I like Ancient and Medieval Military History, from the time of Bonze Age to Julius Caesar, I think that there are plenty of potential to be develop in a High Quality of FL Toy Soldiers.

Ps. This Thread has been going very far with many suggestions, and I don’t think that Matt has time to give some attention, I think that he is in somewhere in the border of the Volga trying to figure-out how he will be out of the encirclement of his 6th Army..:eek:

Cheers.
 
The IDF would do well, but Arabs would sell about as good as Rooskies during the Cold War. Nobody's gonna want them.

Tremendously cool stuff on the IDF side though.
 
There are many fine ideas here. While I appreciate the views of those that yearn for more modern wars, I really hope we get more coverage of those wars where the idea of combat was still somewhat personal and not so corrupted with the long range killing capablities of the more modern engaugements. Thus I was hoping more for swords and arrows rather than tanks and machine guns.;):D
 
Interesting poll results and suggestions and it confirms pretty much what I already thought. Everyone wants something different, there isn't any clear favorite amongs treefroggers save perhaps the two categories that are missing (WWII and Napoleonics) and the results of the poll are about as helpful as the raw list without any votes! :D

As such, we'll just make what we want, make it well, and if you guys like it, that will be fantastic. If not, well, at least I'll like it. ;)

Regards,

Matt
First Legion Ltd
 
Interesting poll results and suggestions and it confirms pretty much what I already thought. Everyone wants something different, there isn't any clear favorite amongs treefroggers save perhaps the two categories that are missing (WWII and Napoleonics) and the results of the poll are about as helpful as the raw list without any votes! :D

As such, we'll just make what we want, make it well, and if you guys like it, that will be fantastic. If not, well, at least I'll like it. ;)

Regards,

Matt
First Legion Ltd

While these polls can be a lot of fun, I think we take ourselves far too seriously, and possibly have an overblown image of this forums self-importance, if we think that manufacturers really sit and sweat over the results. Polls such as this one probably do provide some useful feedback to the manufacturers in the sense that they indicate interest in certain eras of history - and maybe they do pay at least some attention to them; how would I know? I do believe that certain of the ranges presently on the market, and one in particular that has just recently been announced, may in fact be due to lobbying on this and other forums, but I think it's more due to personal lobbying of the manufacturer and an appeal to what attracts him into producing that range in particular.
Having said that, at the end of the day, as Matt indicates here, and as toy makers have stated many times before, the manufacturers will go ahead and produce what they like - and much, much, more importantly - what they think will sell in droves.
As has also been stated many times, this forum only represents a proportion of the world-wide collecting community, and it's without a shadow of doubt heavily biased towards one era only - and there's nothing whatsoever wrong with that. However I'd suggest that members here who seem to think that manufacturers are going to jump and pander to our personal preferences every single time we spout, "Give us this, and give us that", are obviously living in some alternative universe where their personal preferences are somehow - important. I tend to doubt that my own preferences for a Mongol range or a Trojan War series will see the light of day anytime soon, but I don't think that I go on and on about it at every given opportunity - and even then, I tend to only mention them in relevant forum threads.
I also truly believe that books and movies play their part in influencing our collecting preferences. Who doesn't like at least some of the scenes in, for example, Waterloo, Last of the Mohicans, Gladiator, SPR, The Patriot, Band of Brothers, The Light Horsemen, El Cid, A Bridge Too Far, Gettysburg, The Seven Samurai, The Longest Day, The Sharpe Series, and so on?
Personally, I'm happy to sit back and enjoy the speculation. And when new ranges and accessories for those new ranges eventually appear, (from anyone), then I'll decide for myself what I'll add to our collection. As I already have decided in one particular case.

All just generalisations and personal opinions of course and no offence intended.
Harry
 
I voted for World War II under 'Other' (no surprise there :D ). There are literally hundreds of WWII vehicles (soft and armored) and weapons that haven't been made in 1/30 scale. Figarti etc have proved that many collectors are keen to add new and or improved WWII models to their collections at around the $200 price point.
 

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